980 Vs 970 Vs 780Ti a.k.a And you more
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Siento decepcionarte, no voy a comprar la grafica para demostrarte nada, por suerte voy sobrado en hard ;D.
Sobre las reviews, yo soy el primero que está decepcionado ya que esperaba mas, esperaba un 5-10% a lo sumo puntualmente mas, pero eso no me hace ver que el framerate no es tan malo como lo quieres pintar y que la experiencia de juego es mejorable.
Muchas review he leido ya como para que vengas a decir lo contrario, como te he dicho antes los numeros no mienten, mienten las personas, quedate con tu verdad y listo, como que la 970 es superior a la 780Ti y esas cosas que los demas ya hemos comprobado insitu que no es cierto.
Asi que la Fury X no me entusiasma pero no lo tinto de fracaso, debato las impresiones que me dejan las reviews y los usuarios como este caso ELP3, otra cosa es que a ti lo que te rebato no te guste y siempre tires por la tangente
, sin acritud.Un saludo.
Javisoft coge la mejor de tus 780ti e intenta superar alguno de mis resultados cuando tenia la 970 ( y ojo que era la mala, ya que la buena la vendi antes de esos bencheos ) muchos de esos resultados sin bios modificada.
A ver en cuanto los superas…ji ji ji... en juegos una 970 con oc max ya te digo que supera a una 780ti tambien al max oc en muchisimos casos. ( recuerda que tuve dos blacks pata negra... y tambien sli de 970 bastante decentes) Asumelo ya hombre...3DMARK 11 PERFORMANCE
FIRE STRIKE 1.1
FIRE STRIKE EXTREME 1.1
FIRE STRIKE ULTRA 1.1
CLOUD GATE 1.1
ICE STORM EXTREME 1.2
Los metros eran con oc moderado sin llegar al limite:
METRO 2033 1080P ULTRA DOF on PHYSX off
METRO LAST LIGHT 1080P ULTRA PHYSX off
Ale ya tienes entretenimiento demostrar la superioridad de una de tus 780ti pasada por agua vs una 970 con pcb de referencia por aire (eso si tenia, una buena disipación):sisi:
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I'll put it better, since you open the offtopic, by air and reference, not like your 970 no referece XD. Since you pull for what favors you, I'll do the same:
And by the way, a 3Dmark, where the impartiality of the data is assured ¬¬:
[NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 Ti video card benchmark result - Intel
Core i7-3930K Processor,ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. RAMPAGE IV EXTREME](http://www.3dmark.com/fs/5184312)
I know what a 970 yields, I even had a black sheep in my hands that did 1650 stable with unlocked bios, I spent days testing in games, you don't need to tell me what it yields, it's clearly below except in some specific game that are equal.
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I'll put it better, since you open the offtopic, by air and reference, not like your 970 doesn't reference XD. Since you pull for what favors you, I'll do the same:
And by the way, a 3Dmark, where the impartiality of the data is assured ¬¬:
[NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 Ti video card benchmark result - Intel
Core i7-3930K Processor,ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. RAMPAGE IV EXTREME](http://www.3dmark.com/fs/5184312)
I know what a 970 yields, I even had a black sheep in my hands that did 1650 stable without unlocked bios, I spent days testing in games, you don't need to tell me what it yields, it's clearly below except in some specific game that they equalize.
Upload the benches that I have uploaded... not two thumbnail images that you can't even see, nor parameters used.... The 970s I had had the same pcb as the ref with phases of 6+6, in fact you made them give birth in the news of the mess... remember? saying that they were ref pcb only with good dissipation.
Well those little things give that in fire strike.... hehe let's see if any of your 780ti passed by h2o surpass me... I expect your results validated with the corresponding links....:D
For now that fire is inferior to my result in graphics score... hehe... upload the rest of the benches... and you have rl I didn't have.
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I'm on it, downloading the games, which are many XD, by the way we didn't talk about heaven or tomb raider, right? The problem with the inno3D is the pcb, the best part is the cooling, the difference in consumption is important enough to compare with a reference and 250w, even so it still wets my ear as I say.
I have the sli by water on the table with the 5820k waiting for the third block, as you can understand I'm not going to assemble it yet, but by air I'm fine don't worry XD.
