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      booker
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      Hello everyone!! I'm going to upgrade my pc and I want to make sure everything goes perfectly. I'm thinking about changing the graphics card since mine has become outdated (gt 220). I have an i5 2400, 8gb RAM and a real 600w aerocool power supply. My doubts are as follows: I want to buy an hd 7950 since I have a budget of 300 € and I want to treat myself, besides they give you bioshock infinite and crysis 3 for free. My doubt is which manufacturer to choose I'm hesitating between these two graphics cards:
      Gigabyte: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7950 3GB GDDR5 WindForce GV-R795WF3-3GD Graphics Card
      Sapphire: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 OC Boost Vapor-X 3GB GDDR5 11196-09-40G Graphics Card
      You can see that the price difference is not really big, and I have always had a good experience with gigabyte but I don't know in this model of graphics card which one is better, that's why I ask you: which one of the 2 would you choose? I guess the gigabyte is cooler, but when playing with them is there really a difference? I don't know, I just want to know which one is better and of higher quality?
      One thing I want to clarify is that I'm still pretty new and for now I just want to install it and start playing like crazy, I say this because of the oc thing and all that, I would do it later when I know better what I'm doing. Right now it would be install and play.
      My other doubt is related to the size of these cards, both measure about 28 cm long, 1 cm up or down. My tower is as follows:
      PRODUCT DETAIL - MS-TECH Technology

      And my motherboard is a p8p67-m.
      And well my doubt is to know if the card will fit without problems, because I have read on the forum and they say that in some towers comes the maximum size of card that can support and well I don't know much about it, that's why I ask you: will the graphics card fit without problems? I hope you can help me, I would be very grateful. Salu2

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        here you have better prices, and some more options,….for N3D I have read very well about the VTX

        Amazon.es: hd7950

        let's see if someone else comes by and comments on Tª, sound quality, and OC

        regards

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          booker @PistonS
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          @PistonS:

          here you have better prices, and some more options,….for N3D I have read very well about the VTX

          Amazon.es: hd7950

          let's see if someone else comes by and comments on Tª, sound quality, and OC

          regards

          Thanks for the reply and for recommending the store.

          Let's see if someone else comes by too to find out if it will fit in the tower and what you've been saying.

          Thanks again and regards.

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            Sylver Veteranos HL @booker
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            Good

            +1 to Amazon, good prices and good customer service.

            You can get the Gigabyte, better cooling always extends the life of the card, although the Sapphire is not far behind.

            Regarding the size, you should measure it yourself on the ground by hand, it's the best, but it should fit. If I put a special edition 5850 in a cheap gaming mid-tower...

            Regards

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              booker @Sylver
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              Thanks for responding sylver.

              I've been looking at the case a bit and the hard drive is about 5 cm below the graphics card.

              I mean if you stand at the height where it will be placed it's 5 cm below so it would fit.

              The problem is that on one side the hard drive is fixed by a kind of red cover and it's 27 cm from the back of the tower. And the graphics card measures 28.5 cm. But I don't know if they measure what the graphics card's plate is or if they measure above the fans. Because the fans are oval-shaped so I think they would fit.

              But the doubt is if by removing the hard drive I could also remove the red cover.

              I know it's a bit confusing and they probably won't know what to answer me. But I'm sharing it in case someone could help me.

              Edit: According to this video at minute 4:00 approx the graphics card measures 27 cm. So maybe just barely but it fits.


              What do you think?
              Thanks anyway!!

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                Sylver Veteranos HL @booker
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                I don't know what exactly the "red cover" is, if you put a picture you would surely illustrate it more easily, but anyway it could be an adapter to fit or some kind of casing, in any case you should be able to remove everything without problems.

                Even so, the important thing is the measurements, and if you think it fits, I don't think there will be any surprises.

                Greetings

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                >> Athlon 64 X2 5600+ Brisbane @2.9GHz || Gigabyte GA-M61PME-S2 || 2x2Gb DDR2 Kingston 800MHz || Sapphire Radeon HD 5850 Xtreme 1Gb || Maxtor 320Gb SATA2 || OCZ ModXStream 500W Modular || TEAC PowerMax 120/2 || Acer X243w 24"
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                  booker @Sylver
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                  Well right now I can't take a picture of it but if I take it out tomorrow you would help me? And this way I can show you a little bit of the tower inside and you can comment.

