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    Intel Z97 motherboards... SATA Express is coming

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    • EspinetenbolasE Desconectado
      Espinetenbolas Veteranos HL
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      It seems that Intel has decided to "refresh" the Z87 and add the expected SATA Express among others.

      This 9th series of chipsets seems to be launched for the new "Intel Devil’s Canyon" which, among other improvements, seems to solve the TIM (Thermal Interface) problems that the current "Haswell" suffer
      (we are going to be cooler because they will work harder to put the IHS right)

      Dates?… May 11 for boards and micros... the K series (unlocked micros) June 2.

      Here are a few galleries:

      **ASUS Z97 Motherboards - LEGACY Z97-Deluxe, Z97-A, Z97-WS, Z97I Plus Mini ITX Detailed

      ASRock Z97 Motherboards Exposed - Z97 OC OC Formula, Z97 Extreme 6, FATAL1TY Z97X Killer, Z97E-ITX /AC Detailed

      Gigabyte Z97 Motherboards Unveiled - GA-Z97X-G1 Gaming Wi-Fi Black Edition and GA-Z97X-SOC Force Pictured

      MSI 9-Series Motherboard Gaming Lineup Leaked - Includes Flagship Gaming 9 AC and Mini-ITX Gaming Boards**

      It stands out, although it is not something new, the fact that most are designed to mount M.2 SSDs directly with a PCIe interface at 10Gb/s… which, from my point of view, falls short of what it could offer if instead of 2 channels it used 4.

      For now, considering the bottleneck of SATA3 for SSDs, it seems that another type of connection standards are going to start to popularize since SATA4 (12Gb/s) do not arrive until who knows when and are clearly destined for mechanical disks working in RAID.

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        Well, I think in the end we will end up connecting all the SSDs directly to PCI-E as cards without adapters of that style, otherwise the other alternative is depending on the speed to use several SATA3. But using more connectors complicates it, I see it with indifference and more knowing that SATA4 will have to come out sooner or later.

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          It's not very clear why SATA Express is actually SATA 3.2

          SATA4 no idea but we can get an idea with what we know about SAS

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            This move is towards the end of SATA as a standard for SSDs, that is, it is a bridge, allowing you to connect a SATA and connect a SATA Express which is, as I understand it, a PCI-E; something similar to mSATA/mPCIE. In the end, what they are saying is that it is better to connect a drive via PCI-E, because not directly to its connector? Well, to maintain compatibility and allow the use of long cables.

            But I think that in the end it will not have a future or either SATA4 disappears or we go directly to PCI-E as manufacturers have already done and is done in small computers with mSATA. Using a hybrid makes sense, it will serve for a while until speeds continue to increase and it is no longer useful, SATA3 will continue for conventional drives and optical drives. If SATA4 finally comes out as it should, it will have drawbacks compared to PCIE, it will simply serve to use longer and smaller cables.

            So I don't see the future of SATA as such very clear, performance SSDs will go to PCIE and storage ones to SATA, we will see if they increase their speed or leave it as it is.

            https://www.sata-io.org/sites/default/files/documents/SATA_Express-SV2013.pdf

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              It's hard to know how it will end... I just know that I want to change my computer and that this is a big deal for me because I'm going to use it for work and I need a good SSD of about 500Gb that doesn't cost a fortune :crying:

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                @Espinetenbolas:

                Complicated to know how it will end… I only know that I want to change my computer and that this conditions me a lot because I am going to use it to work and I need a good SSD of about 500Gb that doesn't cost a fortune :llorar:

                On Amazon you have a 480 Giga disk around 200€ and it's not a bad disk:

                Crucial CT480M500SSD1 - Internal Hard Drive 480 GB, SATA, 2.5": Crucial: Amazon.es: Computer

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                  Magnificent example of "the complications that hardware developers have been having to manage (us) their advances."

                  ...me lo dicen las voces...

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                    @amd125:

                    On Amazon you have a 480 Gigas disk around 200€ and it's not a bad disk:

                    Crucial CT480M500SSD1 - Internal hard drive of 480 GB, SATA, 2.5": Crucial: Amazon.es: Computer

                    If the problem is as follows:

                    -I have 8Gb of RAM but my Phenom II does not accept more than 16Gb-> Mandatory change of platform because I want to put at least 32Gb… besides the CPU is a bit short.

                    -Motherboard with SATA2-> The motherboard must be changed because a SATA3 controller for PCI-E is not worth it

                    • But SATA3 makes a bottleneck for SSDs-> I wait to see the SATA Express or I mess up with a PCI-E disk that will cost me at least 500€ up to 2 or 3 thousand euros :ffu:

                    I liked the "Samsung XP941" with a "Lycom DT-120" adapter since it's the disk used by the new MacPro (the ones that look like the urn of Steve Jobs) but it turns out that it's not Bootable and therefore it's not useful for me to install Windows... I'm thinking about the "Plextor M6e 512Gb - PX-AG512M6e" which comes out for about 450€ and it's supposed to have the same performance as SATA Express disks because it connects at 10Gb/s... besides you can boot Windows with it and it has a decent average performance at the IOPs level although it's not the Samsung (mainly the problem is the Maxwell controller which is a potato).

                    In any case if I had to get a SATA3 I would get the "Samsung 840 Pro" of 512Gb which now is at 300€ and if it's not enough for me the "Crucial M550"... I say if it's not enough for me because with a scholarship salary I can do little. :eoh:

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