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I'm on it, downloading the games, there are a lot of them XD, by the way, we didn't talk about heaven or tomb raider, right? The problem with the inno3D is the pcb, the best part is the cooling, the difference in consumption is significant enough to compare with a reference and 250w, even so it still wets my ear as I say.
I have the sli by water on the table with the 5820k waiting for the third block, as you can understand I'm not going to build it yet, but by air I'm fine don't worry XD.
I don't have them anymore, I sold them recently. I had the last one until a few days ago, but when I received the first 980ti of the two I reserved I sold it. So the only games I can recover are the metro and I wasn't going to full on the 970. The tomb raider if I remember correctly from stock the base clocks and memo at 1080p an ultimate settings or max settings which is the same gave me 103 fps on average. The titan black at 1050mhz which was its boost over its base clock gave me 91 fps so both eat it with the base clocks.
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No hay mas preguntas señoria …
http://www.guru3d.com/index.php?ct=articles&action=file&id=12640
MSI GeForce GTX 970 Gaming OC review - DX11: Tomb Raider
MSI GeForce GTX 970 Gaming OC review - Overclocking The Graphics Card
Yo quiero ver tus resultados no los de las webs, yo normalmente siempre supero todos los resultados de todas las webs a igualdad de clocks, no me sirven como prueba.
Sube tus propios resultados y comparamos, si me superas en todos te daré la razón… sino te habré owneado con una 970 normalita.:fumeta:
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I want to see your results, not those from the websites, I usually always outperform all the results from all the websites at equal clocks, they don't serve as proof to me.
Upload your own results and let's compare, if you outperform me in all of them I'll give you the reason... otherwise I'll have owned you with a normal 970.:fumeta:
We're already dealing with double standards, for the 980Ti the data is correct, for the 970 it's not, I'm just telling you that at 1300/2000 vs 1600/2000 I was putting in 11 fps and on average in games between 7 and 13, if you want to believe it well, no, then fantastic, putting 15 3dmark isn't going to give you the reason, when in-game the truth is quite different.
If you want some more tests for example the 1671 points it gives at 1620/2100 in heaven (much more real than the 3Dmark from here to Lima). Little CPU dependent, 980X 4.5 ghz vs 4770K 4.5 ghz.
I don't know how many 970s you've seen at 1650 stable...
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We're already with the double standard, for the 980Ti the data is correct, for the 970 it's not, I just tell you that at 1300/2000 vs 1600/2000 I was putting in 11 fps and on average in games between 7 and 13, if you want to believe it well, no, then fantastic, putting 15 3dmark is not going to give you the reason, when ingame the truth is quite different.
If you want some more test for example the 1671 points it gives at 1620/2100 in heaven (much more real than the 3Dmark from here to Lima). Little CPU dependent, 980X 4.5 ghz vs 4770K 4.5 ghz.
I don't know how many 970s you've seen at 1650 stable...
My bad exceeded you at 1570mhz... ji ji ji... so much I was overclocking it but it was performing poorly... :wall: look at this:
UNIGINE HEAVEN 4.0
UNIGINE VALLEY
That with the bad one, the good one was doing 1700mhz. and gave 72-73 fps in heaven.
But don't go to heaven that there may be equality, put the fire strike or 3 dmark 11 or the metro which is what I've uploaded... you go to what suits you, you know that you could only win in that and for the little hairs. Don't make me laugh man :ugly: I'm owning you every timeUpload a video like this with 2waysli of 780 ti to see how they throw...
This with the good one walking in 4k...
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My bad one beats you at 1570mhz… ji ji ji so I boosted you a lot but it performed poorly... look at this:
UNIGINE HEAVEN 4.0
UNIGINE VALLEY
That's with the bad one, the good one did 1700mhz and gave 72-73 fps in Heaven.
But don't go to Heaven because there may be equality, try Fire Strike or 3DMark 11 or Metro which is what I uploaded… go for what suits you, you know you could only win in that and for the pennies.Those extra fps are the difference of micro, as I say, very little cpu dependent, about the 3DMark … Since it came out it has not been useful for anything, oh no, for measuring it with LN2, it has never been a benchmark in the performance of a gpu or even a system, it's like saying to me that super pi is valid to measure the performance of a cpu... Come on XD.
