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      Hello everyone, I'm new here and curiosity brought me here looking for help.

      You see, I have a Medion Erazer computer (from the accursed Media Markt) and recently I upgraded to a new graphics card. Well, something I already knew is that the tower is inverted, that is, the motherboard instead of facing left, faces right. What happens? Well, the graphics card instead of having the fans at the bottom, is placed facing upwards, the processor at the bottom with its respective heatsink and a fan at the bottom of the tower at the back that expels air, also at the top there is a fan which expels a little less air than the one at the bottom. The case feels cool and the rear outlet of the graphics card doesn't expel too much heat, but all this worries me, do you think it will last? understand that buying another tower after having spent on a graphics card... :troll:

      On the other hand, my headache comes because in two games specifically, the graphics card has stopped working, that is, the screen goes black and the computer continues to work, I look in the tower and the fans of the graphics card are stopped so I deduce that it stops working, solution to restart the computer with the button because there is no way to recover the image.

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        And can't you flip the top fans to reverse the flow, or just disable them?
        In principle, unless something limits the air intake in the graphics cooler, there's nothing to worry about.

        Apart from that, the issue of losing video is likely a power issue (something that should have been considered before buying the graphics card), change the power supply to a decent one (not a generic one) of at least 600W.

        Warning to navigators: Generic equipment is disposable. Investing in them to increase their functionality is not at all recommended.

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          Hi, at work I have a del inspirion t7400 with "inverted" graphics and nothing happens to it
          Regards

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            The power supply is a 700W cougar.
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              Clipper @koba
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              Active Pfc
              Bronze type
              At first it is not entirely bad
              But for me it is an unknown brand, in known ones the most basic is tacens, a relative had a radix, but it burned the micro and the motherboard
              Better known brand, at least Nox
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              P.d if you have a multimeter measure the values of the source
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                whoololon Veteranos HL @Clipper
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                Let's break it down then:
                • Brand and model of the graphics card you have installed.
                • Micro and graphics card temperatures at idle and under load. (Can be monitored with SpeedFan.)
                • Brand and model of the motherboard. (CPU-Z makes it easy to find this information.)

                Once we have that data, we'll refine the diagnosis.

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                  koba @whoololon
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                  Sapphire R9 380X
                  49º at rest and 67º has not yet been reached in full activity.

                  The motherboard is a Gigabyte H77, D3H, revision 1.0.

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                    @koba:

                    my headache comes because in two games specifically the graphics card has stopped working, that is, the screen stays black and the computer keeps running, I look in the tower and the fans of the graphics card are stopped so I deduce that it stops working, solution to restart the computer with the button because there is no way to recover the image.

                    Another user had the same problem and it was due to overheating.

                    I recommend that you try to do exactly the same thing that I told him:

                    Problems with gtx 960 new. - HardLimit

                    You will tell me. ?

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                      I have noticed that the speed of the fans never exceeds 50%, even when forcing them, is this normal?

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                        I reply to myself, I have tried with Speedfun and this one has boosted them to the max, strangely with aida64 and Msi afterburner it was not like that and the latter only increased them up to 48%, for the moment the temperatures are going well and the screen error has not happened again, when I make special use of the graphics I will use msi afterburner to control the temperatures and know what it could be...
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                          CPU temperature reaches up to 68º under full load, maybe too much? if so, I would put a new heatsink on it, but what orientation would I give it… :eoh:

                          Surely the CPU is "eating up all the heat from the graphics", or so I think.

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                            To really see the best solution, a picture of the component layout would be very helpful :sisi:

                            Assuming your graphics card has the fans facing upwards, it is true that this reduces its efficiency (the fans do not pick up the cooler air from below, and the top does not dissipate heat naturally upwards).

                            If you want to help the graphics card, the usual thing is to place a fan at low RPM of at least 80x80mm to move the air, placed perpendicularly over the graphics card itself so that you "help" the fans of the graphics card, and send the residual heat from the case backwards (where there are usually fans blowing air out).

                            Without seeing it, I can't be sure, but if you have the processor with the heatsink under the graphics card, check that the hot air flow coming out of the processor is not colliding with the bottom of the graphics card, because then it will be in that space where you really need to put the fan I mentioned, to divert that heat source onto the "bare" part (usually the top) of the graphics card.

                            Well, I hope I haven't confused you more ;D

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                              @koba:

                              Cpu temperature reaches up to 68º at full performance, maybe too much? if so, I would put a new heatsink on it, but what orientation would I give it… :eoh:

                              Surely the cpu is "eating all the heat from the graphics", or so I think.

                              What matters in this case are the temperatures of the graphics, not the CPU.

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                                @koba:

                                Cpu temperature reaches up to 68º in full performance, maybe too much? if so, I would put a new heatsink on it, but what orientation would I give it… :eoh:

                                Surely the cpu is "eating all the heat from the graphics", or so I think.

                                First… 68ºC on the CPU is nothing... it could perfectly be working for years without stopping at 90ºC and it wouldn't give a single problem because the micro starts to suffer from 100ºC... so forget about the CPU.

                                As for who eats the heat that doesn't matter... the case must be well ventilated and should never exceed 40ºC inside (in case you wonder, these are the manufacturer's specifications).

                                That is, you must have an input/output flow that introduces cold air and takes out all the heat generated.

                                The greater that flow is, the closer to the ambient temperature the inside of your case will be.

                                If the case is not well designed, it helps to improve efficiency by putting fans inside as Fassou has told you, although it is a noisy solution and I don't like it.

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