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    • FranziskanerF Desconectado
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      Almost certainly DFI has some
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        Now I have the PC like this with everything auto except the bus which I have set from 333 to 400Mhz

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        I did a test with the SP2004 for half an hour and everything is ok... the multiplier is at x6 when the micro works it goes to x8...

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          The truth is that 3.1-3.2Ghz is usually the limit that these micros reach without touching vcore (then, depending on the vid / motherboard used, it varies a bit), so I think you have already met your expectations, right?

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          • FranziskanerF Desconectado
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            @Franziskaner:

            Almost certainly DFI has some
            Regards

            it seems that we already have the first bitter of the year, who does not like my answers :troll::troll::troll:
            I take for granted that if asus has the V Turbo and Gigabyte has the OC guru … DFI will have his
            DFI, IPC, Industrial Computer, Embedded Computer,Mini-ITX,microATX,ATX,Automation, Industrial Motherboard, Digital Signage,COM Express, DFI, Application
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              Well, if I have to leave it for 4 hours with a test and see what... what surprises me is the issue with the DRAM - 480Mhz and the FSB: DRAM 5:6... I think there is an option in the P.B that can set the memory to 1066/400 which would be logical I think and not go from 333 to 400Mhz all at once

              Back in the day, I had messed around with a mobile athlon but with intel, I'm not very clear on how it works...

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                @krampak:

                The truth is that 3.1-3.2Ghz is usually the limit that these micros reach without touching vcore (then, depending on the vid / motherboard used, it varies a bit), so I think you have already met your expectations, right?

                +1

                regards

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                  I see in the screenshot that you have the memory in single channel, how do you have the modules plugged in? Check the manual to see how to place them to activate dual channel (assuming you only have the 2 modules you put in the first post), it's usually by color.

                  What I find strange is the DRAM issue - 480Mhz and the FSB: DRAM 5:6… I think there's an option in the P.B that can set the memory to 1066/400 which would be logical I think and not go from 333 to 400Mhz all at once.

                  You don't have a problem with memory up to 533Mhz, as it's DDR2 1066. As for the FSB, if it's stable at 3.2Ghz, there's no other option but to leave those 400Mhz FSB since you have the multiplier locked, if you want to go up more slowly then see if you can increase the bus by 1 in some place, I haven't touched a DFI in ages.

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                    If you are right, they are placed in the first two sockets, a memory bank was messed up a while ago and I left it like that, before it had 6Gb, this week I suppose I will receive two more modules and I will put 2Gbx4 and they are also bringing me the Sound Blaster Z, let's see how that goes...

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                      @Franziskaner:

                      it seems that we already have the first bitter person of the year, who doesn't like my answers :troll::troll::troll:
                      i take it for granted that if asus has the V Turbo and Gigabyte has the OC guru … DFI will have its own
                      DFI, IPC, Industrial Computer, Embedded Computer,Mini-ITX,microATX,ATX,Automation, Industrial Motherboard, Digital Signage,COM Express, DFI, Application
                      regards

                      Off Topic last of this thread.
                      Without going into whether the answer voted negative is useful or not or whether the person who voted negative is right or not in doing so, Hardlimit is crying from home, because just as when someone votes positive for you, you don't come to comment on it and thank you publicly, when someone votes negative for you, you shouldn't do it either, and much less call anyone a bitter person for doing it.

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                        One last question, I want to put a probe on the micro i so as not to disassemble the heatsink and the chip. I thought about putting the probe on the plate that connects the micro to the heatsink… I suppose that the values I will obtain will be similar, right?

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                          If I have understood you correctly, you want to put it between the base of the heatsink and the IHS of the micro? It seems like a crazy idea to me, it will raise the temperature if the bases are not in complete contact. Doesn't the sensor that the processor itself has integrated work for you?

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                            I don't know if I understood that you want to put the probe on the edge of the IHS or on the plate of the socket that holds the CPU because otherwise to do that I would have to disassemble the heatsink, right?

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                              The metal plate that holds the micro doesn't make sense, it doesn't get hot, or at least not nearly as hot as the micro. If by plate you mean the IHS the only reasonable place would be the side as you say, but it's not easy to get it to stay there and you have to cut the plastic of the probe so that it touches directly.

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                                this is how it was done before

                                as of today, you have to check if the heatsink covers the IHS completely; if not, as in my case (a triton 88 on an AMD phenom 9955), you mount it on top of the IHS without touching the heatsink (to avoid having to disassemble it if you remove the heatsink)
                                if I find the photos from when I did the assembly, I'll upload them; otherwise…
                                best regards

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                                  Back in the day, the athlon xp mobile had the probe placed this way, but now with the Q9450, I can't put it that way because the top part is all smooth. The solution would be to put it under the chip or stick it to the side of the chip and see how it goes... when I have thermal paste, I'll clean the disipator and put new paste on it because the PC is 5 years old and it's time...

