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      Hello, I am about to retire the q6600 that has given me so much joy and few problems. I was looking into processors and saw how well the i5 2500k supposedly worked and work but now that I have decided to buy I see that it is discontinued and it is very difficult to find a new one.
      Now the "substitutes" of this are the (if I am not mistaken) i5 3570k about 60€ more expensive….
      My question is... better the 2500k than the 3750k?
      The truth is that I do not plan to spend more than 200 or 210€ on the processor at most, the rest of the pc I still have to look at motherboard, memory and ssd since I plan to use the corsair TX850 power supply and msi 560ti graphics.
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        Man, I think the replacement right now would be the i5-4670k, you can get it for around 200. You can find the 2500k second-hand and it was a very good micro, but it would have to be very cheap for me to buy it now. I would look at the i5 that I told you, some z97 motherboard.

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          The short answer is NO. Two generations later it represents around 40% more power, and as Techno says, the current one fits your budget.

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            @Bm4n:

            The short answer is NO. Two generations later it represents around 40% more power, and as Techno says the current one fits your budget.

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            I would only buy a 2500K if it was very well priced. On hard2mano for example they have been seen for around 120€, if you get it at a similar price and you get a motherboard that is also well priced, then you can save yourself around 100€ compared to a more current platform between micro and motherboard and it would depend on you. It's not that it's a bad micro, but if you're going to upgrade, it's better to go for something more current unless there's a very good offer.

            Besides, it's rare that someone would have a 2500K and not overclock it... so to buy a micro that for a couple of years at least, if not more, has been with a good OC, because these were micros that overclocked very well, so it gives you something to think about.

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              It seems I was a bit outdated so I've tried to catch up a bit. If you're curious, I'll leave you the link to the thread where I presented the new project:

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                @Bm4n:

                The short answer is NO. Two generations later it represents around 40% more power, and as Techno says the current one fits your budget.

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                We would rather it were so, but it's not. From sandy to ivy it was 7% and from ivy to haswell the same. Intel focused on efficiency and igp instead of brute power. By increasing the frequency of the sandy, you have almost the same as the rest.

                Now you will say, It's that the others also go up. Yes, but it limits you before the temperatures because of the mess of the ihs paste. So in practice all maxed out, they perform similarly. The only exception is the 4690k, which fixed the temperature issue.

                Currently I would only buy a 1155 platform if you buy everything second-hand or from an outlet and the set of motherboard + micro + ram comes out for about 200€. With a budget, I would opt for the new one. But that doesn't mean the 2500k is obsolete.

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                  @ismarub:

                  We would rather it were like that, but it's not. From sandy to ivy it was a 7% and from ivy to haswell the same. Intel focused on efficiency and igp instead of brute force. By increasing the frequency of the sandy, you have almost the same as the rest.

                  Now you will say, It's that the others also go up. Yes, but it limits you before the temperatures because of the mess of the paste of the ihs. So in practice all raised to the maximum, perform similarly. The only exception is the 4690k, which fixed the temperature issue.

                  Currently I would only buy a 1155 platform if you buy everything second-hand or from an outlet and the set of motherboard + micro + ram comes out for about 200€. With budget, I would opt for the new one. But that doesn't mean the 2500k is obsolete.

                  Well if you're telling me that Intel has gone several generations without increasing the power of their CPUs, I don't buy it. And the 2500K is a micro that is discontinued, whether you like it or not, I was a proud owner of one, but it's true that right now I would buy a haswell and not a sandy.

                  You're right that the sandy is more overclockable and therefore in a superpi it will give a result as good as a haswell, but you forget that in performance per cycle the haswell is superior. If you say that a 7% per generation, then I think it's fine, 7 and 7 14% to that you have to add a better memory controller, more bandwidth, lower consumption, better instructions, etc. If you still want to save 50€ on the processor or risk it second-hand perfect, it's possible that you have a good experience, but it's not the most logical option.

                  I have always thought that in hardware you should never buy the latest or the oldest and it has always worked for me, even so I would be delighted to read some data, statistic or article that supports your opinions.

                  PD. From sandy to ivy the process architecture does not change, from ivy to haswell yes so the difference is not the same. And we are forgetting that this coming year a new architecture will come out very probably with important novelties... so it's not a good time to buy even a haswell or broadwell, it would be better to wait for Skylake with new RAM and new standards that they announced a long time ago. Sometimes it's not just about the CPU but everything that surrounds it, unless you buy simply to pass a test and be satisfied with the figure that comes out.

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                    Good

                    There are many articles and reviews (especially from foreigners) that demonstrate that from an i5/i7 2500k/2600k to a Haswell, in certain applications, it is not noticeable, or nothing. One of those applications are usually games (it also depends on the level of OC that is done to one and the other micro).

                    What is clear is that buying a 2500k at 180 euros is crazy, for that Haswell! but if it is found at a good price, I would not think twice! It is also clear that 1155 motherboards are not as many anymore and 1150 are everywhere, for now, that 1151 is already here!

                    Tests?
                    Then and Now: Almost 10 Years of Intel CPUs Compared > Gaming with the GeForce GTX 980 - TechSpot

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                      And have you thought about an i5-3570K, it's also a good option and they're not very expensive..??

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                        The intention is good, but I hope antoniodelao already has his micro a long time ago ?

                        Look at the dates when posting, it's already 10 months old.

                        Salu2!

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                          @Fassou:

                          The intention is good, but I hope that antoniodelao already has his micro a long time ago ?

                          Look at the dates when posting, it's already 10 months old.

                          Salu2!

                          There are indecisive people who know.:troll:

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                            Hay gente indecisa quien sabe.:troll:

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                              Well, I'm starting to see a future for the 2500k :sisi:

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                                The truth is that I don't go to the forum much, life gets in the way.. and I don't check the date of the posts..

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