Tips for new guts
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Hello, I'm thinking of getting new parts for my computer for Christmas and I'd like to ask for advice to try to get the most out of what I buy. My idea is to buy a motherboard, CPU, RAM and graphics card, the rest I intend to reuse, although I do have an existential doubt about whether to put liquid cooling or not (suggestions are welcome :D).
Currently I have an AMD Phenom II x4 975 at 3.60 with 8Gb of RAM and an Nvidia MSI gtx570 (I'll put the motherboard later, I can't remember right now). The computer is mainly for gaming and multimedia in full HD, regarding the money I haven't decided how much to spend yet, but I imagine it will be around 600 or 700 €.
I would like to have your experience to put together a good configuration. By the way, if it can also be quiet, that's even better :D.
Thank you very much.
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nobody? :cry:
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Que PC comprar - 17-07-2013 - HardLimit several indicative examples.
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3570K + HR-02 if possible + Z77-D3H + R280X + 2x4GB DDR3
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ok, thanks
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How do you see this?
G.Skill 8GB DDR3-1600 78.90
Intel
i7-4770K 298.90
ASRock Fatal1ty H87 Performance 98.90The graphics card is the one that gives me the most headaches, I prefer NVIDIA, but from what I've seen in terms of quality/power/price ratio, ATI/AMD leaves NVIDIA far behind.
Best regards.
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It makes no sense to mount a K on an H and to play better i5 Why do you want it?
Look at what I told you on pccomponentes.
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I've already taken a look at what you put me, that's why I tried to look for something a little faster, like how is the i5 better for gaming than the i7?, is there that much difference between h and k?, I thought they were just name denominations, not that they had a specific meaning. And the main use of the computer is for gaming.
By the way, is the memory I put in okay?
So it would be either putting the Asrock Z87 Pro4 motherboard or putting the Intel Core i5-4670
or directly what you put in the suggested configurations Asrock Z87 Pro4 + Intel Core i5-4670 K 3.4Ghz Box, right? -
The K with Z plate allow OverClock (increase the processor frequency), if you want something moderate go for a 3470 or a 3570 (the 4670 without K can't be overclocked) and a card between 80 (Z77 Pro3) and 110€ (the Gigabyte I gave you), you don't need much card to leave it over 4GHz. With this you save some money and you won't need much heatsink, with Hyper 212 EVO you're fine.
As for the K, they are similar, the 3000 performs and costs a little less, overclocks a little better too. I'm more drawn to the 3570K but well, if you're going to give it some caña and you can mount the HR-02 (you need a pretty wide case) it's worth it. What case do you have?
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I don't think I would have space problems, it's quite wide and I currently have a large heatsink + fan.
So you recommend that I better get a smaller micro and overclock it to 4GHz? and from there the need for a Z type motherboard?
Regarding RAM, is there any that works better than another for gaming?
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For a moderate OC yes.
If you have a decent cooler and want to take advantage of it, although it doesn't have 1155 sockets, ASRock has sockets compatible with 775. You'll save a few euros with a Z77 Pro3 or Pro4, it can be a good move if you have the one that comes with the Phenom II or you're going to disassemble.
There's no mystery with the RAM, just a bit faster. Don't spend too much, over 70€ for 8GB is fine. I'll give you a cheap example and another one looking for performance:
DDR3 1333 memory sale offer at Online store good cheap prices with discounts
DDR3 2133 memory sale offer at Online store good cheap prices with discountsYou'll probably find the rest of the components cheaper at Xtremmedia.
If you want performance and you're going to worry about tuning and squeezing a K, I insist on the case width, the HR-02 (only at pccomponentes) is great for 40€ and is appreciated past 4GHz but, it's a bit taller than the EVO and those 3 mm. despite seeming little make it not fit in many cases.
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Well, in summary, let's see if this is the right one XD:
Motherboard (I put the 87 because I prefer the socket 1150 which is newer, right?):
Asrock Z87 Pro4 90-MXGPP0-A0UAYZ MotherboardProcessor (I put the 4670k because I prefer the socket 1150 which is newer, right?):
Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4Ghz Box BX80646I54670K ProcessorMemory:
G.Skill Ares DDR3 2133 PC-17000 8GB 2X4GB CL9 F3-2133C9D-8GAB DDR3 Memory
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G.Skill Ripjaws X Blue DDR3 2133 8GB 2x4GB CL9 F3-17000CL9D-8GBXM DDR3 MemoryFan/Heatsink:
Thermalright HR-02 Macho Rev.A HR-02-MACHO-REV.A Fan/CoolerGraphics card (unless nvidia comes out with something similar at a similar price, I hate getting amd, but there's no comparison :() :
Sapphire R9 280X Toxic 3GB GDDR5 11221-01-40G Graphics CardHow do you see it?
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does that configuration seem good to you?
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The slight extra performance of the 4670K is offset by a higher OC capacity in the 3570K, which will also cost you a little less. Besides, I just saw that they have a used micro (I assume it will be a return): Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4Ghz Box BX80637I53570K Intel Socket 1155 Processors online store offer Asrock Z77 Pro4 90-MXGKS0-A0UAYZ Motherboard You won't notice these latencies, 5 euros less: G.Skill Ripjaws X DDR3 2133 PC3-17000 8GB 2x4GB CL9 F3-2133C9D-8GXL DDR3 Memory Editing: The Gigabyte graphics card costs you a few euros less... Gigabyte Radeon R9 280X OC 3GB GDDR5 GV-R928XOC-3GD Graphics Card -
one thing I had thought about memory is that ripjaws might be a bit "tall", I mean the design they have makes them taller and they might interfere with the cooler/fan.
and another thing I just read that since AMD has released the r9 290 it's possible that NVIDIA will lower prices in the short term, is that viable?, have you heard anything?
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I just saw that nvidia cards have dropped quite a bit in price because of the release of the 290 and the new 780 ti, do you think a 770 would be worth it instead of the 280?
Keep in mind that I prefer nvidia in similar conditions
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Hello, one last question, I'm between these two graphics cards:Sapphire R9 280X Toxic 3GB GDDR5 11221-01-40G Graphics Card or
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 OC 2GB GDDR5 GV-N770OC-2GD Graphics Card which one do you think is better?
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nobody can tell me?
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