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                                    according to these pages
                                    Xigmatek HDT-S1283 Review
                                    http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGA_775
                                    inches to cm, cm to inches calculator
                                    i have come to a couple of conclusions
                                    the heatsink uses :

                                    • 3 high-performance heat-pipes of 8mm
                                      plus about 2 mm of aluminum between tubes 24+ ( 83) = 32mm +/- 2mm
                                      if according to the wiki a 775 measures 1.471.47 which in mm would be 3737mm
                                      you should have about 37-32=5/2=2.5mm per side
                                      if we take into account this photo

                                      and that the probe cables that i have mounted are 1.5mm (presumably standard measurement) the probe must measure its good 3/4 mm wide considering that the sensor is in the center it would be 2mm and as i said before you must have 2.5mm per side ….. well you have enough space to put the probe in the upper part of the IHS without stepping on it with the heatsink
                                      i have balls what i am capable of doing so as not to disassemble my pc :troll::troll::troll:
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                                      @Franziskaner:

                                      according to these pages
                                      Xigmatek HDT-S1283 Review
                                      http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGA_775
                                      inches to cm, cm to inches calculator
                                      I have come to a couple of conclusions
                                      the heatsink uses :

                                      • 3 high-performance heat-pipes of 8mm
                                        plus about 2 mm of aluminum between tubes 24+ ( 83) = 32mm +/- 2mm
                                        if according to the wiki a 775 measures 1.471.47 which in mm would be 3737mm
                                        you should have about 37-32=5/2=2.5mm per side
                                        if we take into account this photo

                                        and that the probe cables that I have mounted are 1.5mm (supposedly standard measurement) the probe must measure its good 3/4 mm wide considering that the sensor is in the center it would be 2mm and as I said before you must have 2.5mm per side ….. well you have enough space to put the probe in the upper part of the IHS without stepping on it with the heatsink
                                        it takes balls what I am capable of doing in order not to disassemble my pc :troll::troll::troll:
                                        regards

                                      Not to ruin your theory, but in the one I have in my hand the IHS measures 30mm, although the complete processor effectively measures 37mm

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                                        ok . ¿cuanto mide la base de el disipador ? algunos son cuadrados y mas grandes que el IHS y otros son rectangulares y un pelo mas pequeños ( de 2 a 4 mm ) si es mas grande el disipador solo tienes dos opciones :
                                        A pegar la sonda en el lateral de el IHS ( complicado , por que si la lamina adhesiva la pegas en la parte superior de el IHS el disipador no asentara todo lo bien que debería y por que tendrias que cortar los laterales de plástico de la sonda para que entre de altura)
                                        B pegar la sonda en la base de el disipador pero no encima de el IHS ( por ejem , si el IHS como dices mide 3030mm y la base de el disipador mide 3434mm ( por decir algo) seria pegarlo en los 2mm de margen que tienes , si puedes desplazarlo para un lado serian 4mm
                                        en mi caso la base de el disipador es rectangular y un poco mas estrecho que el IHS , por tanto la desplace un pelin y pegue la sonda directamente a el IHS . en una grafica GTX280 , como el disipador es mas grande que el IHS pegue la sonda a1mm de el IHS pero en la base de el disipador , con unas temps bastante realistas
                                        saludos

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                                          Esto es lo que pasa cuando uno se duerme en los laureles para responder…

                                          ! @xoni_VTR:
                                          ! > Una ultima pregunta quiero poner una sonda en el micro i para no desmontar el disipador i el chip he pensado poner la sonda en la chapa que une el micro con el disipa… supongo que los valores que obtendré serán parecidos no?

                                          Saludos
                                          ! ¿A que llamas la chapa que une el micro con el disipador?
                                          Puede ser que te refieras a la chapa que sujeta el micro en el socket y que tiene una palanquita para abrir y cerrar, o si no no se me ocurre a cual chapita te puedes referir.
                                          ! Por otro lado, ¿te refieres a una sonda plana verdad? o si no que tipo de sonda quieres colocar?
                                          ! Salu2.

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                                            si yo siempre e dicho que en la red esta todo …...
                                            buscando la "chapita" para hacer una porra con mi apuesta :troll::troll:
                                            e visto que tu disipador es mas grande que el IHS por lo que yo pegaría la sonda a el propio disipador en la cara inferior ( la que toca con el micro) justo a el lado de el micro ( preferentemente que la sonda quede encima de el aluminio no de el tubo )
                                            en color negro donde yo colocaría la sonda
                                            en color rojo la chapita que creo que dices ( y donde no debes de colocar nada )

                                            el color blanquecino es el area que ocupa el IHS ( un 775 Intel Core 2 Duo E8500)
                                            saludos

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