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    • Bm4nB Desconectado
      Bm4n @Obione
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      A pair of B&O Beolabs is what you need, without a doubt.

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        The M-Audio look really good, without a doubt, and the BeoLab that Bm4n suggests are cool, to be honest. But I must clarify that this entire thread is to rescue those Creative speakers that I received for free, just to make good use of them and not throw them away, obviously I already have speakers in good condition:risitas: specifically all these:

        WOXTER BIG BASS 260 Multimedia Audio Speakers

        Logitech LS21 2.1 980-000056 Speakers

        Teac PowerMax 120, 2x 120 Watt pmpo Multimedia Speakers | eBay (xD)

        But thank you very much for your suggestions :sisi: The truth is that when I have money and move to a larger place, the M-Audio would be a curiously necessary investment, since I would be spending most of my free time producing music.

        Best regards!

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          I was saying it ironically, they cost 1000 bucks, it was the most expensive thing I could think of. Like Ferel told you, buy an amp board at an electronics store or you can also plug it into any old sub you have lying around if not second hand. And for 50€ you can buy some normal speakers.

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            @Bm4n:

            I was saying it ironically, they cost 1000 bucks, it was the most expensive thing I could think of. Like Ferel told you, buy an amp board at an electronics store or you can also plug it into any old sub you have lying around if not second-hand. And for 50€ you can buy some normal speakers.

            Well, I'm just glad I didn't need them, what a laugh the price :lol:lol:
            Well yes, I'm about to do that or else for my friend's radio xD but that still seems like a waste to me, first I'll exhaust the amp way, see if I could get something around or in some small store, I have to look, but if I get it I'll feel pretty good, I've been trying to do experiments with speakers for quite some time but I've never developed them well…
            I have a 15" speaker in the storage room, and I want to turn it into a subwoofer that blows, for which I need a low-pass filter apart from an amp in good condition, that's my next goal if I can get this pair going... xD

            Thanks a lot for the advice guys, bye ?

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              If the board can't cut it using the sub output, you'll need 2 filters, or what's the same, an "integer" crossover. Then you take 2 line signals to each amp.

              15" is a beast jejeje How many watts does that ask for?

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                I read something about the whole crossover, I searched a lot on forums and such but the part of "designing your own low-pass filter" kind of got away from me... xD

                Well yes, it's a curious beast ? and to be honest, I have no idea how much it asks for, because I rescued it from a disassembled baffle in a polygon, but by eye it must ask for 200W or more on the low side :risitas:

                This may one day be part of an album of threads on HL titled "Sylver's Experiments, nightmare level", with most frustrated or developed with luck within a decade... xDD

                Saludos!

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                • ObioneO Desconectado
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                  It's that a Crossover for a sub separates highs in stereo and lows in mono, at the same frequency. If you don't do it this way it's a mess and as you can understand it's not that simple. It's that it's not even worth setting one up if it's for a cheap system, even less so when the baffle is passive. If it were an active sub though...

                  Look it's a little gadget like this:

                  THE BOX HPF1 - Thomann Cyberstore Español

                  The connections are 3-pin XLR and you really only need 2 but well, the idea is the same and it could also be used with XLR-TS/TRS cables (1/8" - minijack). If it's passive it's better.

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                    Well yes, the truth is that I see it as viable. It's not too expensive either, although the issue is that I should splice the cables with XLR.
                    Thanks for looking for the gadget Obione, I'm quite likely to get it if I get some money for Christmas.
                    If both the sub and the pair of Creative speakers go ahead, I'll leave you here the test ?

                    Best regards!

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                      But they are 20€ for shipping, for a cheap equipment it would hurt me. You could go to a specialized audio or car hi-fi store that sometimes have cheap gadgets, even some electronics.

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                        Yes, I was thinking about it a while ago when a colleague bought a microphone and three more stories from Thomann and raised the price to 80 euros…
                        I'm looking for electronics shops in my area, but either I go out little here or I'm disoriented, because I can't find any, this is already my problem for not coming to my house much xD
                        A couple of days ago, I missed two subwoofers that were donated on hard2mano, I pulled my hair... :nono:
                        Do you think I'll find loose parts in a car hi-fi store? I have the impression that I will only find monstrosities to burst trunks... ?

                        Regards

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                          Sylver,

                          ¿tienes amplicador para ese bicho? Lo digo porque si necesitas amplificador puedes pillar uno de coche decente (80-100€) que permiten puentear las salidas (para obtener 1 sola para el sub en mono) y además tienen un filtro en el que puedes graduar el corte (normalmente entre 60-150 Hz ).

                          Por otra parte comentarte, que si el altavoz no es un sub no vas a obtener muy buenos resultados con el… un altavoz diseñado especificamente para sub genera una cantidad brutal de presión de aire que en un altavoz normal produciría muchísima distorsión.

                          Saludos y suerte!!

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                            Buenas faliqui 🙂

                            No, no tengo todavía amplificador, la verdad esque no había pensado en ponerle uno de coche, se me pasó la idea de comprar un bombo + etapa aparte, pero no la de aprovecharlo para eso.

                            Creo que es específicamente un sub, porque tiene una membrana sintética muuuuy extensa y flexible, vamos, idéntico a un subwoofer normal de un 2.1 o 5.1 pero de tamaño industrial 😄
                            Por eso lo tengo ahí almacenado a la espera de aprovecharlo, y también tengo que cambiar los altavoces traseros del coche que han reventado al cumplir los 10 años… :nono:

                            Muchas gracias por la recomendación faliqui, preguntaré por tiendas de audio para coches llevando el bicho a cuestas aver si tengo suerte 😛

                            ¡Saludos! 🙂

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