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    • SylverS Desconectado
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      No problem for the thanks, that's what we're here for, man. :sisi:

      I would put the source of the Obione configuration, the Corsair CX500 v2, since it is of quite good quality and solves the problem of the Odin being sold out.
      It's 3 euros more but I doubt that amount will bankrupt you ?

      I had thought that you would skimp a little on graphics, but honestly it wouldn't be profitable for you in the medium term.
      It would be ideal if you waited a little, not too much (if it's not urgent of course) for there to be movements in the prices of the graphics cards, and also in the models, so perhaps you could get a good graphics card (like the 6850 without a doubt) for a significantly reduced price.

      Although at first the configuration is good, and the price is affordable, keep in mind that you are putting together a complete system and it will give you plenty of performance, of course you are not getting a bad team for 600 € more or less.

      Regards

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        neofito88 @Sylver
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        I hadn't thought about the Corsair, I thought it was a motherboard instead of the power supply xDD Well then I think I've already decided, the budget I put above with the Corsair. The last thing (I think xD) can I put the Ixium Tempest window? Is it compatible? Is it worse than the Nox NX 2? Does it have that cool blue neon that you see in the photos? xD Thanks again, sorry if I'm a bit pushy but I don't want to spend the money and then it's a piece of junk xD Thanks for the quick response! :D :D
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        • ObioneO Desconectado
          Obione Veteranos HL @neofito88
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          Forget that box, the NOX is very good for its price, what is a mess (excuse my language) is buying that cooler, to assemble something cheap that they will sell you the one that comes with the processor as standard.

          You shouldn't get the Caviar Black if you're on a tight budget. I mainly tell you this because of the money. It has more warranty but it's noisier and you won't notice the difference with a Seagate Barracuda series 12, a Samsung Spinpoint F3 and even the Caviar Blue.

          PD: Make a last effort and get the 6870 ;D

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            Obione doesn't torture you with the graphics, the 6870 is at 145 € and the same doesn't put a crysis 2 on the team and for WoW and Counter it's more than enough with the 6850 xD

            Nah, it's not a bad idea, but the budget goes mostly to that, the 6850 will be perfect for what you want at first.

            Good the one of the heatsink, I didn't notice, it's true that it's low profile and won't help at all... for that let him keep the one that comes with the system as Obione says.

            Greetings

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            • neofito88N Desconectado
              neofito88 @Obione
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              In case anyone is interested, I just got to the second-to-last step of the purchase on PC components and I'm lucky that it's less what they charge me, a budget of 600 was left at 545 ?

              Getting back to the topic, then Obione left the hard drive as it was at the beginning, the blue one, and removed the Theta cooler, right?

              I think the graphics card is going to cost me a little more, it's a difference of 60 euros, and if I can keep it under 500, all the better, as long as the Source and WoW run just fine, I have more than enough xD

              And the case, well, I'll stick with the Nox one, damn, it's ugly as hell xD

              Mmm, since I'm saving some money on the hard drive and I'm going to remove that Theta, do you recommend me something cheap and effective for cooling? It's that here in the Canary Islands it's very hot and I don't want my PC to melt ?

              Graaaaaacias for answering both!! ?

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              • SylverS Desconectado
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                Man, I wouldn't put anything less than a Scythe Ninja 3 on that i5, it's 36.95€ but the result is very good cooling.

                The Arctic Cooling Xtreme Rev.2 for 29.95€ isn't bad either...
                The thing is to put a big Noctua on it, like the Noctua NH-U12P or the NH-U12P but that goes to 60€ and you're not going to push it that hard.

                I would put the Ninja on it and that's it, it's a good heatsink for the use you'll give it.

                Regards

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                >> Athlon 64 X2 5600+ Brisbane @2.9GHz || Gigabyte GA-M61PME-S2 || 2x2Gb DDR2 Kingston 800MHz || Sapphire Radeon HD 5850 Xtreme 1Gb || Maxtor 320Gb SATA2 || OCZ ModXStream 500W Modular || TEAC PowerMax 120/2 || Acer X243w 24"
                >> Intel Core2Duo E6600 Conroe @2.4GHz || Asus P5N32-SLI SE DELUXE || 2x1Gb DDR2 Kingston 800MHz || Asus nVidia GeForce 9800GT 1Gb GDDR3 || Seagate Barracuda IDE 80Gb 7200RPM || Linkworld LPK12-35 450W

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                • ObioneO Desconectado
                  Obione Veteranos HL @neofito88
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                  It's not that ugly either :risitas: Get a Cooler Master Elite if that and don't worry about micro temperatures, the Sandys are very cool. If you care about noise then yes you can change, by the way you will be able to expel the air out of the box faster by facing the flow to the extraction fan. If you want something cheap, a Hyper TX3, if you want something decent some Scythe as Sylver tells you.

