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      tremen
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      Hello,
      I wanted to know your opinion about the team I have been setting up for gaming. Basically it will be for playing driving simulators like rfactor2, rbr, project cars, etc.. and battle field 4..

      Later I will add 3 monitors..

      Custom budget. PcComponentes.com

      what do you think? would you improve something? the budget initially was 800€.. but after looking and looking, if one component didn't slacken.. another one did.. so I have tried to put together a good and balanced team.. without problems of fps drops..

      I look forward to your comments.

      thanks

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        I recommend this motherboard: ASUS M5A97 EVO R2.0 It's around 80 EUR and it's pretty decent. You don't need the 990FX chip for a single-card setup.

        The micro better than the 8320, it's about 30 EUR cheaper than the 8350 and as it comes unlocked you can overclock it to the 8350's frequencies without any problem. The 8320 goes to 3.5 but easily goes up to 4.0-4.2 then it's just a matter of luck and a good liquid ¬¬

        With these two things you already save a fortune. ;D

        And I would use that saving on a better graphics card like the 280X with 3 Gigabytes. The 270 with 4 Gigabytes... well those 4 gigabytes aren't worth much, since the graphics card isn't top of the range and with several monitors it will struggle. Watch out for several monitors or you mount 2 graphics cards or don't expect to play games like BF4 with 3 monitors.

        Power supply, I prefer this one: Corsair TX650M 650W Modular

        You can put some slower memory, you won't notice much difference and you'll save some money too.

        And I almost forgot, this cooler is good, nice and cheap: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO in case you don't want to put a liquid one in the end.

        Let's see what the colleagues say.

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          tremen @amd125
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          thanks amd125,
          I'll tell you and you can rebut me if you think it's necessary:

          I was thinking about a 990FX motherboard basically because of the speed of the system bus, which from 97 to 99 is 4.8GT/s vs 5.2 GT/s.. It doesn't have to be the sabertooth, but as it substantially improves cooling.. that's why I chose it, but I can go down in model.. to a pro or evo..

          Regarding the micro, I prefer the 8350 in case I decide to OC it so that it's overkill.. for 30€ more.. maybe it's worth it..

          For the memory to save 9€.. I'd rather have these and be able to make the most of it.. wouldn't I?

          Regarding the graphics card you're absolutely right.. I'll look at the 280x. could I move 3 monitors well with this? regarding gaming.. I don't really care about not being able to play with the 3 monitors in battlefield.. but for car simulators.. yes.
          Or better 2 270x cards in crossfire? to be honest.. this option goes way over my budget…

          After reading about the benefits of liquid cooling... without so much noise and keeping the micro at lower and more stable temperatures... I think it's a good investment.

          how do you see it?

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            amd125 Veteranos HL @tremen
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            Hello:

            The motherboard I recommend is cheaper and will make the micro perform well. You don't need a better motherboard. This Asus is well cooled, so you won't have any problems. Many people who have an FX use this motherboard, there's a reason for that. I'm not trying to convince you, unless you want to build a Dual graphics system now or in the future, then I don't say anything. But for a single graphics card this motherboard is good without going over budget. Some Gigabyte have temperature problems, this Asus doesn't. But before buying think if for example now you can't, but if in the future you will install a second graphics card.

            The 8320 and 8350 micro is the same processor, that's it. The 8320 doesn't go lower, it just has a lower multiplier. But there's no rule that says the 8350 can go higher. I would buy the 8320 and put the multiplier of the 8350 on it. It's really not complex and if you put a liquid cooling it will be cool. If you buy the 8320 as long as you don't get lazy you can overclock it to 4.2 and if the liquid cooling is good and the micro is good, you will reach 4.4-4.5. However if you buy the 8350 don't expect it to go much higher. It already comes very forced from the factory.

            You're right about the memory, you'll save little.

            The graphics. I haven't played the games you mentioned, so I would recommend looking up on the internet how they perform with the graphics card you are going to buy with 3 monitors. Keep in mind that 3 Full HD monitors is a lot of resolution, and I can't help you with multi-monitor setups, but I would say that with your budget little more can be done.

            BF4 takes advantage of the 8 cores of the FX very well, however some games don't, and for that reason they perform better on an Intel I5. I think the FX is a good micro, good price, motherboards cheaper than Intel's, and in the future more games will take advantage of 8 cores. I think that as raw power the I7 6-core are better, but they have excessive prices for most mortals.

            To be over-equipped you would have to build an Intel I7 and a Dual graphics system and that would make the computer much more expensive. Also for playing with 3 monitors 3 Gigas of Ram may be close to the limit, but as I mentioned, 4 Gigas are good if the graphics card is powerful, if not it doesn't matter.

            I found this web where some people use multimonitor and talk about their configurations for the car game you mentioned: Graphics recommendations for rFactor2 [Archive] - Page 2 - rFactorNews.com

            I hope I can help you. You can also look for videos on Youtube of people using three monitors.

            Sometimes Dual graphics systems perform better than a single top-of-the-range one, but to build two graphics cards they must be at least decent, don't build two low-powered graphics cards that you won't do miracles.

            I hope that some fellow who has several monitors or plays those games can help you.

            Best regards.

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              tremen @amd125
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              Thank you very much for your comments.. of course they will make me consider some components.. perhaps I will go down to the board you indicate and get a bigger graphics card..

              I will look at the multimonitor website..

              thank you very much Amd125
              best regards,

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                amd125 Veteranos HL @tremen
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                As I indicate, in the long run, for 3-monitor systems, all power falls short, so it is not a bad option to buy a motherboard that supports two graphics in case you expand in the future, but this will make you need a more powerful power supply :wall: so think about what you will do in the future. Well, mounting some graphics in dual systems may require power supplies of more than 700-800W and I am talking about quality power supplies that exceed 100€. You will also need a well-cooled case… so as you can see, it is better to think exactly what you want now and if in the future you will put a second graphics card.

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                  tremen @amd125
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                  well.. from what I've read on the forum.. what you've told me, they're moving the 3 monitors well with cards like that.. ?

                  I'll keep looking into the matter.. ?

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                    You'll generally run CrossfireX better with a 4570, but if it's just BF4, the micro compensates, the FX x8 performs like an i7. With a Corsair TX/RM650, you won't be over-provisioned, but it would be enough for the i5, with the FX strained, you should go for the 750W one, which isn't much more. If you don't want to bother with CrossfireX, the FX-8320 will come out a bit cheaper along with a 970A-UD3, it's not a sin to go for a 280X if you're not very demanding with BF4, you'll run the simulators well.

                    In any case, if you go for an FX with moderate OC or an i5, I would mount a 212 EVO instead of the Crosair Hydro and if you want more OC, a HR-02 in a wider case. If you think you might need more than 1TB, go for 2 teras, you'll get a better price/mega.

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                      tremen @Obione
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                      hello obione, thanks for your comments.
                      I'll tell you.. in the original config I put a corsair 750W modular, the big doubt is the motherboard.. I don't understand why you recommend the 970 vs 990.. given the difference in terms of system bus speed.. 4.8GT/s vs 5.2 GT/s.. and improving the data flow on the motherboard.. it seems essential to me.. right?

                      Regarding the graphics.. I agree.. I'll upgrade to a 780x, I'll notice more difference than not upgrading from an 8320 to an 8350..

                      regards

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