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Those extra fps are the difference of micro, as I say, very little cpu dependent, about the 3Dmark … Since it came out it has not been useful for anything, oh no, for measuring it with LN2, it has never been a benchmark for the performance of a gpu or even a system, it's like you tell me that super pi is valid to measure the performance of a cpu... Come on XD.
You talk about micro... :facepalm: in single... in the heaven.... makes me laugh out loud. Tell me about the valley in sli and I would even say that the micro and its oc are important. But not in single because that doesn't hold up because I also had the 4770k and it pulled the same as the 4930k in single both with oc and stock. So you better look for another excuse, buddy.
I uploaded 14 min of metro 2033 all ultra at almost 1600mhz because the bad one messed up the sli. Upload a video with sli of 780ti at full blast in the same conditions same route and parameters and let's get some stats ok? I see you getting a bit scared justifying yourself with nonsense, I will own you again with the micro thing and you know it. Upload the video and I will own you again... come on you can do it crack!!!
Surpass that average framerate with two 780ti... ji ji ji
Stop justifying yourself with nonsense, I want proof not peregrine excuses... I provide proof. You don't provide anything at all. Give me something of your own, something that makes me shut up. Until then you are a bit of a big mouth in my opinion.
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De micro dice…:facepalm: en single... en el heaven.... permite que me parta de la risa. Que me digas el valley en sli aun te diría que si que es importante el micro y su oc. Pero no en single por ahi no cuela porque he tenido también el 4770k y me tiraba igual que con el 4930k en single tanto con oc como de stock. Asi que ves buscando otra excusa majete.
He subido 14 min de metro 2033 todo ultra a casi 1600mhz porque la mala me jodia el sli. Sube un video tu con sli de 780ti a todo trapo en las mismas condiciones mismo recorrido y parámetros y sacamos estadísticas ok? te veo algo acojonado justificándote con gilipolleces, te vuelvo a ownwear con lo del micro y lo sabes. Sube el vídeo y te volvere a ownear... venga tu puedes crack!!!
Supera ese framerate medio con dos 780ti...ji ji ji
Deja de justificarte con chorradas, quiero pruebas no excusas peregrinas… yo aporto pruebas. Tu no aportas nada de nada. Dame algo propio, algo tuyo que me haga callar. Hasta entonces eres un poco bocazas en mi opinión.
Vamos a ver, todavia tu 970 no me ha ganado en ningun test, ni sintetico ni de juegos, estamos comparando reference con custom, la grafica está por aire y con throttling, bueno, pues ni con esas consigues superar a una 780Ti:
Como digo, hay 38º ahora mismo aqui, el disipador no da a mas y el boost tira al suelo los 1300 mhz hasta 1215, ni aun asi me superas.
FPS fuera, tu timeframe con la 970 es de pena, luego muchos aseguran que el problema de la vram no se nota … En fin, vamos a dejarlo.
Ya he entrado en tu magnifico juego, te llevas el owned, y estoy hablando desde el 3930K, si te pillo con el 5820K y la grafica por agua te meto 6 fps mas con total seguridad ( muy parecido al tomb raider ), ahora, que yo sinceramente paso de demostrartelo, bastante estoy haciendo ya repitiendo lo que ya hice en su dia a fondo...
Ya tienes suficientes pruebas, throttling incluido, siempre por debajo, vamos a dejarlo estar, que las reviews son muy claras y datos ya tienes, terminemos con el offtopic sin sentido …
Un saludo.
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Let's see, your 970 still hasn't beaten me in any test, neither synthetic nor gaming, we're comparing reference with custom, the graphics are air-cooled and with throttling, well, even with that you can't beat a 780Ti:
As I say, it's 38º here right now, the cooler can't handle it and the boost drops the 1300 mhz to 1215, even so you can't beat me.
FPS aside, your timeframe with the 970 is pitiful, then many claim that the vram problem isn't noticeable... Anyway, let's leave it.
