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    • gamingpyG Desconectado
      gamingpy @Jotole
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      @Jotole:

      Well it's very strange that this configuration doesn't work for you at 1.45. Something must be escaping. I guess you have the memory frequency set to whatever it is, right? I mean, if they are 2133, they should be at 2133, with their voltage.

      If the truth be told, it is a bit strange. If I set them to 1866 mhz with their corresponding timings 9-10-9-28, what I didn't set was the voltage, which in my case would be 1.5 volts, but I don't know if that would mean much, although it could be hehejej :ugly: jaja.

      @Jotole:

      Anyway, those 4.3 are more than enough for any graphics card right now, don't worry too much and enjoy that cucumber............

      Yes, I think for now I'll stick with these 4.3 until I try again. What seems strangest to me is that I'm not even using a stock BIOS, I've updated it and it still doesn't work, but anyway, thanks my friend.

      Best regards..

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      • JotoleJ Desconectado
        Jotole @gamingpy
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        @gamingpy:

        If the truth is a bit strange, if I set them to 1866 mhz with their corresponding timings 9-10-9-28 what I didn't put was the voltage which in my case would be 1.5 volt but I don't know if that would mean much, although it could be jejejej :ugly: jaja.

        If I think that for now I'll stay with these 4.3 until I try again. What seems strangest to me is that I'm not even using a stock BIOS but I've updated it and even so it doesn't work but anyway thanks my friend.

        Best regards..

        Today I felt like pushing mine a bit, 5 Ghz, and memos to 2500 CL10. It would be interesting to see how far these Platinum go.!!! The processor can go lower in voltage, but in order to be able to raise the bus and consequently the memory, I need that.

        Bye…

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          • Marc1981M Desconectado
            Marc1981 @Jotole
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            Jotele, don't do that of hanging those screenshots that make our teeth long for all of us. Your processor is not normal!!!!:troll: That is not a simple 3930K if not a 3980X fortified jajajajajaja

            Best regards.

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            • JotoleJ Desconectado
              Jotole @Marc1981
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              @Marc1981:

              Jotele, don't do that of hanging those screenshots that you put on us with long teeth. Your processor is not normal!!!!:troll: That is not a simple 3930K if not a 3980X vitaminized jajajajajaja

              Best regards.

              Jajajajajaaa, I think more and more that Intel made a mistake in naming it….......:ugly:

              Last night I botted at 5,150 and memos at 2600 with 1,50.
              but it stayed at the start of Windows. I am very sure that if I put more vcore it is stable. But I am not a friend of electromigrating it.

              This one has to last me a long time yet. ;).

              What has me amazed are the memories, these platinum ones are at 2133, and they are at 2500. With yesterday's botting almost 500 Mhz of oc in memories is not bad, no. And that in X79 the oc to the memories is almost impossible if I caught a Z87 with these memos........;D.

              A hug amic ?

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              • Marc1981M Desconectado
                Marc1981 @Jotole
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                I've tried and tried, but I can't go beyond 4.8, it's not 4.9 friendly. At 1.48V it's not stable and on cores 1 and 6 my temps skyrocket to 75 degrees. I don't see it compensating. I'll leave my configuration in case the compi wants to try. At 4.8 with 1.44V it's stable 100% with the memory at 2400mhz.

                My configuration for Bios 4102

                Note the values I have, the Micro and the board are water-cooled.

                Extreme Tweaker

                All Core Target CPU Turbo-Mode Speed : 4800MHz

                Target DRAM Speed : 2400MHz

                Ai Overclock Tuner: XMP
                CPU Level Up: Disabled
                Bclk freq: 100
                CPU Strap: 100
                ClockGen Full Reset: Enabled
                Turbo Ratio: By all cores
                By all cores : 48
                CPU Clock Gen Filter: 20UF
                Memory Freq: DDR3-2400
                Extreme Tweaking: Enabled
                EPU Power Saving Mode: Disabled

                Extreme OV: Disabled
                Bclk Skew: Auto
                CPU Vcore : Offset Mode +
                CPU Vcore V: 0.040

                With this offset and the CPU LLC at High my voltage value under load is 1.44V Maximum

