Connect Neutral Router TP-LINK WR1043ND

[Fassou]

You may need to change the IP of the router first, before the DHCP service as a protective measure so that you do not put different ranges.

Anyway, if you are determined that the TP-Link will handle everything, it is better to put Bridge+PPPoA on the Zyxel and that's it.

Goodbye!

P.D.: the cable between both routers I assume is 100% reliable, right?

[pestanin]

If I grab the males that I have... Let's see if I understand.

The idea is to have the Zyxel connected to the PC via the RJ45 of all time (or WIFI will be the same) and then enter its configuration and select bridge mode + PPPoA. I restart, save changes etc... and then connect this to the Tp-Link via LAN Zyxel - WAN Tp-Link which should be plugged into the PC also via RJ45 right? Ultimately which one should be connected to the PC?

The cables are requetecomprobados (it's the only thing I can do with some reliability :facepalm:)

Best regards.

[Fassou]

When you have the Zyxel configured (turn off the WiFi by the way), you leave both routers off and without a cable connection.

You start the Zyxel and let it synchronize, then you connect the computer to the TP-Link and finish configuring it if it wasn't, and finally, you connect a LAN port of the Zyxel to the WAN of the TP-Link.

By entering the TP-Link you should be able to see how on its WAN side it has taken the public IP that the Zyxel has passed on, which acts as a modem.

Goodbye!

[psgonza]

Hello

I have done the same thing, but with a SAGEM (1500 something, an old Wanadoo used as a modem) and a linksys WRTxx… It took me a while but in the end I got it to work.

I don't know if you have already done this, but just in case it is of any use to you, on the device that is going to act as a modem, you do not configure the PPOA or anything like that, only the atm with its vci and things like that. The neutral router that goes behind the modem is the one that should take care of the authentication.

Regards

[pestanin]

In the end I didn't stop and I couldn't look at anything. This afternoon I try a little bit of everything although the other day I put the Zyxel in Bridge + PPPoA mode and besides not working with the Tp-Link it cost me an egg to be able to access it again to change it. The Zyxel didn't synchronize and I had to do a blind reset :wall:.

psgonza, then I would leave the Zyxel with its configuration as I have it now? This way there has been no way.

Thanks.

[Fassou]

Your ISP is Timofónica, right?

Salu2!

[pestanin]

So is that it? Any problems with these gentlemen and the apparatus?

[Fassou]

So you got it to work on monopuesto (Bridge), but not the TP-Link right?

Salu2!

PD: The PPPoA issue is only when the ISP is Telefónica ;D

[psgonza]

@pestanin:

In the end, I didn't stop over the weekend and I couldn't look at anything. This afternoon I tried a little bit of everything, although the other day I put the Zyxel in Bridge + PPPoA mode and, in addition to not working with the Tp-Link, it cost me an egg to be able to access it again to change it. The Zyxel didn't synchronize and I had to do a blind reset :wall:.

psgonza, so should I leave the Zyxel with its configuration as I have it now? This way there has been no way.

Thanks.

I'm not at home yet, I'll see if tomorrow morning I can look at it and tell you how I put it, in case it works for you.

[pestanin]

Oh well, oh well!. If I put the Zyxel in Bridge mode it goes crazy, stops syncing and as it doesn't "link" with the Tp-link I lose internet and the will to live.

If I do the operation```
Start the Zyxel and let it sync, then connect the computer to the TP-Link and finish setting it up if it wasn't, and finally, connect a LAN port of the Zyxel to the WAN of the TP-Link.

Going into the TP-Link you should be able to see how on its WAN side it has taken the public IP that the Zyxel has passed to it, acting as a modem.

it doesn't even turn on the WAN light on the Tp-Link and obviously doesn't get the IP that the Zyxel passes to it if it passes anything… To do this operation do they have to be both with DHCP activated or just the Tp-Link? How should the IPs be? Right now the Zyxel is in the range 192.168.1.1 and the Tp-Link in 192.168.2.1. I've also tried the trick from [http://www.adslzone.net/postx196025-0-15.html](http://www.adslzone.net/postx196025-0-15.html)``` That the IP of the Zyxel is 192.168.1.1 (its gateway).    That the IP of the Conceptronic is 192.168.0.1 (its gateway).    That the WAN of the Conceptronic is in Dynamic IP (to get an IP automatically through the WAN).    That on the WEB of the Conceptronic on the HOME screen, in the WAN section, in the Connection type line it says DHCP.    If all that is like that connect the ethernet and telephone cables, then power the Zyxel first, then the Conceptronic and then the computer.

and neither.

[pestanin]

I'm going to try http://www.adslzone.net/postp2033032.html

I have accessed the TP-LINK with the network cable connected to my pc   I have changed the IP to the following... 192.168.1.2   I have deactivated the DHCP   Activated the Wireless on the TP-LINK    I have changed the network cable from my pc to the Zyxel, since after these changes on the TP-LINK I did not have internet access   I have deactivated the Wi-Fi of the Zyxel from the Portal Alejandra to leave this job to the TP-LINK and everything is (in principle) configured, I have the Wi-Fi through the TP-LINK and Imagenio working. 

and I'll tell you…

[pestanin]

Well, zero dollars. So there is no WIFI connection on the Tp-Link in any way and in theory it is exactly the same case (although there is no image here but the Zyxel is the same). More tomorrow.

[kynes]

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Una prueba que puedes hacer, pestanin. Te comento cómo lo tengo yo en mi casa, y quizás te valga.