                  But anyway I will try to explain it as best as I can.

                  The hard drive is not as wide as the tower (obviously) my tower inside is like this:

                  MS-Tech CA-0280 PRO X Furios Longhorn 0 Watt /grijs

                  in the link you can see the photos and there is a photo of the inside and if you look to the right you can see something red between the grilles.

                  Well since the drive is not as wide there is a kind of red cover on one side where the hard drive is screwed in place and the hard drive is left between this cover and the tower's metal.

                  I don't know if you understand me more or less but if not tomorrow I will take some photos and show you if it's not a bother.

                  Thanks really

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                    Sylver Veteranos HL @booker
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                    Alright, that's an adapter for the bay, so it can reach the sides and be secured, you can remove it without any problems, just like I thought.

                    Best regards

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                    >> Athlon 64 X2 5600+ Brisbane @2.9GHz || Gigabyte GA-M61PME-S2 || 2x2Gb DDR2 Kingston 800MHz || Sapphire Radeon HD 5850 Xtreme 1Gb || Maxtor 320Gb SATA2 || OCZ ModXStream 500W Modular || TEAC PowerMax 120/2 || Acer X243w 24"
                    >> Intel Core2Duo E6600 Conroe @2.4GHz || Asus P5N32-SLI SE DELUXE || 2x1Gb DDR2 Kingston 800MHz || Asus nVidia GeForce 9800GT 1Gb GDDR3 || Seagate Barracuda IDE 80Gb 7200RPM || Linkworld LPK12-35 450W

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                      booker @Sylver
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                      Bloody hell without a photo or anything!!

                      Just out of curiosity, how did you figure it out? because I'm not even very clear with the explanations I've given. I only know that the hard drive is screwed to it on one side.

                      So you're saying it can be removed without any problems in case it doesn't fit?

                      Anyway, if I upload a photo tomorrow, would you mind?

                      I'm not very sure if it can be removed. (it's also true that I've only looked at it briefly)

                      edit: I'm still not very clear. Is the bay adapter all of that (I mean the red cover and the plate where the hard drive is screwed) or just the red cover?

                      Thanks and regards

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                        Sylver Veteranos HL @booker
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                        As far as I know and judging by the images on the website, it is a bay adapter and if you say it has a cover, it will be a single piece, but normally the side pieces are independent of each other.

                        If you are not clear, post one or several photos and I will confirm it to you without any problems.

                        Regards

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                        >> Athlon 64 X2 5600+ Brisbane @2.9GHz || Gigabyte GA-M61PME-S2 || 2x2Gb DDR2 Kingston 800MHz || Sapphire Radeon HD 5850 Xtreme 1Gb || Maxtor 320Gb SATA2 || OCZ ModXStream 500W Modular || TEAC PowerMax 120/2 || Acer X243w 24"
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                          booker @Sylver
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                          Yes I think it should be possible to remove it but the bad thing is that I don't know how. Anyway tomorrow afternoon-evening I will upload some photos with that area in question so that you can see it and tell me how to proceed and with the rest of the team so that you can see how it is distributed and recommend me to put that graphic. Thank you again for your attention and tomorrow I will upload the photos and you can comment. Thanks again sylver!!
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                              booker @booker
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                              Well here I have the photos of the inside of my pc.

                              Right now I have it with a gt 440 and a generic power supply because my power supply is in my brother's pc and my original card broke. I hope you can see the red cover of the hard drive well.

                              By the way in the end I will go for the sapphire hd 7950 vapor-x.

                              I hope you give me your opinion that can help me. Thank you very much in advance.


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                                it doesn't paint well or badly :troll: normally when a manufacturer makes you a piece in two colors it means that one can be disassembled ;D what I don't understand is why the one at the back is the removable :nono: anyway the most likely thing is that you measure with a tape measure the space available and if it doesn't fit ….. you use a drill and a saw (to remove the bottom bracket of the hard drives)
                                regards
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                                  booker @Franziskaner
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                                  Thanks for the reply Franziskaner.

                                  I'm going to measure everything properly and see if it fits. If it doesn't fit by 1 cm or so, how could I remove that red cover to change the hard drive's location? I can't see any screws or anything :S

                                  By the way, my brother always takes care of assembling the PC, but he's going to be traveling for a while, and I only have one question about assembling the graphics card and my power supply.