                VTT CPU V: 1.1200
                2nd VTTCPU V: Auto
                CPU VCCSA manual V: 1.125
                DRAM V (A, B): 1.66
                DRAM V (C, D): 1.66
                CPU PLL V: 1.78
                PCH Voltage: Auto
                VTTDR Voltage (A, B): Auto
                VTTDR Voltage (C, D): Auto
                CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
                PCIe Spread Spectrum: Disabled

                My memory is Corsair Dominator Platinum 4x4GB 2400CL9

                Rampage Tweak : Auto

                DRAM Timings

                CAS: 9
                RAS to CAS Delay: 11
                RAS Pre time: 11
                RAS ACT: 31
                Command Mode: 2

                Digi+ Power Control

                CPU Load-Line Calibration(LLC): High
                CPU current capability: 120%
                CPU Voltage Freq: Manual
                CPU Fixed Frecuency: Auto
                VRM Over Temperature Protection: Auto
                CPU Power Duty Control: T.Probe
                VCore MOS Voltage Control: Auto
                CPU Power Phase Control: Optimized
                CPU Vcore Boot Up Voltage: Auto
                VCCSA Load-Line Calibration(LLC): Regular
                VCCSA Current Capability: 130%
                VCCSA Fixed Freq: Auto
                CPU VCCSA Boot Up Voltage: Auto
                CPU VTT Switching Freq: Auto
                CPU VTT Over-Current Protection: Auto
                DRAM-AB Current Capability: 130%
                DRAM-AB Voltage Frequency: Auto
                DRAM-AB Power Phase Control: Optimized
                DRAM-CD Current Capability: 130%
                DRAM-CD Voltage Frequency: Auto
                DRAM-CD power Phase Control: Optimized
                PCH Switching Freq: Auto

                Advanced Menu

                CPU Configuration

                Intel Adaptive Thermal Monitor: Enabled
                Hyper-Threading: Enabled
                Active Processor Cores: All
                Limit CPUID Maximum: Disabled
                Execute Disable Bit: Enabled
                Hardware Prefetcher: Enabled
                Adjacent Cache Line Prefetch: Enabled
                DCU Streamer Prefetcher: Enabled
                DCU IP Prefetcher: Enabled
                Intel Virtualization Tech: Enabled

                CPU Power Management Configuration

                CPU Ratio: Auto
                Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology: Enabled
                Turbo Mode: Enabled
                CPU C1E: Auto
                CPU C3 Report: Auto
                CPU C6 Report: Auto
                CPU C7 Report: Auto

                Here you can see the temps it takes with the voltage. But at 4.9 it's not stable. Does the program sound familiar to you?

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                • JotoleJ Desconectado
                  Jotole @Marc1981
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                  @Marc1981:

                  I've tried as much as I can, but I can't go beyond 4.8. It's not a friend of 4.9. At 1.48V it's not stable, and on cores 1 and 6, the temps skyrocket to 75 degrees. I don't see it compensating. I'll leave my configuration in case the friend wants to try. At 4.8 with 1.44V, it's stable 100% with the memory at 2400MHz.