I've already entered your magnificent game, you're owned, and I'm speaking from the 3930K, if I catch you with the 5820K and the graphics water-cooled I'll get 6 fps more with total security (very similar to Tomb Raider), now, I honestly don't feel like demonstrating it to you, I'm already doing enough by repeating what I did thoroughly back in the day...
You already have enough evidence, throttling included, always below, let's leave it, the reviews are very clear and you already have the data.
Best regards.
In your bench I don't see tessellation enabled... in mine it is... in very high. I repeat that I passed that bench with a moderate oc, not like in the synthetics where I was going all out.
Besides I have it without patches and the sparrow version. I'll tell you that at 1215mhz you don't get almost 60 fps on average, I won't buy it.
Run it with tessellation very high and show up like mine in the result, until then you're owned. Besides getting 1 fps on average.... which is laughable because mine was walking, so in that bench I didn't push it to the limit. Let that be clear.
If you want to see them at full capacity take as reference the video I sent you of the sli in Metro 2033 which is original, make your own video with the same parameters and let's compare them side by side. Let's see who owns who. Besides I'm still waiting for all the synthetics... you only uploaded one and I beat you...:fumeta:
P.D: the results of that link were with a 980 and it didn't reach 60fps except for one that gives 60 fps, the 980 crushes your 780ti easily in that bench. Also I should tell you that my 4930k was at 4ghz in the testing when normally I have it at 4,7ghz. As a final note I'll say this.
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Let's see, the tessellation is at very high, I've redownloaded the game via sparrow and the graphics have throttling at 1215, I never lie, ever, I'd rather admit things than lie, thinking that a 780Ti without tessellation will give that framerate is total and absolute noob, without tessellation it doesn't give that framerate even at stock...
You have my word that what I'm telling you is true, the one putting excuses is you, I'm giving you the results you've been asking for so much, you came in very high asking for MLL and now you come to say that you didn't push the card to the max, well, I can't either and the equipment is inferior to my current equipment and even so I'm above in all the tests.
For me I've already finished with this, as I say, in a battery of 14 games the average difference was 6-7 fps which is just what the 980 gets out of it and with which I got very close.
If you want to keep talking about the fury x I'm delighted, the offtopic is getting very long and it's not necessary to corroborate anything else.
Best regards.
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Let's see, the tessellation is very high, I've downloaded the game again via sparrow and the graphics have throttling at 1215, I never lie, ever, I'd rather admit things than lie, thinking that a 780Ti without tessellation will give that framerate is a total and absolute noob, without tessellation it doesn't give that framerate even at stock...
You have my word that what I'm telling you is true, the one putting excuses is you, I'm giving you the results you've been asking for so much, you came in very high asking for MLL and now you come to say that you didn't push the card to the max, well, I can't either and the equipment is inferior to my current equipment and even so I'm above in all the tests.
For me I've already finished with this, as I say, in a battery of 14 games the average difference was 6-7 fps which is exactly what the 980 takes out and with which I get very close.
If you want to keep talking about the fury x I'm delighted, the offtopic is getting very long and it's not necessary to corroborate anything more.
Best regards.
I wasn't coming in high with the metros because as I said the 970 wasn't at full speed but with moderate oc (if you bother to read at the bottom of the metro screenshots I clearly said it), I come in high in the synthetic tests and in the video of metro 2033. That's where they were at full speed. You only cling to LL because it suits you, since you didn't have my max oc and you did. You beat me by 1 fps... wait I'm still breaking my back.... Show me that you beat me in the entire battery where I have it at full speed and I'll recognize the superiority of your 780ti or in the video.... Let's compare at full speed do you want? don't throw the shrimp with the cooking oil to heat up more to show me 1 more fps on average.... without showing parameters or anything you can say the same mass about 1215mhz... in the synthetics I'll see your real frequencies and then we'll talk about who beats whom.
Until then you continue to be ultra owned let's go. Come on keep trying to beat any of my synthetics... I can imagine you from here with a face of impotence at the same time as circumstance... damn because a 970 eats your 780ti.
