Extend USB through a PLC and a USB-RJ45 converter

[MaEBLoR]

The PLC-USB is expensive if the iodine is expensive, only the USB part is worth €120

This system works simply by inserting a PLC to USB converter, but what makes it work is software on the pc that the device will use. The software puts the information through the network, the network is supposed to be connected to PLC and one of the PLC is this little device of 120 euros, which will recognize that it is for it and make the USB work. It is sold only for €120 the USB part or €145 euros the kit of a normal PLC Rj-45 to electrical network plus the one that collects from the electrical network to pass to usb.

And the cheap system I am looking at, is really not an adapter, it is a usb extension by ethernet-rj45, it brings as you say a female part and a male part of usb, the characteristics say that it reaches about 150 feet with rj-45 cable, which I don't care if I try it this way, because I will crimp a cord of 50cm at most and swearing... it must have plenty of power for this. And in price, like everything... to the Chinese, between 8 and 9 euros the two models I have seen. Then I order it, it will take a while to arrive if it comes from joncon xD

[MaEBLoR]

This is the USB extender by PLC, in case anyone is curious to see it. But I think it's very expensive... although there will be people who will compensate for those 145€ of the kit...

dLAN 200 AV USB extender Starter Kit

[lforos]

I don't understand you well. If the idea is to put the USB device "two floors above the house", what do you mean by putting a cord of only 50 cm? Do you mean this distance only for tests?, because two floors probably imply more than six meters.

Anyway, a category 5 UTP cable should let you carry low voltage signals in conditions of more than 30 meters so you shouldn't have any problem.

[MaEBLoR]

@lforos:

I don't understand you well. If the idea is to put the USB device "two floors above the house", what do you mean by putting a cord of only 50 cm? Do you mean this distance only for testing?, because two floors probably imply more than six meters.

Anyway, a category 5 UTP cable should let you carry low voltage signals under conditions of more than 30 meters so you shouldn't have any problems.

The thing is…

-pc>usb to rj45 adapter>plc>powerline>plc>rj45 to usb adapter>wifiusb

The 50cm cord is because you don't need more if it's really going to go through a PLC. The issue of using PLC is because you don't have access to lay cables well, plus I doubt that a gadget from China like that adapter is going to have a minimum of power.

I'm making a giant omni antenna for the person who wants to use this experiment, to see if the antenna works, because I'm a disaster at soldering xD

[lforos]

If you use a conventional ethernet to PLC connector, I think it won't work for you because it does a protocol conversion and what it expects to receive through the RJ45 is ethernet protocol, not USB. Let's say it works as an access point for a different physical network, so it solves the conversion at a higher network level than mere electrical signal.

Can't you just run a normal UTP cable to the place where you're going to put the USB device? If so, the configuration PC > USB to RJ45 > UTP cable > RJ45 to USB > USB device would work well for you.

[Kernel1.0]

@MaEBLoR:

The thing is…

-pc>usb to rj45 adapter>plc>powerline>plc>rj45 to usb adapter>wifiusb

Look how you like to complicate your life…
PC\\PLC\\PLC\\Wifi access point

[MaEBLoR]

@lforos:

If you use a conventional PLC ethernet connector, I think it won't work for you because it does a protocol conversion and what it expects to receive through the RJ45 is ethernet protocol not USB. Let's say it works as an access point for a different physical network, so it solves the conversion at a higher network level than mere electrical signal.

Can't you just run a normal UTP cable to the place where you're going to put the USB device? If so, the configuration PC > USB to RJ45 > UTP cable > RJ45 to USB > USB device would work well for you.

The adapter is a kit, it comes with a male USB on one side and a female USB on the other side, look at a little picture…

My doubt is if it will fight with the PLC xD

[MaEBLoR]

@Kernel1.0:

Look how you like to complicate your life…
PC\\PLC\\PLC\\Wifi access point

XD

I could also buy the antenna made and instead I have a cut on the palm of my hand from watching TV and cutting the cable at the same time :ugly: ajajajaja

The thing about using this is because it already has USB WIFI, besides it is 2w and has quite a lot of power, it also has PLC.

I would have to buy either the USB-RJ45 adapters, or a access point. And the adapter is worth less than 9€, besides we do experiments and we don't get bored xD
The problem is that the USB doesn't give electricity, but it's solved with a hub that was in the drawer… it has its own power supply, 2A takes the crap, so it's more than enough that I have already tested it.

[Kernel1.0]

You can find access points for less than 20€, but if it's for your entertainment, I'm not the one to deprive you of fun.

[MaEBLoR]

@lforos:

Can't you just run a normal UTP cable to the site where you're going to put the USB device? If so, the configuration PC > USB to RJ45 > UTP cable > RJ45 to USB > USB device would work well for you.

I can't believe I'm answering this!!

You can't run the cable because you don't have access to the holes where the cables are run, and the person who does have access is never there; it's an empty house. Plus, I think they'll be moving in a couple of months to another place, and the whole PLC thing looked easier to set up/take down... than the issue of running cables and such.

[Nemo]

@MaEBLoR:

XD

I could also buy the antenna made and instead I have a cut on the palm of my hand from watching TV and cutting cable at the same time :ugly: ajajajaja

The thing about using this is because I already have USB WIFI, besides it's 2w and it has enough power, I also have PLC.

I would have to buy either the USB-RJ45 adapters, or an access point. And the adapter is worth less than 9€, besides we do experiments and we don't get bored xD
The problem is that the USB doesn't give electricity, but it's solved with a hub that was in the drawer… it has its own power supply, 2A takes the crap, so it's more than enough that I've already tested it.

Of course yes!! These experiments are the cool ones and keep creativity awake. ;D
That then they don't work…at least they try. But if they work it tastes like the sweetest of victories. :fuckyea:

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