                  My configuration for Bios 4102

                  ! Attention to the values I have, the CPU and the motherboard are water-cooled.
                  ! Extreme Tweaker
                  ! All Core Target CPU Turbo-Mode Speed: 4800MHz
                  ! Target DRAM Speed: 2400MHz
                  ! Ai Overclock Tuner: XMP
                  CPU Level Up: Disabled
                  Bclk freq: 100
                  CPU Strap: 100
                  ClockGen Full Reset: Enabled
                  Turbo Ratio: By all cores
                  By all cores: 48
                  CPU Clock Gen Filter: 20UF
                  Memory Freq: DDR3-2400
                  Extreme Tweaking: Enabled
                  EPU Power Saving Mode: Disabled
                  ! Extreme OV: Disabled
                  Bclk Skew: Auto
                  CPU Vcore: Offset Mode +
                  CPU Vcore V: 0.040
                  ! With this offset and CPU LLC on High, my voltage value under load is 1.44V Maximum
                  ! VTT CPU V: 1.1200
                  2nd VTTCPU V: Auto
                  CPU VCCSA manual V: 1.125
                  DRAM V (A, B): 1.66
                  DRAM V (C, D): 1.66
                  CPU PLL V: 1.78
                  PCH Voltage: Auto
                  VTTDR Voltage (A, B): Auto
                  VTTDR Voltage (C, D): Auto
                  CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
                  PCIe Spread Spectrum: Disabled
                  ! My memory is Corsair Dominator Platinum 4x4GB 2400CL9
                  ! Rampage Tweak: Auto
                  ! DRAM Timings
                  ! CAS: 9
                  RAS to CAS Delay: 11
                  RAS Pre time: 11
                  RAS ACT: 31
                  Command Mode: 2
                  ! Digi+ Power Control
                  ! CPU Load-Line Calibration(LLC): High
                  CPU current capability: 120%
                  CPU Voltage Freq: Manual
                  CPU Fixed Frecuency: Auto
                  VRM Over Temperature Protection: Auto
                  CPU Power Duty Control: T.Probe
                  VCore MOS Voltage Control: Auto
                  CPU Power Phase Control: Optimized
                  CPU Vcore Boot Up Voltage: Auto
                  VCCSA Load-Line Calibration(LLC): Regular
                  VCCSA Current Capability: 130%
                  VCCSA Fixed Freq: Auto
                  CPU VCCSA Boot Up Voltage: Auto
                  CPU VTT Switching Freq: Auto
                  CPU VTT Over-Current Protection: Auto
                  DRAM-AB Current Capability: 130%
                  DRAM-AB Voltage Frequency: Auto
                  DRAM-AB Power Phase Control: Optimized
                  DRAM-CD Current Capability: 130%
                  DRAM-CD Voltage Frequency: Auto
                  DRAM-CD power Phase Control: Optimized
                  PCH Switching Freq: Auto
                  ! Advanced Menu
                  ! CPU Configuration
                  ! Intel Adaptive Thermal Monitor: Enabled
                  Hyper-Threading: Enabled
                  Active Processor Cores: All
                  Limit CPUID Maximum: Disabled
                  Execute Disable Bit: Enabled
                  Hardware Prefetcher: Enabled
                  Adjacent Cache Line Prefetch: Enabled
                  DCU Streamer Prefetcher: Enabled
                  DCU IP Prefetcher: Enabled
                  Intel Virtualization Tech: Enabled
                  ! CPU Power Management Configuration
                  ! CPU Ratio: Auto
                  Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology: Enabled
                  Turbo Mode: Enabled
                  CPU C1E: Auto
                  CPU C3 Report: Auto
                  CPU C6 Report: Auto
                  CPU C7 Report: Auto

                  Here you can see the temps it takes with the voltage. But at 4.9 it's not stable. Does the program sound familiar to you?

                  Haha, yes it sounds familiar, I don't use another. With that I control everything and it's very reliable. Mine at 5 GHz doesn't go beyond 60º, of course I have a 9 x 12 radiator for the CPU and motherboard, not much…...........xD.

                  From what I see in that image, you're putting 1.45 for 4.9. If you want to keep it stable, try raising it a couple more points.

                  Although I already told you that for an SLI of 780, which I think you have now, right? :). You have more than enough with 4.5. Pushing it further is for benchmarking, or managing 3-way or above. When gaming, you won't notice anything for those 400 MHz, and if you stress the processor too much...

                  Best regards

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                  • Marc1981M Desconectado
                    Marc1981 @Jotole
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                    I have managed to set it to 1.48 and it is not stable either. But how can there be a 10 degree difference between one core and another? I have changed the paste 3 times, with different application methods in case it was that. But nothing stays the same. I have two triple radiators with the Scythe Gentle Typhoon at 1800. I am thinking of placing a peltier exchanger in the middle. So that the temp of the liquid goes down.
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                    • Marc1981M Desconectado
                      Marc1981 @Marc1981
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                      How about this, sandwiched in the radiator? Discount Thermoelectric Cooling forLiquid cooling 24V 200W LC 200, USA BEST SUPPLY Price $268.00 - Best Supply is a building supply company which services both the residential and commercial markets.
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                      • JotoleJ Desconectado
                        Jotole @Marc1981
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                        @Marc1981:

                        I've managed to get it up to 1.48 and it's not stable for me either. But how can there be a 10 degree difference between one core and another? I've changed the paste 3 times, with different application methods in case that was the problem. But nothing has changed. I have two triple radiators with Scythe Gentle Typhoons at 1800. I'm thinking about putting a Peltier exchanger in the middle. To lower the liquid temperature.

