What do you think about this team for 1,000€?

[kachalot]

Here is the link to the PC I built.

This PC is missing (what I need):

• a printer for about 100€ I don't know which one to get, I'm looking for an all-in-one.
• Good wired keyboard and mouse

I already have a DVD burner.

Link to the PC:

Custom budget. PcComponentes.com

This PC is an attempt to compete with an iMac, the one with i5 2.5Ghz 4 Gb RAM 500 TB.

Modifications and advice are welcome.

Thanks for your time.
Best regards!!

[ferelxyx]

you have several components that are not the right ones
WD Caviar Green 1TB SATA3 64MB
Cooler Master GX Lite 700W
and you do not put a graphics card

I would put:
ASRock Z77 Extreme4 -146 euros
Intel Core i5-3570 3.4Ghz Box Socket 1155 - 203 euros
G.Skill Ripjaws X DDR3 1600 PC3-12800 16GB 2x8GB CL9 - 92 euros
Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 2TB SATA3 64MB - 100 euros
Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 Dual-X 2GB GDDR5 - 193 euros or at least this: Sapphire Radeon HD 7770 1GB GDDR5 - 116 euros
Corsair TX650 V2 650W - 92

Logitech Illuminated Keyboard - 56 euros
Cooler Master CM Storm Inferno - 38 euros

if you want to compete with the iMac buy an IPS screen
EG: if it's for gaming - Asus VG23AH 23" LED IPS 3D 282 euros - if it's for work: Dell UltraSharp U2412M LED 24" IPS 269 euros

the rest of what you put, well, it's okay

PD: the recorder if it's EIDE it won't work for you, they no longer have those ports on the boards

regards

[Obione]

The Extreme4 would be for mounting a K, the disk for just over 2 TB and the 7850 without OC for 175€ is the same thing. As an alternative to the TX, the ZS of 650 for a graphic card, 750 if you are looking for CrossfireX. As for RAM, I would get 2x8 rather than 4x4 but maybe 8 is fine.

What do you want the computer for?

For a monitor I would rather get the Ultrasharp of 23.

[amd125]

I think like my colleagues. RAM if you can better 2 modules of 8 Gigas. Motherboard a decent one if you mount a K, if not one of less than 100€ you have enough and you save money.

The graphics the Ati 7850 seems like a good choice and the source with one of 600W quality you have enough for a single graphics card.

Regarding this comment: This PC is an attempt to compete with an iMac, the one with i5 2.5Ghz 4 Gb RAM 500 TB.

The PC you are going to build is much superior and more if you mount a K micro and overclock it.

[ferelxyx]

@Obione:

The Extreme4 would be for mounting a K, the disk for just over 2 TB and the 7850 without OC for 175€ is the same. As an alternative to the TX, the ZS of 650 for a graphic, 750 if you are looking for CrossfireX. As for RAM, I would get 2x8 before 4x4 but maybe 8 is fine.

What do you want the computer for?

For a monitor I would rather get the Ultrasharp of 23.

that one is 1GB of memory

regards

[kachalot]

I would like it for a bit of everything then. For home utilities, for office, for visual studio.NET, to have a computer that lasts a long time and I don't know if I would play, but if it's worth it then yes.

Thanks to everyone, and especially Obione, Ferelxyx, adm125.

Trying many combinations all approach the initial price of an iMac, which one do you think is worth more for what I'm looking for a good PC or an iMac of no more than 1,300€?
it's that mate, any half-decent PC that I look at with screen, mouse, printer immediately goes up to 1,200€. And if I'm not mistaken an iMac is more reliable, powerful and with better performance, but perhaps more specific and less versatile than a PC….buuuuffff.... I'm in a sea of doubts....

[kachalot]

I think I have it clear already... a PC, not an iMac!!
Among the reasons, my budget is 1,300€ and with that I will buy the most basic one.

Now being a tough guy... and I apologize for it... can you help me build a PC with 1,300€??

my idea is to have:

• a 27 inch screen, if possible.
• an all-in-one printer
• a mid-range motherboard. I don't know what is better if with integrated graphics or without. but I would like to have wifi.
• depending on the motherboard a good graphics card, not the best.
• keyboard
• mouse
• and a CD burner because the one I have is IDE.
• sound card I don't know... I suppose yes.
• speakers... I suppose also.

thanks a lot and sorry!!