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I didn't come in with a high score with the metro because as I said, the 970 wasn't running at full capacity but rather moderately (if you bother to read the caption of the metro screenshots, it clearly says so), I do come in with a high score in the synthetic tests and in the metro 2033 video. That's where they were running at full capacity. You only cling to the LL because it suits you, since I didn't have my max OC and you did. You beat me by 1 fps… wait, I'm still pushing myself to the limit.... Prove that you beat me in all of battery where I have it at full capacity and I will recognize the superiority of your 780ti or in the video.... Let's compare at full capacity, do you want? Don't just throw the shrimp into the fire to show me 1 more fps on average.... without showing parameters or anything you can say the same thing about 1215mhz... In the synthetics I will see your real frequencies and then we can talk about who beats whom.
Until then you are still ultra owned, let's go. Come on, keep trying to beat any of my synthetics... I can imagine you from here with a face of impotence at the same time as circumstance... damn because a 970 eats your 780ti.
I'll answer you again, the data I've provided you are all in air and with throttling, a custom and water cooled card literally destroys a 970, there's nothing more to it.
So much that you like guru3d:
Like I said, with full OC the 980 and the 780Ti are very even. Yours is a case of not wanting to see it and not wanting to believe it.
Goodbye.
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I'll answer you again, the data I've provided you is all in air and with throttling, a custom and literally water-cooled one destroys a 970, there's no more.
As much as you like guru3d:
Like I say, with full OC the 980 and the 780Ti are very even. Yours is a case of not wanting to see it and not wanting to believe it.
Goodbye.
I remind you that my 970s were both air-cooled, you're comparing them to yours when you water-cool them. I'll give you that advantage, when you water-cool them, we'll see how you "destroy me in the synthetics". Remember these words because I'm afraid that even then you'll have to use all your skills. I don't think you'll surpass me in the Fire Strike that I've uploaded, not in any of them.
You already know that now you can't surpass them even with a lot of luck and you come with the throttling and other stuff... man, put them at 130% max fixed voltages and fans at full speed, you have up to 90 degrees to avoid throttling... don't come with excuses. It's the height of it already that you want to compare by water... you didn't say that a 780Ti beats a 970? well, it should be under equal conditions, both air-cooled as is the case here.
But as you see that you can't even remotely, you need to wait for your blocks, which I already told you that you won't surpass me and if you do it will be by very very little. Unless you get a classy one and put it at 1.45v core and it does 1400-1450 mhz, you're going to have a hard time, man. At 1300mhz you're going to eat your snot. I tell you this because my Black did 1350mhz (fixed without throttling at 1.21) and with the 970 I surpassed it in all the Fire and many other games.
So keep saying nonsense that I know better than anyone what they perform, because my two Black beat your two 780Ti. So don't make me laugh anymore and start to demonstrate things with your results and stop resorting to websites.
And so you can see what I'm talking about, I'll pass you a screenshot of one of my Black at 1350mhz + 550 memos without throttling with PhysX enabled (it didn't reach 61 fps, not even with your 780Ti water-cooled you'll surpass that). You'll try it with your super blocks... Therefore I'm comparing with a Black that eats your 780Ti that doesn't even reach 60 fps with PhysX disabled. Imagine if yours is slow, it's a real slow one.
That's why I'm even more sure of your defeat. Because I have a base card that is my ex Black... Dude, I'm not the typical noob like the ones you usually find elsewhere...
Throw your 780Ti in the trash, kid.:fumeta:
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The 970 that I showed you was overclocked 10 Mhz by water … In the 970 the temperature is not a problem to get the most out of the chip, it seems unbelievable that you had them, or have you ever had throttling? I'm sure you haven't... By the way, my 780ti is at 106% and 95 degrees with an asic of 73.6%, as I say with almost 40° ambient, throttling... And I repeat, the data shown, by air.
Besides, this is not the good gpu, the good gpu that I have has an asic of 86% and goes up to 1350 by water to bench, achieving a much better result.
I'll assume it once and for all...
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Bye!
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Bye!
I won't follow, I'm going to leave the topic, I don't want any more controversy, it's useless to comment anything else, data has been provided, reviews have been posted, all that's left is for me to get another 970 G1 to fully get into their game... Because this is already bordering on ridiculous with the amount of user data and reviews that are on forums.
Goodbye.