                        The temperature difference may be due to the HIS, the plate that covers the processor. It may be more curved than normal, which could be the reason for the temperature difference.

                        Try tightening the block more on one corner than the other, until you find a point where that difference isn't so great. Even so, I don't know if it will be solved. Be careful in the process so you don't tighten it too much........

                        Putting a Peltier cell in will lower the temperature, but it's a hassle. I know it for cases of overclocking and for benchmarking, but for 24/7 I don't know how it will go.

                        Best regards...

                        P.D. Honestly, I wouldn't worry about a Peltier. Try to lower that temperature less frequently, or with another block. What block do you have??

                        But I wouldn't put a Peltier in....

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                          Sonic_AFB @Jotole
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                          @Jotole:

                          Today I was tempted to push mine a bit, 5 Ghz, and memos to 2500 CL10. It would be interesting to see how far these Platinums go.!!! The processor can lower the voltage, but in order to be able to raise the bus and consequently the memory, I need that.

                          Salu2…

                          Yours and my brother's look a bit alike jeje

                          Un Saludete!

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                            Jotole @Sonic_AFB
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                            @Sonic_AFB:

                            You and my brother's look alike jeje

                            Best regards!

                            Ehhhhhhhh…..!!!!

                            Congratulations on my behalf, piece of Overclock, yes, they look like they're from the same batch............ ;).

                            I get "yuyu" (scared) when I pass the psychological barrier of 1.50. But seeing that screenshot, I'm going to pass psychology the way I know how...............xD.:troll::troll:

                            Best regards..!!

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                              Marc1981 @Sonic_AFB
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                              Well, now all the screws on the block are tightened evenly. The block is the EK HF Supreme. What worries me is that if you increase the voltage, the temperature soars. The block can't control it like the others. It must not be making good contact. In the end, I won't have to worry about it much, it's not until September that it will be released on Ivi Bridge-E.
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                              • JotoleJ Desconectado
                                Jotole @Marc1981
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                                @Marc1981:

                                Well, now all the pins on the block are even. The block is the EK HF Supreme. What worries me is that if you increase the voltage, the temperature shoots up. The block can't control it like the others. It must not be making good contact. In the end, I won't lose much sleep over it, it's not until September that it will be released on Ivi Bridge-E.

                                I mentioned the block to you because I noticed an improvement when I changed the EK for the Koolance 780, just 5 degrees, but hey, something is something.

                                Another option is to "lap" the processor. It consists of sanding the HIS, with the idea that the heat transfer will be more effective, eliminating the imperfections it comes with, such as those possible curves.

                                Lapear CPU, like any process that involves modifying a CPU, voids the warranty, but the gain in some cases is quite good.

                                I have a Q6600 and a Q6700 lapped and they are still in the kids' PCs, holding their own....

                                Marc, really, don't worry about it anymore and enjoy the beast............at 4.5 Ghz, you have plenty of processing power. Maybe the problem isn't with the processor, what pump are you using?

                                Best regards...

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                                  Marc1981 @Jotole
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                                  I use the Laing D5 variable. But I already told you that it doesn't give me any more headaches. It stays like this. In September I will change it for the Ivi Bridge.

                                  Thanks bichin!!!!!!!!!!!! You are the best

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                                    Jotole @Marc1981
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                                    @Marc1981:

                                    I use the Laing D5 variable. But I already told you that it doesn't give me any more headaches. It stays like this. In September I will change it for the Ivi Bridge.

                                    Thanks bichin!!!!!!!!!!!! You are the best

                                    At what speed do you have it? Remember that in an RL circuit, the flow rate is as important as the speed at which that liquid passes through it. I have the CPU at 4, and in my system it works well.

                                    You're welcome…..........., I think you're doing your best.......... ;).