Thanks again to everyone for your time.

[kachalot]

cachisss!!

I forgot, the processing I would like an i5 at least, but there are so many and I have no idea…

graciasss.

[kachalot]

siiii soy pesado, lo siento, pero es que es muy complicado… y no me aclaro

y una torre/caja... son muy extramboticas alguna... una sencilla y util, con salida para USB 3.0 en la frontal, no? esa seria útil?

y ventilador... pues... no sé

... vamos que no me entero... vaya tela que pesado... perdonarme de veras...

pero es que tela... y luego la pantalla... vale la pena tener 3D?

gracias con la mayor sinceridad!!

[Obione]

@ferelxyx:

that's 1GB of memory

regards

Haha, I just realized :ugly:

[Obione]

@kachalot:

Creo que ya lo tengo claro… un PC, fuera iMac!!
Entre los motivos, mi presupuesto es de 1.300€ y con eso pues me compro el más pelado.

Ahora siendo un cara dura... y os pido perdón por ello... me ayudais a montar un PC con 1.300€???

mi idea es tener:

• pantalla de 27, si puede ser.
• una impresora multifunción
• una placa base media-alta. no sé que es mejor si con grafica integrada o sin. pero si me gustaría tener wifi.
• dependiendo de la placa una tarjeta grafica buena, no la mejor.
• teclado
• ratón
• y grabadora de CD por que la que tengo es IDE.
• tarjeta de sonido no sé... supongo que sí.
• altavoces... supongo que también.

gracias muchas gracias y perdón!!

De nuevo gracias a todos por vuestro tiempo.

El Ultrasharp de 27" es UNA GOZAZA. Pregúntale a Tecnho :ugly: No es barato pero si quieres algo similar a un iMac, no puedes descuidar el monitor jejeje. Lo malo es que necesita una buena gráfica para moverlo con juegos. Si no vas a jugar de momento, tira con la integrada y ya la comprarás más adelante. Si la quieres ya, para un monitor de 27" con una resolución por encima del FullHD (como la del iMac) lo suyo es una tarjeta decente de 2GB como la 7850 que te comentaba ferelxyx. Si le vas a dar un poco de caña a juegos de última generación tampoco estaría de más estirarte a por una 7870, creo que está a 229€.

Editing: ¿Qué calidad de altavoces buscas más o menos? Para montar unos barateros no hace falta una dedicada. Tienes unos Edifier en Amazon.es que están muy bien, 2.1 por 130€ o poco más. Con esos ya merece la pena alguna Asus, que las hay económicas y mejoran la integrada.

Si quieres envolvente y algo de calidad la cosa ya sale más cara…

Por aquí los Edifier en blanco y en negro, y una tarjeta Asus:

Edifier S330D,106 mm,72 W,55 - 20000 Hz,85 Db,10 %,Con cables - Amazon.es: Edifier
Edifier S330 D2.1 Black - Altavoz PC (importado de Alemania): Amazon.es: Electrónica
Asus DX/XD, 63 pavetes en pccomponentes

Si apuntas a algo más alto tienes la Asus STX (sólo estéreo) por 160 y pico euros, luego en Thomann.de tienen unos monitores de estudio Alesis por 300€ que suenan muy pero que muy bien.

Editing2: Supongo que esos 1300€ son para todo… Me he pasado un poco :ffu:

1300 (+45 de montaje y envío) sin bafles pero, con tarjeta de sonido. Con monitor de 23" y tarjeta gráfica

[kachalot]

Many thanks Obione!! Many thanks for your time and advice.

yes, 1,300€ (I can't go over 1,400) is what I have for a complete PC, and complete is including up to the printer…. yes, I think I'm going too far in looking for too much quality... and maybe I should lower the bar... playing with the PC is the least important thing, I'm not saying that sometimes, but I don't think I have the PS3 as I have.
The thing is that since I'm going to spend that, of course, I wanted to get something powerful, but maybe I'm going too far, I don't know... I'm missing things. How....:

• I don't know which i5 is better or if for a little more it's worth an i7.
• whether to get a motherboard with integrated graphics card or not.
• RAM 8 or 16...
• monitor one good 27 or one inferior 27, or one good 23'' or one normal 27...

there are many things that I thought with that budget I would arrive...