                                  When changing the power supply again and connecting everything, in the first photo of the 2 below (there are 3 above and 2 below) that I posted, there's a black cable that goes to the case cover. There are 2 fans there and that cable is the one that powers them. Well, how can I remove that adapter that connects to the fans? I've tried pulling it out by the middle, but it's hard and I'm afraid to pull like an animal and mess it up.

                                  Thanks and regards

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                                    @booker:

                                    Thanks for the reply Franziskaner.

                                    I'm going to measure everything well and see if it fits. If it doesn't fit by 1 cm or so how could I remove that red cover to change the hard drive location? I can't see any screws or anything :S

                                    By the way the issue of assembling the PC is always handled by my brother but he's going to be traveling for a while and to assemble the graphics card and my power supply I only have one doubt.

                                    When changing the power supply again and connecting everything, in the first photo of the 2 below (there are 3 above and 2 below) that I've posted there's a black cable that goes to the case cover. There are 2 fans there and that cable is the one that powers them. Well that adapter that connects to the fans how can I remove it? I've tried pulling it out by the middle but it's hard and I'm afraid to pull like an animal and mess it up.

                                    Thanks and regards

                                    I'm going to measure everything well and see if it fits. If it doesn't fit by 1 cm or so how could I remove that red cover to change the hard drive location? I can't see any screws or anything :S

                                    as a rule they use rivets, you could use a drill to "eat" the head (they are usually aluminum)

                                    When changing the power supply again and connecting everything, in the first photo of the 2 below (there are 3 above and 2 below) that I've posted there's a black cable that goes to the case cover. There are 2 fans there and that cable is the one that powers them. Well that adapter that connects to the fans how can I remove it? I've tried pulling it out by the middle but it's hard and I'm afraid to pull like an animal and mess it up.

                                    that's a four pin molex, they tend to be a bit hard, don't pull on the cables ;D do the "señorita", reverse and it will come out for sure.
                                    regards
                                    P.D ask anything

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                                      booker @Franziskaner
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                                      @Franziskaner:

                                      I'm going to measure everything properly and see if it fits. If it doesn't fit by 1 cm or so, how could I remove that red cover to change the hard drive's location? I can't see any screws or anything :S

                                      As a rule, they use rivets. You can use a drill to "eat" the head (they are usually aluminum)

                                      When it comes to changing the power supply again and connecting everything, in the first photo of the 2 below (there are 3 above and 2 below) that I posted, there is a black cable that goes to the case cover. There are 2 fans there and that cable is the one that powers them. So, how can I remove that adapter that connects to the fans? I've tried pulling it out by the middle but it's hard and I'm afraid to pull like an animal and mess it up.

                                      That's a four-pin molex, they usually come out a bit hard, don't pull on the cables ;D do the "Miss" trick, reverse it and it will come out safely.
                                      Regards
                                      P.D. Ask anything

                                      First of all, thank you for replying.

                                      Yes, I realized that they do come with rivets (at least the outside part, I couldn't reach the red cover part) Let's see if I remove the graphics card I have now and measure everything properly and comment.

                                      Regarding the molex. The truth is that it is indeed hard but I don't know what you mean by "Miss". I thought that maybe you had to press some kind of trigger or something for it to come out. If you could explain the process better, I would appreciate it.

                                      And another thing about the graphics card, what's your opinion? Since you're helping me, I'd like to know your opinion.

                                      Thank you very much for everything, really, forgive my novice doubts ?

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                                        chispis @booker
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                                        I think if you remove the other cover of the tower, you will see the screws
                                        http://www.hartware.de/review_1451_4.html

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                                          Franziskaner @chispis
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                                          @chispis:

                                          I think if you remove the other cover of the tower, you will see the screws
                                          http://www.hartware.de/review_1451_4.html

                                          +1
                                          greetings

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                                            booker @Franziskaner
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                                            Well in the end you were right.

                                            On the red cover when I opened it on the other side it said "remove for a long card" so it was already prepared for it I removed it and ready any graphics card fits now.

                                            And I also managed to remove the fan, it was a bit tight but it came out well. Thanks for helping me too

                                            By the way which graphics card do you recommend? the sapphire hd 7950 vapor-x or the gigabyte hd 7950?

                                            Thanks for responding, regards!!

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