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                    neofito88 @Obione
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                    Sylver is already eating up a lot of my budget with those heatsinks, so I'll stick with the cheaper one that says Obione, the tx3, which was originally my plan to spend 400, then I went to 500 and now I'm up to a whopping 600 xDD

                    Obione, in my opinion, the Nox is a luxury for the eyes compared to those Cooler Master Elite xDD

                    Well, to conclude, give me the go-ahead for this order so I can rest easy, here it goes!:

                    Custom budget. PcComponentes.com

                    My sincerest thanks to the 2 of you, you make my shopping easier! ?

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                    • SylverS Desconectado
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                      @neofito88:

                      Sylver is already eating up a lot of my budget with those heatsinks, so I'll stick with the cheaper one that Obione mentioned, the tx3, which was originally my plan to spend 400, then I went to 500 and now I'm up to a whopping 600 xDD

                      Well, it's a complete system and better than what you'll usually find around for that price, you should also take that into account ?

                      Well, the budget has my approval. If Obione sees fit to recommend any modifications, since he has more experience and knowledge than I do, then :rollani:

                      Best regards

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                      • ObioneO Desconectado
                        Obione Veteranos HL @Sylver
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                        But no, the only thing I want to comment is that the SE has fewer connectors, none of them conventional PCI but it does have another PCIe x16@x4 that the Pro3 doesn't. It's not that it's worse, it's just different. Traditional PCI is less common and that's going to continue to be the trend, in fact this chipset needs a communication chip with these slots but well, if you don't have a PCI controller that you need to plug in, you can get the SE.

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                          ferelxyx Veteranos HL @Sylver
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                          put this box :NOX NX-1EVO - 34 euros

                          a fan for the front : NOX Knik 120x120 - 4,75 euros

                          this disk :Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB SATA3 MAESTRO - 51 euros

                          this heatsink : Cooler Master Hyper TX3 CPU Cooler - 16,75 euros

                          this power supply : NOX NX Series 620W - 47 euros

                          and this memory : G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3 1600 PC3-12800 4GB 2x2GB CL9 - 28 euros

                          regarding the sound, the motherboard already has it and it works quite well

                          regards

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                            The NX2 is not bad, it can mount a cooler than the 1, the day it gets a decent graphics card it will be able to plug in 2 decent fans, for example a Slip Stream 1200 behind (it's the minimum I would get, much better than that NOX, the thing is that it's bare of budget), a Gentle Typhoon 1450 above, and put the rear fan in the front that is silent and doesn't give much flow, in the front it wouldn't have much impact with that restriction, cooling disks and little more. Another option would be to put the case fan on the side to keep the graphics card cooler.

                            If it is clear that it will never mount a graphics card, with the NX1 it is served.

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                              Nemo Veteranos HL @Obione
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                              Well, after the mess I've seen in Pccomponentes' builds, I trust them very little when it comes to assembling it (I still remember that heatsink separated from the processor by a centimeter).
                              Here you have a couple of already assembled options and similar characteristics to the ones they recommend:
                              LEVEL PC I5-2300 GAMER PURE BLACK - 539€
                              LEVEL PC I5-2400 PRO GAMER ADVANCED -650€
                              In both cases the case is great, for here you will find a review that the companion Tecnho made.
                              And the 2400 includes the 6870 which is very good and the store is totally trustworthy.
                              Best regards

                              Mis equipos

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                                Sylver Veteranos HL @Nemo
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                                @Nemo:

                                And the 2400 includes the 6870 which is very good and the store is totally trustworthy.
                                Best regards

                                That's the problem he has, that the budget was going to be more or less like that with the 6870 at pccomponentes, and he can't stretch it more, if he has ended up skimping on the hard drive and the heatsink...

                                The truth is that those computers you propose are very good, the one at 539 € I think would be perfect for him, it's similar to the one he was planning to buy.

                                Regards

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                                >> Athlon 64 X2 5600+ Brisbane @2.9GHz || Gigabyte GA-M61PME-S2 || 2x2Gb DDR2 Kingston 800MHz || Sapphire Radeon HD 5850 Xtreme 1Gb || Maxtor 320Gb SATA2 || OCZ ModXStream 500W Modular || TEAC PowerMax 120/2 || Acer X243w 24"
                                >> Intel Core2Duo E6600 Conroe @2.4GHz || Asus P5N32-SLI SE DELUXE || 2x1Gb DDR2 Kingston 800MHz || Asus nVidia GeForce 9800GT 1Gb GDDR3 || Seagate Barracuda IDE 80Gb 7200RPM || Linkworld LPK12-35 450W

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                                  Obione Veteranos HL @Sylver
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                                  Vaya que sí, está guay el 2300.

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                                    Ya os digo yo que con ese equipo tiene todo un pepino para el WoW, no va a echar en falta rendimiento.