Prueba al zyxel ponerlo en modo normal adsl, ni bridge ni leches. Pones la ip que quieras, y creas una regla de firewall en la que abras todos los puertos a la ip del puerto wan del tplink. Una vez tengas todos los puertos redirigidos al wan del tplink, utilizas el firewall de éste para controlar qué puertos abres hacia fuera, y cuáles no.

[Fassou]

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Si tenías Imagenio y no se cambió el fimware, probablemente sea imposible ponerlo en modo Bridge y que funcione

Haz lo que dice Kynes, desactivando el DHCP del Zyxel y poniendo su IP (LAN) a mano (Ej: 10.11.12.121/255.255.255.252)

Después al TP-Link le metes a mano en el apartado WAN una IP del mísmo rango que la que pusiste al Zyxel (Ej: 10.11.12.122/255.255.255.252). Finalmente compruebas que el DHCP del TP-Link funciona correctamente, conectando tu equipo por cable (o WiFi).

Salu2!

PD: En teoría, al Zyxel habría que meterle una ruta estática para que sepa que la red 192.168.x.x es accesible entrando por la WAN del TP-Link (10.11.12.122 en mi Ej), pero si redireccionas todos los puertos hacia esa IP, probablemente funcione.

PD2: si no tira, cable cruzado entre routers, y te busco un configurador para cambiar el firmware a ese router :wall:

[pestanin]

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Al quitar en el Zyxel DHCP ocurre lo mismo que al ponerlo en Bridge, pierde el sincronismo y ya no hay dios que conecte nada. Soy bastante negado en esto de las redess pero empiezo a pensar que el Zyxel tiene algo de culpa en todo esto ¬¬. El problema es que no puedo probar con otro router porque la semana pasada tiré dos OfficeConnect de Ya que aún conservaba, maldición!

Un saludo.

[psgonza]

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Hola….

He tenido un momento para mirarte esto. Asi lo tengo yo montado:

En el router externo (como modem):

Solo configurada la conexion WAN (1483 bridging). De hecho, tengo una luz de alarma en el router, porque el adsl no esta levantado (es normal). DHCP server disabled. Wireless disabled.

De uno de los puertos, saco un cable , y se lo conecto en el puerto marcado como "internet" al linksys

En el router interno (como AP):

Conexion PPPoE (en mi caso) para la autenticacion y con la tipica config de un AP domestico.

Si me acuerdo que en el router externo, me tocó desconfigurar algunas cosas para que hiciera el bridge, porque con la config que tenia, no conseguia que el linksys interno pillara una IP publica de mi ISP.

A ver si te vale de algo.....

[pestanin]

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Entonces tengo que dar por hecho que el Zyxel se quedará "muerto" y no darle más vueltas a ese tema. El problema va a venir con que yo en ningún momento he podido hacer que la luz WAN (¿tu puerto internet?) del Tp-Link se encienda por lo que nunca ha existido conexión entre ambos de esa manera. Esta tarde/noche vuelvo a repasarlo.

[Fassou]

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Dos preguntas :

1ª - ¿ Has pasado alguna vez el Asistente de Configuración del Tp-Link, tal como hacen en el enlace que nos pusiste en el primer post ?

2ª - Cuando te decimos de poner alguna configuración al Zyxel, ¿Usas el portal Alejandra? o quitas el cable telefónico, reseteas el router y accedes por 192.168.1.1.

Salu2!

[pestanin]

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La primera vez usé el asistente y o bien me decía que no había nada conectado al puerto WAN o que no se reconocía mi ISP. Precisamente acabo de llegar a casa y venía pensando en volver a hacer esa operativa después de releer ese enlace ;). No sé por qué pero ahora me da buenas vibraciones.

Leí lo del portal Alejandra pero como no sabía de qué iba la vaina lo hago a capón y entrando por 192.168.1.1.

[pestanin]

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Ooooooooooh yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah ¡¡¡qué alegría!!! Ya está compañeros ;D.

He hecho exactamente lo mismo que las anteriores veces excepto que esta vez he conectado a la WAN del Tp-link antes de encenderlo :wall:. En resumen.

Hasta que no se diga lo contrario mantener apagado el Tp-Link.

1. Poner en modo bridge el Zyxel y olvidarse de él para siempre aunque pierda la sincronización y la luz de DSL/PPP se ponga verde y toda la pesca. Pasando de todo.
2. Conectar desde una salida LAN del Zyxel a la salida WAN del Tp-Link y otra de una salida LAN del TP-Link a la red del PC. Mantener apagado el Tp-Link por la gloria del gato cojo.
3. Ahí vamos. Enchufar el TP-Link y pasados unos minutos acceder a su configuración vía 192.168.1.1 (en este punto resetearlo si como yo antes habíais hecho mil pruebas y no podías entrar :ffu:). Pinchar en Quick Setup y tras marcar Auto-Detect dejar que todo siga su curso. Aquí configurar según dicen en http://www.redeszone.net/routers/tp-link-tl-wr1043nd-ultimate-review-y-manual-de-este-router-neutro-gigabit-con-wifi-n-a-300mbps-y-nas-usb/

Gracias a todos por el esfuerzo. ¿Ha merecido la pena? Pues algo mas de cobertura tengo y parece que el WIFI es más estable que con el Zyxel. ¿Intentaré meterle un firmwware más chanante para hacer cosas nunca vistas? NO lo creo :fuckyea:.

Un saludo.