Overclocking Q9450
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it seems that we already have the first bitter person of the year, who doesn't like my answers :troll::troll::troll:
i take it for granted that if asus has the V Turbo and Gigabyte has the OC guru … DFI will have its own
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regardsOff Topic last of this thread.
Without going into whether the answer voted negative is useful or not or whether the person who voted negative is right or not in doing so, Hardlimit is crying from home, because just as when someone votes positive for you, you don't come to comment on it and thank you publicly, when someone votes negative for you, you shouldn't do it either, and much less call anyone a bitter person for doing it. -
One last question, I want to put a probe on the micro i so as not to disassemble the heatsink and the chip. I thought about putting the probe on the plate that connects the micro to the heatsink… I suppose that the values I will obtain will be similar, right?
Greetings
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If I have understood you correctly, you want to put it between the base of the heatsink and the IHS of the micro? It seems like a crazy idea to me, it will raise the temperature if the bases are not in complete contact. Doesn't the sensor that the processor itself has integrated work for you?
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I don't know if I understood that you want to put the probe on the edge of the IHS or on the plate of the socket that holds the CPU because otherwise to do that I would have to disassemble the heatsink, right?
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The metal plate that holds the micro doesn't make sense, it doesn't get hot, or at least not nearly as hot as the micro. If by plate you mean the IHS the only reasonable place would be the side as you say, but it's not easy to get it to stay there and you have to cut the plastic of the probe so that it touches directly.
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this is how it was done before
as of today, you have to check if the heatsink covers the IHS completely; if not, as in my case (a triton 88 on an AMD phenom 9955), you mount it on top of the IHS without touching the heatsink (to avoid having to disassemble it if you remove the heatsink)
if I find the photos from when I did the assembly, I'll upload them; otherwise…
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Back in the day, the athlon xp mobile had the probe placed this way, but now with the Q9450, I can't put it that way because the top part is all smooth. The solution would be to put it under the chip or stick it to the side of the chip and see how it goes... when I have thermal paste, I'll clean the disipator and put new paste on it because the PC is 5 years old and it's time...
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according to these pages
Xigmatek HDT-S1283 Review
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGA_775
inches to cm, cm to inches calculator
i have come to a couple of conclusions
the heatsink uses :- 3 high-performance heat-pipes of 8mm
plus about 2 mm of aluminum between tubes 24+ ( 83) = 32mm +/- 2mm
if according to the wiki a 775 measures 1.471.47 which in mm would be 3737mm
you should have about 37-32=5/2=2.5mm per side
if we take into account this photo
and that the probe cables that i have mounted are 1.5mm (presumably standard measurement) the probe must measure its good 3/4 mm wide considering that the sensor is in the center it would be 2mm and as i said before you must have 2.5mm per side ….. well you have enough space to put the probe in the upper part of the IHS without stepping on it with the heatsink
i have balls what i am capable of doing so as not to disassemble my pc :troll::troll::troll:
regards
- 3 high-performance heat-pipes of 8mm
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according to these pages
Xigmatek HDT-S1283 Review
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGA_775
inches to cm, cm to inches calculator
I have come to a couple of conclusions
the heatsink uses :- 3 high-performance heat-pipes of 8mm
plus about 2 mm of aluminum between tubes 24+ ( 83) = 32mm +/- 2mm
if according to the wiki a 775 measures 1.471.47 which in mm would be 3737mm
you should have about 37-32=5/2=2.5mm per side
if we take into account this photo
and that the probe cables that I have mounted are 1.5mm (supposedly standard measurement) the probe must measure its good 3/4 mm wide considering that the sensor is in the center it would be 2mm and as I said before you must have 2.5mm per side ….. well you have enough space to put the probe in the upper part of the IHS without stepping on it with the heatsink
it takes balls what I am capable of doing in order not to disassemble my pc :troll::troll::troll:
regards
Not to ruin your theory, but in the one I have in my hand the IHS measures 30mm, although the complete processor effectively measures 37mm
- 3 high-performance heat-pipes of 8mm
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ok . ¿cuanto mide la base de el disipador ? algunos son cuadrados y mas grandes que el IHS y otros son rectangulares y un pelo mas pequeños ( de 2 a 4 mm ) si es mas grande el disipador solo tienes dos opciones :
A pegar la sonda en el lateral de el IHS ( complicado , por que si la lamina adhesiva la pegas en la parte superior de el IHS el disipador no asentara todo lo bien que debería y por que tendrias que cortar los laterales de plástico de la sonda para que entre de altura)
B pegar la sonda en la base de el disipador pero no encima de el IHS ( por ejem , si el IHS como dices mide 3030mm y la base de el disipador mide 3434mm ( por decir algo) seria pegarlo en los 2mm de margen que tienes , si puedes desplazarlo para un lado serian 4mm
en mi caso la base de el disipador es rectangular y un poco mas estrecho que el IHS , por tanto la desplace un pelin y pegue la sonda directamente a el IHS . en una grafica GTX280 , como el disipador es mas grande que el IHS pegue la sonda a1mm de el IHS pero en la base de el disipador , con unas temps bastante realistas
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Esto es lo que pasa cuando uno se duerme en los laureles para responder…
! @xoni_VTR:
! > Una ultima pregunta quiero poner una sonda en el micro i para no desmontar el disipador i el chip he pensado poner la sonda en la chapa que une el micro con el disipa… supongo que los valores que obtendré serán parecidos no?Saludos
! ¿A que llamas la chapa que une el micro con el disipador?
