Phenom II X4 955 vs FX 4110
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Like so many people, I was waiting for the Bulldozer release and I've been disappointed with all the bad things I've read about them.
However, I would like to know if the quad-core Bulldozer, the FX 4110, is still worth it compared to the Phenom X4 955, which was the one I was looking at before I found out about the Bulldozer release.
As far as I could see by googling, Windows 7 evaluates the FX better: 7.9 vs. 7.3. And common sense tells me that the FX 4110 is better: 32 nm vs. 45, which implies lower consumption, also less heating, and in principle higher speed; higher clock frequency compared to most X4s... but the reviews point in the opposite direction to common sense. Let's see if you can help me solve this puzzle.
Best regards.
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If you make a lot of use of programs that take advantage of multi-threading, you can consider it, otherwise I would go for a 955, 1055T or almost better an i5.
If it is for gaming, the issue is that Bulldozer has 2 modules per FPU and normally games are programmed to use FPU, hence we see the Phenom performing even better.
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Mmmm… programs that take advantage of multi-threading... Photoshop and 7-Zip, and for that I'm not even sure. In any case, I don't use them much.
The 1055T and the i5 are out of my price range...
According to what you say, if I'm not going to play much, the X4 955 is worth it... and, in fact, I don't play much.
I would like to hear more opinions; I'm still undecided.
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You have understood the opposite, I was saying that games usually make use of FPU, not modules or HT. The thing is that it also depends on the game, they have improved some things and also bring new instructions (AES) that are noticeable in the programs that use them.Just with 7-Zip it seems that they go pretty well jejeje.
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I think an i5 is guaranteed effectiveness and versatility. Right now I wouldn't be sure about going for an AMD unless it was a top of the range at a very low price, and I also don't think I would get as much out of it as I would with the i5...
Regards
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So the Phenom II X4 955 performs a bit better in current games and in single-threaded programs... is that its only advantage? Then I guess my final decision will be based on the price of each one, but if the FX 4110 is sold at prices that are around the web, I will opt for the latter.
It is to be assumed that software is moving towards multi-threading and, if so, the Bulldozer is a better decision in the medium to long term.How do you see the reasoning?
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Well, in multi-threading that take advantage of the 4 cores, the PhenomII X4 also perform better... Buying the FX-4110, AMD is the one who wins, because it is simpler and cheaper to produce than a Phenom. That FX-4110 are two modules that execute 4 threads partially, the Phenom X4 has four full cores, it will always be superior. In the future it is expected that Bulldozer will scale easily to 4,6,8 modules (8,12,16 partial threads), but that FX-4110 of two modules does not have much future.
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The fx-8xxx seems like it will stay in a watered-down state because it performs even worse than the 2500, but it has to be said that it's a great move by AMD to maintain compatibility with am3, just for that it's almost worth it, considering how many platforms we've had with Intel already... and the ones that are still to come.
It makes me sad because it seems like a very well-worked CPU, maybe soon they will start to compete on price, but it's clear that in terms of top performance Intel is 3 steps ahead, maybe too much considering the quad-channel memory of the next lga 2011, but it seems that this is what the neophytes like, big dumb...
Although in the "series" cooler they are ahead of Intel! :lol:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4955/the-bulldozer-review-amd-fx8150-tested
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PCComponentes already has a price for the FX 4110…..
I don't know if it's possible to be more indecisive than I am right now.Without the price being an important factor, you say the X4 is better. But I don't understand why. It's what I said before: 32 nm vs 45, less heat, faster clock speed, more cache... and yet, it's worse. Are there really any tests of the Bulldozer's performance?
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You read what has been written? You have a link to a review, and obviously it is not the only one :lol:
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Do you read what has been written? You have a link to a review, and obviously it is not the only one :lol:
But they are always going to try the best and most expensive!! They barely say anything about the FX 4110 anywhere…
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I think there is a review where they made the 4 cores/8 modules work like a 4100 by capping it.
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Not specifically the 4110, but you can get an idea with the results of the 8150, they give both an oc and superpi as high as the Sandy (hwbot.org) and you will have that with any model. What does is that you can see that they perform a little more than the phenom but as if they had half the cores, so to match an x4 you would have to go maybe to an fx-6xxx. And saying this is repeating what has already been commented…
But I don't think anyone can tell you until you see more data, you'll have to wait
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Although in the dissipation of "series" they are ahead of Intel! :risitas:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4955/the-bulldozer-review-amd-fx8150-tested
How hard AMD is working!! using liquid cooling and all…:eoh: and I who didn't even put the heatsink on the 2 1156s I have :nono:
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I have not yet used a stock cooler. I have 2 TRAY and a 775 whose cooler is still in its box.
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Hello everyone, looking for information about the x4 955 and fx 4100 I have arrived at this thread and I find myself in the same situation, it is difficult to choose between the two although in my case the balance is inclined towards the 955. I am going to take the plunge.
I want to configure the 955 for gaming and I don't know much about it, so I ask for advice what would be the best configuration (better motherboard better graphics card...) to get the most out of a 955? -
Welcome, for full configurations you must use this subforum:
HardLimit - Full configurations
By the way, good price/performance choice the 955, don't forget to put budget. If you're doing well with money you could look at an Intel i5 2500K. In the short term, investing those almost 100€ extra from Intel in graphics will yield more, but in the long term, Intel could give the edge where the 955 won't.
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Welcome, for full configurations you must use this subforum:
HardLimit - Full configurations
By the way, good price/performance choice the 955, don't forget to put a budget. If you have enough money you could look at an Intel i5 2500K. In the short term, investing those almost 100€ extra from Intel in graphics will yield more, but in the long term, Intel could give the edge where the 955 won't.
Thanks:D in that case what do you advise me: a 955 at maximum or a 2500k with integrated graphics and with less memory? with the possibility of expanding in the future
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