[kachalot]

Let me know what you think of this PC:

Processor: INTEL CORE I5-3570 3.4GHZ BOX SOCKET 1155 —> 203€
***Is this a good one?

Motherboard:???

RAM: G.SKILL RIPJAWS X DDR3 1600 PC3-12800 16GB 2X8GB CL9 —> 92€

FAN: COOLER MASTER HYPER 412S CPU COOLER —> 33€
***or this CORSAIR COOLING HYDRO SERIES H40 —> 63€?

Hard Drive: SEAGATE BARRACUDA 7200.14 1TB SATA3 —> 75.95€
***I put this hard drive because I have an external one of 1.5T

Case/Tower: NZXT H2 CLASSIC SERIES NEGRA —> 93€

Power Supply: CORSAIR CX600 V2 600W BUILDER SERIES —> 68€
***or this other Corsair TX650 V2 650W —> 92?

Graphics Card: SAPPHIRE RADEON HD 7850 OC 2GB GDDR5 —> 199€
***or the one you say Obione Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 Dual-X 1GB GDDR5 —> 175€?
***or another... cheaper one that does that function... or not sure??

DVD Writer: ASUS DRW-24B5ST DVD WRITER 24X RETAIL —> 21€
***or the one you say Obione Plextor PX-891SA DVD WRITER 24X —> 30€?

Monitor: DELL ULTRASHARP U2412M LED 24" IPS —> 269€
***or one of 27'' from the ones on the web for a price similar to that?

The budget:

Custom budget. PcComponentes.com

What motherboard with integrated audio and without graphics can I put for this PC?
Is everything compatible?
Would you change any component, whatever it is of the ones I put?

and the speakers?
I would be satisfied with medium quality ones for the motherboard, any advice?

I would still need a multifunction printer, keyboard and mouse, but that, don't worry, I'm already taking advantage enough...

Many thanks for everything and especially for your time.

[Obione]

i5 3470 + Hyper 412S or 212 EVO (noisier and less comfortable to adjust but RPM relaxed is very similar) + ASRock B75 Pro3 + 2x4GB DDR3 1333 Corsair Value + Crucial M4 128GB + Seagate 720.14 2TB + Ultrasharp 23" + NOX NX-2 + Antec VP 550 + Sapphire 7770

Let's see how it looks with the Edifier and a printer. Honestly, you don't need more. If I've been very short, get the Corsair (too bad they don't have the ZS 650, it was the best option as a middle term) and the H2 which has VERY comfortable filters and is silent but a bit plasticky, or a CM-690 II Lite which is very good (less silent but cheaper, a pretty nice case to be honest). A good power supply and a good case are appreciated and will last you a long time, the TX has a 5 year warranty but I tell you, it wouldn't be a sin the other 2 economic options I gave you.

PD: If you're going to put important data, get 2 disks and set up a RAID 1. If there's still budget, you can go for an Asus H77 for just over 100€ but I tell you the same as with the power supply and the case.

[ferelxyx]

something like this would suit you

Epson Stylus Office BX320FW Multifunción Fax WiFi+Red - 77 euros

regards

[Obione]

A great team :sisi:

Another option a bit more expensive with RAID 1 and less video card or RAM (in my opinion enough) but better monitor and sound:

Custom budget. PcComponentes.com

• the 2.1 Edifier from Amazon.

[kachalot]

Wow!!! You are great!!!
You are doing so well Obione and Ferelxyx, I really appreciate it!!

With all your ideas and proposals I am learning a lot and appreciating alternatives that I had not thought of, perhaps I think too much, since you are going to kill me!! Not for this post, with the next one… I am preparing two computer proposals so that you can give me your most sincere opinion. And I will start to decide and close the topic and buy the computer, which will probably be from pccomponentes and that they will send it to my house.

I really feel bad for making you so dizzy, the positive thing is, apart from my own benefit, is that I hope that another person who is like me will find this useful.

Thanks and see you in a while!!

[kachalot]

Bueno… Ya estoy aquí de nuevo...

A ver que os parecen estás dos configuraciones.

Previamente comentar que dispongo de un disco externo usb de 1.5T, por eso no cojo mucho en disco duro.

