[Help] Intel Core i7 3930K + Asus Rampage IV Extreme
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I've managed to get it up to 1.48 and it's not stable for me either. But how can there be a 10 degree difference between one core and another? I've changed the paste 3 times, with different application methods in case that was the problem. But nothing has changed. I have two triple radiators with Scythe Gentle Typhoons at 1800. I'm thinking about putting a Peltier exchanger in the middle. To lower the liquid temperature.
The temperature difference may be due to the HIS, the plate that covers the processor. It may be more curved than normal, which could be the reason for the temperature difference.
Try tightening the block more on one corner than the other, until you find a point where that difference isn't so great. Even so, I don't know if it will be solved. Be careful in the process so you don't tighten it too much........
Putting a Peltier cell in will lower the temperature, but it's a hassle. I know it for cases of overclocking and for benchmarking, but for 24/7 I don't know how it will go.
Best regards...
P.D. Honestly, I wouldn't worry about a Peltier. Try to lower that temperature less frequently, or with another block. What block do you have??
But I wouldn't put a Peltier in....
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Today I was tempted to push mine a bit, 5 Ghz, and memos to 2500 CL10. It would be interesting to see how far these Platinums go.!!! The processor can lower the voltage, but in order to be able to raise the bus and consequently the memory, I need that.
Salu2…
Yours and my brother's look a bit alike jeje
Un Saludete!
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You and my brother's look alike jeje
Best regards!
Ehhhhhhhh…..!!!!
Congratulations on my behalf, piece of Overclock, yes, they look like they're from the same batch............ ;).
I get "yuyu" (scared) when I pass the psychological barrier of 1.50. But seeing that screenshot, I'm going to pass psychology the way I know how...............xD.:troll::troll:
Best regards..!!
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Well, now all the screws on the block are tightened evenly. The block is the EK HF Supreme. What worries me is that if you increase the voltage, the temperature soars. The block can't control it like the others. It must not be making good contact. In the end, I won't have to worry about it much, it's not until September that it will be released on Ivi Bridge-E. -
Well, now all the pins on the block are even. The block is the EK HF Supreme. What worries me is that if you increase the voltage, the temperature shoots up. The block can't control it like the others. It must not be making good contact. In the end, I won't lose much sleep over it, it's not until September that it will be released on Ivi Bridge-E.
I mentioned the block to you because I noticed an improvement when I changed the EK for the Koolance 780, just 5 degrees, but hey, something is something.
Another option is to "lap" the processor. It consists of sanding the HIS, with the idea that the heat transfer will be more effective, eliminating the imperfections it comes with, such as those possible curves.
Lapear CPU, like any process that involves modifying a CPU, voids the warranty, but the gain in some cases is quite good.
I have a Q6600 and a Q6700 lapped and they are still in the kids' PCs, holding their own....
Marc, really, don't worry about it anymore and enjoy the beast............at 4.5 Ghz, you have plenty of processing power. Maybe the problem isn't with the processor, what pump are you using?
Best regards...
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I use the Laing D5 variable. But I already told you that it doesn't give me any more headaches. It stays like this. In September I will change it for the Ivi Bridge.
Thanks bichin!!!!!!!!!!!! You are the best
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I use the Laing D5 variable. But I already told you that it doesn't give me any more headaches. It stays like this. In September I will change it for the Ivi Bridge.
Thanks bichin!!!!!!!!!!!! You are the best
At what speed do you have it? Remember that in an RL circuit, the flow rate is as important as the speed at which that liquid passes through it. I have the CPU at 4, and in my system it works well.
You're welcome…..........., I think you're doing your best.......... ;).
A hug, transanlactico........xD
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Well I have it maxed out, I think it's 5. The previous CPU I had before wasn't stable with the settings it has now, but it did have more balanced temps. As far as I understand the chip only occupies the central part from top to bottom. Everything else is in the air. That's why many recommend placing a line of paste in the center from top to bottom and placing the block or radiator. Always applying more pressure in the center than on the sides. But as I say I've tried both ways, placing a central line of paste and the other is to spread all the paste on the CPU. I've gotten the same result. It may have some curvature, but I haven't checked that. While gaming they do stay balanced, between 54 and 58 degrees. They don't reach 60. Frequency 4.8 and voltage at 1.44V. CPU VTT and VCSSA do support low. For the memory at 2400 I have them at 1.12V it's the minimum for it to be stable. Saludos
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I know this topic is somewhat old but I need a little help with my oc rig, I have increased the frequency of my ram to 2133mhz so by default it has increased the multiplier to 3.8ghz right now I am trying to oc to 4.5ghz it starts windows but when I run the prime95 program the pc shuts down, what could be missing would it be increasing the voltage, the current voltage is at 1.350volt..