                                    A hug, transanlactico........xD

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                                      Marc1981 @Jotole
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                                      Well I have it maxed out, I think it's 5. The previous CPU I had before wasn't stable with the settings it has now, but it did have more balanced temps. As far as I understand the chip only occupies the central part from top to bottom. Everything else is in the air. That's why many recommend placing a line of paste in the center from top to bottom and placing the block or radiator. Always applying more pressure in the center than on the sides. But as I say I've tried both ways, placing a central line of paste and the other is to spread all the paste on the CPU. I've gotten the same result. It may have some curvature, but I haven't checked that. While gaming they do stay balanced, between 54 and 58 degrees. They don't reach 60. Frequency 4.8 and voltage at 1.44V. CPU VTT and VCSSA do support low. For the memory at 2400 I have them at 1.12V it's the minimum for it to be stable. Saludos? jajajaja
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                                        gamingpy @Marc1981
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                                        I know this topic is somewhat old but I need a little help with my oc rig, I have increased the frequency of my ram to 2133mhz so by default it has increased the multiplier to 3.8ghz right now I am trying to oc to 4.5ghz it starts windows but when I run the prime95 program the pc shuts down, what could be missing would it be increasing the voltage, the current voltage is at 1.350volt..

                                        I think the issue is that when the cores are stressed the temperature rises to the top so it enters a protection stage and the pc shuts down to prevent damage to the equipment.

                                        UPDATING-…......................................................................................

                                        What has happened is that my cpu is connected to a power stabilizer so I have realized I have plugged the cpu and the tv in the same place so it has not supported it because it has low watts, right now I am testing at 4.4ghz at 1.304V and it has reached 74 degrees maximum the hottest core for about 18 minutes I think I can lower the voltage to get a better temperature although I don't know if I should stay with this one.

                                        I have opted for the 4.4 because when I put 4.5 it gets too hot it reaches 77 to 78 degrees and from my point of view those temps are no longer normal for 24/7

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                                          I have enabled xmp and set everything to auto, I only changed the multiplier to 40 to see how much vCore it used and according to the image it uses up to 1.360volt I think it is very high no? Previously it was at an oc of 43 ghz but with the factory ram at 1866 mhz but now I wanted to oc it a little and reach 2133, what I have also noticed is that for example when setting the vCore manually when running prime 95 after a few minutes some cores start to lower the percentage of load according to temp core, what is this due to? In my opinion I think it is to keep the cores stable at a level? Another thing also since I am here I wanted to ask also if someone can explain to me what does load line calibration and offset mode in vCore do and affect, <:( what also intrigues me a little is the question of voltages when I set everything to auto and the micro is at rest it uses less voltage but if I modify and set a default value the voltage when turning on the pc and being in idle mode already consumes that amount of vCore put, is this normal? or will there be an option to activate that at the moment that it is not at 100% load it can use the least possible voltage

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                                            Jotole @gamingpy
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                                            @gamingpy:

                                            I have activated xmp and set everything to auto, I only changed the multiplier to 40 to see how much vCore I was using and according to the image it uses up to 1.360volt I think that is very high, right? Previously it was at an oc of 43 ghz but with the factory ram at 1866 mhz but now I wanted to oc it a little and reach 2133, I have also noticed that for example when I set the vcore manually when running prime 95 after a few minutes some cores start to lower the percentage of load according to temp core, what is this due to? In my opinion I think it is to keep the cores stable at a level? Another thing also since I am here I wanted to ask also if someone can explain to me what it does or affects when touching load line calibration and offset mode in vCore, <:( what also intrigues me a little is the question of voltages when I set everything to auto and the micro is at rest it uses less voltage but if I modify and put a default value the voltage when turning on the pc and being in idle mode already consumes that amount of vcore put, is this normal? or will there be an option to activate that at the moment that it is not at 100% load it can use the least possible voltage

                                            Hello gamingpy,

                                            It is normal that when you put the vcore to auto it gets too high, this is done by all the boards, the best is to leave it in manual. You should also know that when you increase the memory frequency, the processor will ask for more voltage. Since the memory controller is in the cpu, and forcing more frequency asks for more voltage.

                                            The fact that it lowers the load is for the same reason. In auto, the processor lowers the load to protect itself.

                                            Load Line calibration, is the amount of voltage that enters the vrm. We will put a high value if the oc is high. But this also heats up the vrm and the processor more, leave it in Auto for your OC.

                                            If you put a vcore in manual, it will always maintain that vcore. Effectively there is a way so that it does not do that and lowers vcore when it is not under load. It is through the Offset. But I can not help you there. I always deactivate energy savings as soon as I oc a processor….... manias... ;).

                                            Best regards

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