                                    Respecto al micro aqui teneis una gráfica de ejemplo que demuestra que en ese juego es mejor Intel que AMD y que 4 nucleos aportan muy poco respecto a 2:

                                    Además dicen que tira mas de micro que de gráfica. No se, yo con mi i3-2100 y la Radeon HD5670 juego muy bien, pero va a ir mas suelto sin duda con la HD6850. Del CS:Source ni idea :p.

                                    Aviso: Como pongas las sombras al máximo no hay ordenador que lo maneje perfecto, pero ya las tengo cerca del mínimo y lucen bien.

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                                      Un colega se ha quedado sin gráfica y como estaba en una LAN Party se pilló la 5670 para el WoW. Tiene un E8400 que no está nada mal pero, no lo mueve a tope. Servir sirve, desde luego, no obstante si se pilla algo que sea con vistas de futuro, ese levelPC de 500 y pico pavos le vendrá de maravilla.

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                                        @Obione:

                                        Un colega se ha quedado sin gráfica y como estaba en una LAN Party se pilló la 5670 para el WoW. Tiene un E8400 que no está nada mal pero, no lo mueve a tope. Servir sirve, desde luego, no obstante si se pilla algo que sea con vistas de futuro, ese levelPC de 500 y pico pavos le vendrá de maravilla.

                                        +1

                                        Saludos

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                                        >> Athlon 64 X2 5600+ Brisbane @2.9GHz || Gigabyte GA-M61PME-S2 || 2x2Gb DDR2 Kingston 800MHz || Sapphire Radeon HD 5850 Xtreme 1Gb || Maxtor 320Gb SATA2 || OCZ ModXStream 500W Modular || TEAC PowerMax 120/2 || Acer X243w 24"
                                        >> Intel Core2Duo E6600 Conroe @2.4GHz || Asus P5N32-SLI SE DELUXE || 2x1Gb DDR2 Kingston 800MHz || Asus nVidia GeForce 9800GT 1Gb GDDR3 || Seagate Barracuda IDE 80Gb 7200RPM || Linkworld LPK12-35 450W

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                                          Sí, sin duda. Quizás no me expliqué bien, ya que si, juego muy bien, pero sacrifico algunos detalles como sombras o distancia de visión. Está claro que la que comentais le dará ese extra para sentir que todo va perfecto. Además no se como es ese monitor de 7 años, pero con un ordenador así yo ya iría poniendo el ojo a algo de 22 a 24" y full HD, que en el WoW se nota un huevazo para dejar el interfaz guapo y no quedarte sin espacio.

                                          De todos modos aviso, con las sombras al máximo nadie lo mueve a tope.

                                          Edito: Otra demostración mas del tema de los nucleos

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                                            Bueno antes que nada agradecer las nuevas aportaciones y maldeciros por haberme trastocado todos los planes ahora que lo tenia casi todo claro ya xDD

                                            Vamos por partes:

                                            • Obione no tengo conocimientos de estos temas asi que no he entendido nada de lo que me has dicho sobre la placa, el pci ese tradicional me haria falta para algo?

                                            • Nemo muchisimas gracias por los presupuestos y a ti Yorus por los graficos, eres un viciadillo eee? xD
                                              Por cierto mi pantalla vieja es una Philips 170S5, no os riais xD, ya en unos meses me pillare alguna pantallita de las nuevas, pero eso si baratita xD

                                            Despues de leeros y ver como todos estabais de acuerdo en que deberia pillarme este LEVEL PC I5-2300 GAMER PURE BLACK pues me he registrado en la pagina, he ido avanzando pasos en la compra para ver si me rebajaban algo del iva y mi sorpresa ha sido al llegar al ultimo paso y desgraciadamente observar que NO me lo envian a canarias, no me sale ningun distribuidor disponible. (He cambiado mi provincia por si acaso fuera un error de la web y funciona perfectamente con otras pero con Las Palmas de Gran Canaria no, jodienda!)

                                            Entonces volvemos al principio, ¿que hago? xD

                                            Podria hacerme esta configuracion de level pc pero en pc componentes?
                                            Me quedo con la que tenia? Algun cambio? http://www.pccomponentes.com/presupuesto.php?print=si&procesador=41960&placa=44041&ventilador=37143&memoria=36443&disco=41068&disco2=0&torre=38686&fuentes=44506&tgrafica=45486&tsonido=0&frontal=0&lector=44995&grabadora=0&monitor=0&teclado=0&raton=0&altavoces=0&so=0&montado=true&instal_so=false&sintonizadora=0&adaptador_red=0

                                            Espero ansioso vuestras respuestas, que dificil es esto de comprarse un ordenador, a este paso me pego un mes para comprarlo xDD

                                            MUCHISIMAS GRACIAS POR VUESTROS APORTES! OS QUIERO! xD :risitas:

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