I think the issue is that when the cores are stressed the temperature rises to the top so it enters a protection stage and the pc shuts down to prevent damage to the equipment.
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What has happened is that my cpu is connected to a power stabilizer so I have realized I have plugged the cpu and the tv in the same place so it has not supported it because it has low watts, right now I am testing at 4.4ghz at 1.304V and it has reached 74 degrees maximum the hottest core for about 18 minutes I think I can lower the voltage to get a better temperature although I don't know if I should stay with this one.
I have opted for the 4.4 because when I put 4.5 it gets too hot it reaches 77 to 78 degrees and from my point of view those temps are no longer normal for 24/7
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I have enabled xmp and set everything to auto, I only changed the multiplier to 40 to see how much vCore it used and according to the image it uses up to 1.360volt I think it is very high no? Previously it was at an oc of 43 ghz but with the factory ram at 1866 mhz but now I wanted to oc it a little and reach 2133, what I have also noticed is that for example when setting the vCore manually when running prime 95 after a few minutes some cores start to lower the percentage of load according to temp core, what is this due to? In my opinion I think it is to keep the cores stable at a level? Another thing also since I am here I wanted to ask also if someone can explain to me what does load line calibration and offset mode in vCore do and affect, <:( what also intrigues me a little is the question of voltages when I set everything to auto and the micro is at rest it uses less voltage but if I modify and set a default value the voltage when turning on the pc and being in idle mode already consumes that amount of vCore put, is this normal? or will there be an option to activate that at the moment that it is not at 100% load it can use the least possible voltage
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I have activated xmp and set everything to auto, I only changed the multiplier to 40 to see how much vCore I was using and according to the image it uses up to 1.360volt I think that is very high, right? Previously it was at an oc of 43 ghz but with the factory ram at 1866 mhz but now I wanted to oc it a little and reach 2133, I have also noticed that for example when I set the vcore manually when running prime 95 after a few minutes some cores start to lower the percentage of load according to temp core, what is this due to? In my opinion I think it is to keep the cores stable at a level? Another thing also since I am here I wanted to ask also if someone can explain to me what it does or affects when touching load line calibration and offset mode in vCore, <:( what also intrigues me a little is the question of voltages when I set everything to auto and the micro is at rest it uses less voltage but if I modify and put a default value the voltage when turning on the pc and being in idle mode already consumes that amount of vcore put, is this normal? or will there be an option to activate that at the moment that it is not at 100% load it can use the least possible voltage
Hello gamingpy,
It is normal that when you put the vcore to auto it gets too high, this is done by all the boards, the best is to leave it in manual. You should also know that when you increase the memory frequency, the processor will ask for more voltage. Since the memory controller is in the cpu, and forcing more frequency asks for more voltage.
The fact that it lowers the load is for the same reason. In auto, the processor lowers the load to protect itself.
Load Line calibration, is the amount of voltage that enters the vrm. We will put a high value if the oc is high. But this also heats up the vrm and the processor more, leave it in Auto for your OC.
If you put a vcore in manual, it will always maintain that vcore. Effectively there is a way so that it does not do that and lowers vcore when it is not under load. It is through the Offset. But I can not help you there. I always deactivate energy savings as soon as I oc a processor….... manias... ;).
Best regards
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Hello gamingpy,
It is normal for the vcore to be set too high when set to auto. All motherboards do this. It is best to leave it in manual. You should also know that when you increase the memory frequency, the processor will ask for more voltage. Since the memory controller is on the CPU, and when you force a higher frequency, it asks for more voltage.
The reason why the load decreases is the same. When in auto, the processor decreases the load to protect itself.
Load Line calibration is the amount of voltage that goes into the VRMs. We will set a high value if the OC is high. But this also heats up the VRMs and the processor more. Leave it in Auto for your OC.
