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I would start with micro, if you don't want OC you can go for a 3570 or a 3470 if you see that the savings are worth it.
I suppose you will have the 9700 NT which is not compatible with 1155, if you want to take advantage of it you can buy an ASRock motherboard that has mounts for 775. If you opt for OC it's almost better to get a new cooler, the micro should be the 3570K and the motherboard Z77.
The RAM if it's only for gaming should be 2x4GB economical.
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hello and welcome
if you can update the whole system, if not, then update the GPU, a 660 or 760 would be good
here you have a guide to help you
greetingsThanks :D!!! my idea is to update the whole system but first I'll go for CPU/RAM/MOTHERBOARD and then the GPU, according to your opinion is the 660 a good jump compared to the 295?
What budget do you have?, because to play games like Crysis 3 if you only change the graphics card for a new one the processor will limit the performance noticeably; perhaps in other games it will be less noticeable, but you will need an update. You can always change the graphics card first and in a few months the CPU, motherboard and RAM.
The rest of the components like power supply, case, disks, reader, etc. you don't have to change them although an SSD would also be a good purchase now that there are good models not as expensive as before. In what you will notice the most the difference in performance will be in the graphics, CPU and SSD.
I thought about changing the rest and then the GPU lol, what CPU options can you give me?
I would start with the CPU, if you don't want to OC you can go for an 3570 or a 3470 if you see that the savings are worth it.
I suppose you have the 9700 NT which is not compatible with 1155, if you want to take advantage of it you can buy an ASRock motherboard that has mounts for 775. If you opt for OC almost better that you get a new cooler, the CPU should be the 3570K and the motherboard Z77.
The RAM if it's just for gaming that they are 2x4GB economical.
Well in reality I've seen that the 3570 has the same performance in games as the 3770, is that true?
now according to what I see the K series can be OC'd, is it really necessary in these CPUs? because if so I could save a lot of money on the cooler and the CPU, according to this answer what motherboard could I buy, I had looked at the ASRock Extreme6 Z77, how do you see it?
or what can you recommend to notice an improvement according to my current configuration
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Man changing the CPU but with the same graphics you won't notice much difference, it's more logical to do it the other way around so you can play earlier; that's right you don't change everything at once.
I repeat that if you tell us what budget or what range you're looking for we can help you, if not you have some good guides pinned there
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A guy changes the CPU but with the same graphics card you won't notice much difference, it's more logical to do it the other way around so you can play earlier; that is, don't change everything at once.
I repeat that if you tell us your budget or what range you're looking for we can help you, otherwise you have some good guides pinned there
it's that I've looked at the VGAs and with what I would buy one, I'll buy all the other components, I have considered a budget of about 750 USD as a MAXIMUM and a minimum of 600 USD for the motherboard, RAM, CPU, etc. That's a lot if I have extra, then I'll spend it on the VGA, for this I consider about 400/500 USD plus what I can save from the rest
maybe it's a lot but in the times I built the one I have I spent more or less this as you can see?
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It reaches you, but you should spend more on the graphics. Let's say at least 200-300 for the graphics, 150 for the card, 200 CPU and 100 for RAM; and you still have some left over so you could get a 660ti-670 or a 7950-70. I calculate in €, I don't know how the real conversion is from what it costs in $.PS. And if you want to spend a little more you can go for an i7 instead of the i5 and buy an SSD, and if there's anything left you can upgrade the graphics range to a 680 but there you will definitely be throwing money away, it's better to upgrade before you spend a lot and throw away many years, without a doubt. This is of course assuming you use a single monitor.
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I don't know how easy it will be for you to find ASRock motherboards, but I haven't seen many on MercadoLibre. Check out what's available on this website:
Corsair Hydro Series H100i 240mm Liquid Cooler for Amd Intel - $1,849.99 on MercadoLibre
Intel Core I5 3570k Processor Lga1155 3.4 Ghz 5gt/s 6mb Mmu - $3,670.00 on MercadoLibre
Ga-z77-d3h Motherboard Socket 1155 Gigabyte - $2,200.00 on MercadoLibre
Patriot Viper 3 8gb (2x4gb) 1600 Ddr3 Ram - $999.00 on MercadoLibreI've also seen a package that might be more cost-effective for you:
Premium Upgrade Kit Core I5 3570k + Ga-z77-d3h +4gb - $5,680.00 on MercadoLibre
Sell the memory if that ends up being cheaper for you ;D
All in all, at the exchange rate, it's about 600 USD.
Editing: Bm4n, I think the 200€ CPU and 100€ GPU is better for me to play Guild Wars in World vs World with hundreds of players :ugly:
Although the GPU is more noticeable than the CPU, some games require 4 cores, especially on older CPUs. Where I splurged was on the GPU, and the GPU market is more volatile.
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You get it, but you should spend more on the graphics. Let's say at least 200-300 for the graphics, 150 for the motherboard, 200 CPU and 100 for RAM; and you still have some left over so you could get a 660ti-670 or a 7950-70. I calculate in €, I don't know how the real conversion is from what it costs in $.
PS. And if you want to spend a bit more you can go for an i7 instead of the i5 and buy an SSD, and if there's anything left you can upgrade the graphics range to a 680 but there you will definitely be throwing money away in my opinion, it's better to upgrade before you spend a lot and throw away many years, without a doubt. This of course is talking about using a single monitor.
the 400-500 USD to euros are like 300-380 and seeing the prices I feel it's a lot jajaja 200/300 euros is fine
from what I see the i7 compared to the i5 don't have much difference in games since the differences it has don't benefit the games, how do you see it?
do you think the 670 is my best option? not from the 700 range
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Gigabyte Nvidia Geforce Gtx 760 2gb Ddr5 Hdmi Gv-n760oc-2gd - $ 4,759.00 en MercadoLibre
this VGA is at a good price but I have some doubts
according to what I see, the core of this runs faster than the 670, the only difference is that the 670 has more CUDA cores compared to the 760, and in performance, the 670 comes out on top, according to me, the most important thing was the clock speed if everything else is equal, then which one is better and does it matter so much the CUDA cores?