Puede ser que te refieras a la chapa que sujeta el micro en el socket y que tiene una palanquita para abrir y cerrar, o si no no se me ocurre a cual chapita te puedes referir.
! Por otro lado, ¿te refieres a una sonda plana verdad? o si no que tipo de sonda quieres colocar?
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si yo siempre e dicho que en la red esta todo …...
buscando la "chapita" para hacer una porra con mi apuesta :troll::troll:
e visto que tu disipador es mas grande que el IHS por lo que yo pegaría la sonda a el propio disipador en la cara inferior ( la que toca con el micro) justo a el lado de el micro ( preferentemente que la sonda quede encima de el aluminio no de el tubo )
en color negro donde yo colocaría la sonda
en color rojo la chapita que creo que dices ( y donde no debes de colocar nada )
el color blanquecino es el area que ocupa el IHS ( un 775 Intel Core 2 Duo E8500)
saludos -
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si yo siempre e dicho que en la red esta todo …...
buscando la "chapita" para hacer una porra con mi apuesta :troll::troll:
e visto que tu disipador es mas grande que el IHS por lo que yo pegaría la sonda a el propio disipador en la cara inferior ( la que toca con el micro) justo a el lado de el micro ( preferentemente que la sonda quede encima de el aluminio no de el tubo )
en color negro donde yo colocaría la sonda
en color rojo la chapita que creo que dices ( y donde no debes de colocar nada )
el color blanquecino es el area que ocupa el IHS ( un 775 Intel Core 2 Duo E8500)
saludosmas o menos donde dices tu.. la he puesto en un lateral
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hola de nuevo,
He tocado un parámetro de la memoria 400/1066 i ahora en la CPUZ me sale DRAM Frequency 533.3Mhz i la relación FSB : DRAM 3/4 entiendo que el sistema ira mas rápido no? hace 40min que va SP2004 i no me ha salido ningún erro i las temperaturas no han superaro los 52º. Todo lo demás es igual.
saludos!
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He tocado un parámetro de la memoria 400/1066 i ahora en la CPUZ me sale DRAM Frequency 533.3Mhz i la relación FSB : DRAM 3/4 entiendo que el sistema ira mas rápido no?
Un poquito sí, ahora al menos las tienes a su velocidad de fábrica.
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oks… era lo que pensaba
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Despues de poner la memoria a 533 –> 400/1066 he mirando los voltajes i tengo los siguentes:
DRAM: 1,925V
Sb Core: 1,510V
Core Voltage: 1,265V
CPU VTT voltage: 1,10VSi dejo todo como esta el ordenador se queda bloqueado... al rato
Entiendo que para ir a 533Mhz tendría de subir el DRAM de 1,925 a 2V no? i sobre subir el voltaje del micro donde lo puedo tocar (subir el 1,265)? que es el CPU VTT?
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Gskill las tiene listadas a 2-2.1V, prueba primero con 2V y si sigue inestable sube a 2.1 a ver que tal.
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Pues he subido el voltaje i sigue igual alfinal he optado por dejarlo asi… tb he tocado el Bus del micro i el ordenador no arranca con mas de 400mhz... supongo que tendre de tocar algun parametro de la placa por ahora lo dejare como esta...
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