Micro and mother for HD 7770
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Hello Friends, I wanted to ask you about upgrading my micro and motherboard while keeping my HD 7770 video card. I'll tell you what I currently have in my PC so you can help me out.
A Gigabyte 78LMT-S2 motherboard (760G chipset) that says it's AM3+ CPU Ready on the box.
It also says New AM3+ CPU BIOS installed.
A Phenom 2 x2 555 3.20 GHz micro.
An XFX Core Edition Radeon HD 7700.
4 gigabytes of RAM with Windows 7 32-bit and 2 one-terabyte hard drives plus a CD/DVD reader.
An Antec VP450 450W real PSU, so far everything has been stable, even when I connected another 80 GB SATA drive to retrieve information from it.
Well, that's the equipment I have.An HD 7870-type card would require me to change the PSU and I think the micro as well because I was told that an HD 7870 or 7850 would cause a bottleneck with the Phenom's cores, which I don't know if it's true.
I also don't know if it would cause a bottleneck with an R7 260x or an R9 270x from the new series.Right now, I can't afford to change everything and I want to change the micro and motherboard while keeping the HD 7770 for now and see if I can get more out of it at the resolution I play games at, and maybe later I'll go for an HD 7870-type card, but I can't afford it right now.
Would the HD 7770 perform better with an FX 6300 or 6350 than with the Phenom I have, I should clarify that everything is for playing at 1366x768 resolution on a 32-inch HD ready LED.
Or would I not see any change at all,
and in case my motherboard supports an FX 6300, should I keep it or change it as well or just the micro, I mean because the 760G chipset I don't know if it's very good or if it would make good use of an FX 6300 for example.
and finally, the Antec PSU is stable with an FX6300 with the HD 7700 plus the rest of my PC, I mean FX6300 but I hope you advise me on the FX line that would make the HD 7700 perform a little better always talking about using it at 1366x678 resolution.
At that resolution, everything runs very smoothly except for Crysis 3 (at that resolution, everything is revealed in low layers, it's my micro) and certain tracks of NFS the run and Metro Last Light.
Everything else runs very well at maximum.
I hope for your help and your opinion, thank you very much in advance.
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Ideally, you would switch to an i5, but having a motherboard where you can mount an FX-6300, even if it's modest, seems like a good option to only upgrade the micro, if you can get a 270X, better that better, you'll notice it a lot and it won't make the x6 a bottleneck.
The next thing could be a 1080p monitor between 22 and 24", that resolution is very modest.
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For now I can't go for the 270x
I'll notice some improvement by replacing my current micro with an fx 6300.
How is this micro fx does it perform better in games than the phenon I have.
The i5 should be better but it's more expensive so I want to stick with the fx6300 if it's convenient or helps in any way to improve performance in games..
later if I change the board I would go for full hd for now I only have led hd. -
Performance per core isn't much better but it has triple the threads. Another option is to see if you have Advanced Clock Calibration in BIOS to try to mutate your micro to x4.
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As for micros, I would get an fx 8000 or one of the new apus and that way you do the new wireless crossfire, of motherboards, to each their own, I would get either a gigabyte or an asus
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That board does not support a current x8, the 8100 unless you find it second hand at a flea market is a bad deal, because it will be complicated to get a new one and I think the 6300 is better. If we are going to change it, the ideal would be to go for an i5 and lay the foundations for a good computer.
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Do you do crossfire between the apu and the hd 7770? I don't understand much about that
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I agree with Obione, the most important thing is that you inform us of your budget, because it depends on it if you could go for a Core i5, or the FX63xx, which would perform somewhat better than your current micro. And if not, an Asrock B85 or similar with an i5 4440 would already work for you, but we are already talking about more than 200€.
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Re: Micro and mother for HD 7770
Hello friend, thanks for your opinions. I'll tell you about my experience these days. Well, I still haven't bought the FX micro or anything, but I was able to unlock my Phenom X2 to X4 with the EasyTune 6 that I downloaded from the Gigabyte website. I put an option that says enable core boost and magic asked me to restart, and when I started up, the extra cores already appeared, and it was already showing as a Phenom X4.
I went into the BIOS, and there were two more cores than before, which didn't even show up in the BIOS before..
I wanted to do OC from the EasyTune and I increased it to 3.5 GHz by touching the FSB, and after a while, I got a blue screen, so I went into the BIOS and also left it at 3.5, and my PC crashed in the middle of a game, then I left it at 3.4 GHz by putting X17 in the CPU clock ratio, and from there I gave it a try and nothing, it was very unstable.
I didn't touch the voltage anymore to increase the GHz for fear of messing up.
Well, the issue is the temperature now, it's getting very cold and it's running very exaggerated, it reached 60 degrees with Crysis 3 while playing for a while. I would have to get a cooler, the stock one won't be able to handle the hotter days..
Well, now I'll tell you, my experience might be useful for someone else with a similar micro to unlock the 2 cores.
I got an extra boost with the HD 7770 when I went from X2 to X4 in the game NFS The Run. All the tracks that were around 23 fps are now above 30 fps, with plenty to spare. In Crysis 3, I also gained quite a few fps, but not everything is at maximum like NFS The Run, and in Metro The Last Light, I also gained a little fps, but less than in Crysis 3. And in some places in other games that were below 30 fps, it went above 30 fps..
The game that benefited little to nothing was an older game, but with a lot of 3D and heavy for my VGA, and that's Split Second. It runs okay, but it's just that, it's an older game than the others mentioned, and as you can see, unlocking it and going to 4 cores was useful, of course, limited to my VGA, but it was an extra boost.
Now correct me if I'm wrong, if I improved as a Phenom X4 to 3.2, it would improve a little more in an FX X6 to 3.5 or to 3.9 GHz in the case of the FX 6350, but as I said, only as far as my VGA allows. I'm not going to pretend to play Crysis 3 on ultra with the HD 7770..
They told me that my power supply will be able to handle the HD 7850, so if that's the case, should I go for that VGA first with the Phenom that's in X4??..
And if so, in the future, go for the change of mother, at least one with a 970 chipset, like the Asus R2 that I was looking at, and an FX X6..
The R9 270 already has 30 more watts than the HD 7850, and I don't know if it will be able to handle it..
And finally, I saw some cheap coolers, the Hyper 212 and Hyper TX3 coolers. Are these good?? And would they also work for the FX in the future??
Thank you very much for your opinions, they help the less experienced.
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Tell us what power supply you have, and we can give you a better answer, the Cooler Master ones are pretty good and the Artic Cooling ones too, but for now I don't think there will be a very substantial improvement when moving from your X4 to an FX63... before it was an X2, yes, but being an X4, I don't think there will be much difference and I would already look at the i5 option. Regards!
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The power supply is Antec vp450...
It never fell short and now in x4 with 2 sata of a tera dvd burner..pci network card memory card reader and also usb sound card that i connected while playing...
The hd 7850 has a tdp of 130 w and that vga they told me that my power supply can handle with my current pc...
The r9 270 already has tda of 150w and i don't know if it will be supported...
And the cooler yes or yes i will need because it gets cold and it's definitely a heater...
So if it supports the hd 7850 i'll go for that then for an fx and Mother with chip 970 for a better oc...
I mean i'm looking for more graphic performance but i can't do everything at once or it's 1st the hd 7850 and then the fx 6350 or vice versa...
I forgot ahira i put an 80 gb disk testing win 7 x64 so i have 3 sata playing metro last light and it still handles very well it didn't restart or anything and it stayed like phenom x4 at 3.4 Ghz more oc i couldn't because the blue screen would pop up...
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