La configuración 1 está basada en poner un i7 con una potente placa base y utilizar la gráfica integrada. 1324.20€

La configuración 2 está basada en un i5 con un placa más baja y así añadir tarjeta gráfica. 1331.65 €

A las 2 les falta impresora.

Configuración 1.

Presupuesto a medida. PcComponentes.com

Está configuración no hay ventilador porque en la Caja/torre (siguiendo consejos de Obione) dice que viene con dos ventiladores y he supuesto que no haría falta poner otro. ¿o es mejor poner?

La otra placa que barajo es: ASUS P8Z77-V DELUXE –> 246€
Pero son 40€ más y ya me paso de presupuesto.

Como me paso de presupuesto, he pensado en poner alguna opciones para rebajar:

fuente --> CORSAIR TX650 V2 650W --> 92

torre --> NZXT PHANTOM 410 NEGRA --> 92
estás Caja/Torres, ¿quedan muy bastas a la vista?

Configuración 2.

Presupuesto a medida. PcComponentes.com

Está configuración sí lleva ventilador.

diferencias respecto a configuración 1 sincontar procesador ni placa:

Conf. 1–-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Conf. 2

RAM
G.Skill Ripjaws X DDR3 1600 PC3-12800 16GB 2x8GB CL9---------------------------G.Skill Ripjaws X DDR3 1333 PC3-10666 16GB 2x8GB CL9

Fuente
Corsair TX650M 650W Modular-----------------------------------------------------------Corsair TX650M 650W

Raton
Logitech LS1 Láser Mouse-----------------------------------------------------------------Microsoft Notebook Optical Mouse 3000

Impresora.

Epson-STYLUS-SX235W
Epson STYLUS SX235W - Impresora multifunciónal (Impresora / copiadora / escáner) - Amazon.es: Epson

Epson Stylus SX435W
Epson Stylus SX435W dispositivo multifunción (WiFi, impresora, copiadora y escáner): Amazon.es: Electrónica

DUDAS por componentes.

Procesador: no sé cual sería mejor, no me importa.

Placa base: Tengo miedo a coger una y luego no poder ampliar a RAM superior de 1600

RAM: no sé si coger 8 o 16. // no sé si coger de 1333 o 1600

Disco: como tengo el externo de 1.5T, pues no creo que me haga falta más. o si?

Caja: Entre esas dos NZXT Phantom Negra o NZXT Phantom 410 Negra, o hay mejor por ese precio?

Fuente: 650w estaría o más?

T. Gráfica: Cojo, no cojo. En caso de coger esa o con 1G irían bien la configuración?

Grabadora DVD: esa o la plextor?

Monitor: quiero uno de 24'', el dell está bien o hay parecidos en calidad por un menor precio?

Teclado: no lo busco para jugar, busco que sea cómodo y bueno.ese me gusta ese, pero alguno parecido con menor precio? lo de iluminado me daría igual.

Ratón: supongo que uno de esos dos, no lo busco para jugar, busco que sea cómodo y bueno.

Altavoces: He mirado los 2.1 Edifier de Amazon. pero son muy caros, no? o los he mirado mal?
yo a parte del que he puesto había mirado:

Logitech Z323 Sistema de altavoces 2.1 estéreo: Amazon.es: Electrónica

Logitech LS21 Altavoces 2.1 para PC: Amazon.es: Electrónica

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Por favor, espero vuestro consejo (de Obione, Ferelxyx y de todo el que quiera aportar) y no dudéis en cambiar cualquier componente, según creáis oportuno.

Todo esto es porque necesito ajustarme a 1.300€ más sería excesivo para mí.

Espero de aquí sacar la conclusión final y no dar más la vara… pediros disculpas por ser tan pesado y agradecer todo, sobretodo por vuestro tiempo.

Muchísimas gracias!!!

[Sylver]

Hello

I would make a hybrid between both configurations and change the motherboard.
An i5 3570 + ASRock Z77 Extreme4, with the memory you prefer, you won't notice much difference.
If you have a 1.5Tb disk, I would save the new one and put that graphics card (7850). The rest seems fine to me.

PD: Those speakers, both a pair and the other, are very little. They sound good, but don't expect great power.

Regards

[kachalot]

Thanks Sylver for your reply!

And regarding the 2 configurations I have put and the doubts, can someone advise me?

thanks!!