If you set a vcore in manual, it will always stay that vcore. Indeed, there is a way to prevent it from doing that and lower the vcore when it is not under load. It is through the Offset. But I can't help you with that. I always disable power savings as soon as I OC a processor... manias... ;).
Best regards
Thank you very much Jotole for the time and dedication to my problem. I really appreciate it. Thanks to you, I am reinforcing my OC knowledge. I have been reading a lot about the offset mode and I think it is worth doing it to release some heat to the micro in the future. Thank you and goodbye ;D
P.D. Is it true or false that increasing the CPU voltage beyond what the manufacturer has indicated damages the processor, even if temperatures remain stable?
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Many thanks Jotole for the time and dedication to my problem, I really appreciate it. Thanks to you, I am reinforcing my OC knowledge. I have been reading a lot about the offset mode and I think it is worth doing it to release some heat to the micro later on. Thanks and goodbye ;D
P.D. Is it true or false that increasing the CPU voltage beyond what the manufacturer has indicated damages the processor, even if temperatures remain stable?
The thing is that manufacturers give conservative voltages. I remember that with an Intel Q6600 it said a maximum of 1.35v and I put up to 1.60v and I put it almost at 4000 MHz. That CPU still works perfectly. It has been running for years at 3400 or 3600, exceeding that voltage, not much but something. That's why in the end, other things influence more, like how cool it is or not to stress it with benchmark tests with insane voltages, and I'm already talking about a significant margin above what the manufacturer says. The architecture also influences, some degrade faster than others.
Load line is a control for Vdroop. Vdroop is when you put 1.35v and you put a load on the CPU and it goes down to 1.30v, for example. That's also what Jotole says. The higher the OC and frequency, the more you need a high load line so that the voltage does not go below the values you put in the Bios. Before, in older motherboards, there was only one load line or Vdroop control. Now, in new motherboards, you have several modes. With the new ones in the highest mode, it usually maintains a voltage above the voltage you put in the Bios. It does this when the CPU needs it most to maintain stability, that is, when it works at full capacity and with significant OC.
I have never used Offset, but it is a way to control the voltage. That is, if you put 1.40v in the Bios and leave the saving options, the Offset is for when the frequency goes down and the CPU does not work much, the voltage should go down. This was done before with speedstep and C1E, but now you can indicate it yourself, the voltage you want to have when the CPU does not need to work much. I think that's it and I'm not even sure.
regards
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Updating overclock thread i7 3930k to 4.2
Ram memory to 1.6 Volt 2133 mhz
Overclock mode Offset - 0.150 Volt Stable 30 Minutes of OCCT LinPack
CPU Voltage 1.265 then Offset -
Load Line Calibration: High
CPU Current Capability: 120%
CPU Power Phase Control: Optimized
CPU: Spread Spectrum: Disabled1866mhz RAM memory I have set to 2133 with timing 11-11-11-30-2 Volt 1.6
Any advice and/or questions are welcome, besides that I wanted to ask something else out of context that has to do with the micro but that if it has to do with the Overclock it is about the graphics currently I have the modified BIOS of Skynet to 1225 mhz with 1.2 Volt stable my question is as follows can you change a BIOS for another distant one? that is the BIOS version is different I wanted to put the one from svl7 because according to a friend from that forum he told me that this BIOS works better using the application of nvidia Inspector which even some have reached surprising results at 13000mhz, the doubt is that according to what I have seen the modified BIOS of svl7 is of a different version to mine, hence the question will I be able to flash my graphics with a different version of BIOS? I have also read that some killed their graphics for having flashed with a BIOS of a different version (Old Forums)
PD. What I do not understand is why when activating the offset mode the voltage does not go down when the CPU is in idle mode it always maintains the voltage 1.240 volt according to CPUZ
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Is it stable? If it is, that's the important thing, the memory should go to 1.65v, maybe that will allow you to lower the vcore a bit, I would leave the CPU power phase Auto, in these boards I think you shouldn't touch too many things and the optimized is more for energy saving, it could destabilize the OC although your OC is small and should be easy to keep stable.
Also, I leave the loadline Auto, although I don't have a board from that platform, maybe it's similar, I have a maximus VI, but in Auto it works well, to see it you could monitor voltage if for example in Windows you have 1.26v and when you enter OCCT it goes down, then possibly you have to put Loadline, if you see that the voltage is maintained or it goes down very little, then it's better to leave it Auto.
regards