PD how much does the memory influence? I see that there is an EVGA of 2gb and another of 4gb of the same model
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the 760 is the "evolution" of the 660 and the 670 was a model superior to the 660
comparative to the song
AnandTech | Bench - GPU13
it's like comparing a 275 with your 295
regards
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según veo los i7 a comparacion de los i5 no tienen mucha diferencia en juegos ya que las diferencias que tiene no sacan beneficio los juegos, como ves?
crees que la 670 e mi mejor opcion? de la gama 700 no
No, no hay demasiada diferencia entre el i5 y el i7 en juegos.
No, realmente la 760 está bien y la 770 se dispara de precio claro que también rinde lo suyo; lo bueno es que hay algunas ofertas para liquidar las 6xx si das con una sería lo más interesante. Mas o menos 660ti<760<670<680<770, se rumorea con la 760ti que sería algo intermedio entre la 760 y la 770.
Y en ATI tienes las 7950 y 7970 que están bastante bien.
@Obione esos vicios malsanos :ugly: los RPG siempre dando por saco con las optimizaciones.
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we already have everything clearer, now what do you think about the motherboard? someone told me that I could use my Zalman on a specific motherboard for an i5? is that possible? or would I have to buy a cooler?
and the last question, the RAM? what do I have to consider? I remember something about speed and latency, but I can't remember, what brand is good?
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Corsair, Patriot or Kingston are good for RAM, the motherboards on which you can mount your cooler are the ASRock ones but, if you go for a 3570K it wouldn't be a bad idea to buy a quality cooler or even a liquid cooling kit.
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Corsair, Patriot or Kingston are good for RAM, the boards where you can mount your cooler are the ASRock ones but, if you go for a 3570K it would not be a bad idea to buy a quality cooler or even a liquid cooling kit.
ok, that cooler worked well for me on my E8400 so if I choose the z77 extreme4 will it be fine?
I almost have the new set ready
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The RAM is the usual amount, speed and latency (which really don't matter much lately); from brands like Corsair, GSkill… Or you have the bracket for that socket there (it's the same in all models of boards) or you'll have to buy the bracket (if it exists,?) or a new heatsink. PD. Are all Asrock ones that have holes for the 775?, I couldn't remember.
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is it better to have one 8gb ram module or two 4gb ones? or does it only matter for expansion and convenience?
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is 8gb of ram better than two 4gb modules? or does it only matter for expansion and convenience?
if you install two identical modules you get dual channel (in sockets 1/3 2/4) if not, you only get single channel.
in short, if you install an 8 GB module you will have 8 Gb in single channel, if you install two 4 Gb (and you install them in slots 1/3 or 2/4) you will have dual channel (which is better) the difference is that if you install 4 Gb modules and you expand the ram in the future you can have a maximum of 16 GB and if you install one 8 Gb and you expand you will have 16 GB expandable to 32 GB (which is unnecessary for normal use, nowadays)
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si montas dos módulos iguales tienes dual chanel ( en los zócalos 1/3 2/4 ) si no, solo tendrás singel chanel .
resumiendo si montas un modulo de 8 GB tendrás 8 Gb en single chanel, si montas dos de 4 Gb ( y los montas en los slots 1/3 o 2/4 ) tendrás dual chanel ( que es mejor ) la diferencia es que si montas módulos de 4 Gb y el día de mañana amplias la ram como máximo podrás tener 16 GB y si montas uno de 8 Gb y amplias tendrás 16 GB ampliables a 32 GB ( cosa que para uso normal es innecesario , hoy en dia )
saludos
P.D si el PC es para jugar compra dos módulos idénticos de 4GBperdon hablando de la RAM, que tanto influye la de la tarjeta de video? hay versiones de 2gb y de 4gb de la misma, que tanta diferencia tendria?
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si montas dos módulos iguales tienes dual chanel ( en los zócalos 1/3 2/4 ) si no, solo tendrás singel chanel .
resumiendo si montas un modulo de 8 GB tendrás 8 Gb en single chanel, si montas dos de 4 Gb ( y los montas en los slots 1/3 o 2/4 ) tendrás dual chanel ( que es mejor ) la diferencia es que si montas módulos de 4 Gb y el día de mañana amplias la ram como máximo podrás tener 16 GB y si montas uno de 8 Gb y amplias tendrás 16 GB ampliables a 32 GB ( cosa que para uso normal es innecesario , hoy en dia )
saludos
P.D si el PC es para jugar compra dos módulos idénticos de 4GBCoño. Eso mismo puse yo hace unos dias en el post de otro chico…...:osvaisacagar:
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perdon hablando de la RAM, que tanto influye la de la tarjeta de video? hay versiones de 2gb y de 4gb de la misma, que tanta diferencia tendria?
pues ahora si que me pierdo :facepalm:
estas preguntando sobre la relación de la memoria RAM con la gráfica ¿? o sobre las tarjetas de video que venden en dos o tres versiones de memoria 1GB 2 Gb 3GB 4 GB
si preguntas por lo segundo con una de 2 GB vas sobrado , si preguntas otra cosa ….. especifica algo mas .
saludos
