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Hello everyone! I'm asking for advice on how to upgrade my PC! I'm coming from an Intel core 2 quad Q6600 with an ATI Radeon HD 5000 series graphics card. And I'm already having trouble running games. The PC will mainly be used for gaming and watching movies, so I'm trying to find the best quality/price option with some high-end features so that it lasts as long as my current one. I had a budget of around 1000€ without a monitor. With all that said, if you know of any components that are better to wait for because they'll be cheaper when a new model comes out or something like that, you'd be doing me a favor. I was thinking about the following:- processor: Core i7 6700k or Core i5 6600k (is the price difference worth the performance improvement?)
- RAM: 2x8gb Ripjaw G.Skill red DDR4 (I'm a bit lost with the RAM. Are these good or are there better options for the price? For gaming, is 16gb enough or should I go for 32gb?)
- Graphics card: EVGA GTX1060 SC Gaming (this manufacturer seems good, I even thought about investing in a 1070 but is it worth it?)
- Motherboard: here you really need to help me because I'm completely lost, I don't plan on overclocking (at least not initially, because I have no idea, but if the components mentioned recommend it, I'd consider it. Anyway, I was thinking of a motherboard for around 100€)
- CPU cooler: is it okay to leave the one that comes with the CPU or should I invest in a cooler even if it's "cheap"?
- PSU: any recommendations? One with good reviews? How many watts of power do you recommend for this setup?
- Monitor: I've read that for gaming, a 144hz monitor is recommended (I'm not really sure what it affects and if it's noticeable visually) and a 2k resolution ASUS MG278Q 27" LED or BenQ XL2730Z 27" QHD If you know of any monitors with similar characteristics at a better price... That's it! Thank you very much!
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Between the 6700 and the 6600, for the use you are going to give it, I would go for the i5. The motherboard, here it is better to choose one that allows you high frequencies in memory, an Asrock Z170 Pro4 for example. For the RAM, it is better to choose the highest frequency that the motherboard and budget allow us; regarding the amount, if one wants to put 16 GB it can be put, it does not lack. Regarding the heatsink, it will depend on the temperature of the room, the tower you choose and the level of OC you want to do to the micro. EVGA is a good reference as an assembler, both for graphics and for power supplies. Having said that, that card does not excite me too much (from the start I would say it is hot), perhaps the MSI 1060 OC is better prepared. The power of the power supply will depend on the certification you choose, an EVGA 500W (80+ Bronze minimum) should be enough. Regarding the monitor, what you have to have clear is how many frames per second (FPS) our configuration is capable of moving. If playing we move around 60 - 70 stable FPS on average, buying a 144 Hz monitor is more of an investment than a necessity, because with a refresh rate of 75 Hz we would be more than enough. On the contrary, if we get more FPS than the refresh rate of our monitor (90 FPS vs 75 Hz) it will cause the famous "tearing", which is simply the impossibility on the part of the monitor to show the frames with sufficient speed. Normally it is enough to limit the FPS. When choosing or the panel technology, for games it usually goes better with TN and for multimedia with IPS, in this case, I would recommend a good quality TN. Regarding brands, I speak by hearsay, Benq usually offers greater color quality and depth of blacks; in any case, watch that the monitor suits you well, that it does not have too much light leakage and that the "ghosting" (residue of the previous frame) is not very pronounced. -
Don't close the door on OC, with calm and a good guide you can get some performance out of the micro. A 6600K will keep up with the next graphics card you buy in a few years.
I haven't put a hard drive in because without it it already escapes a little from 1,000€ :ugly:
Custom budget. PcComponentes.com
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Oops, I forgot to put the case, a Corsair 200R for 60 euros.
I'll pass you another one with a better graphics card and a better power supply, which costs a little more :facepalm:
As for the monitor, with 1080p@60Hz you're fine starting at 23". I'm really happy with my IPS. I don't notice that it lacks response time and you can see the range of colors. It costs 140 euros: http://xtremmedia.com/Monitor_23_LG_23MP48HQ_P.html
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On Wipoid there's a juicy Palit 1070 :troll:
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Thanks for the answers! But a couple of doubts came up at the same time. So is it worth investing the €100 or so from a 1060 to a 1070? and about the monitor, better to go for a good 1080p than a 2k? do current games allow 2k and 4k resolutions or just a few? (I feel my ignorance on the subject xD) as for the Hz, it is based on the tj and the equipment I am building, with these tj (1060 or 1070) do you think it will exceed 60 or 70 hz at a 2k resolution?
Thanks for the help!
Regards!
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The games accept the resolution you set, the issue is that your card can handle it. With a computer like the one from the last budget I'm playing The Witcher 3 (the most demanding one I've touched) and I go to 60 FPS or more at full graphics @1080p, except for rare occasions with many characters in cities that limit the processor and it drops to 50. If you go to 144Hz you don't take advantage of them and if you want to move it to 1440p you already have to remove some things. More demanding games will come...
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My personal opinion is that the 4K thing is a gimmick for the elitists, those who can afford a machine that costs half a car. It's an option, not an imposition.
In fact, most mortals play at 1080p, some at 1440p and a few at 2K. (I don't even play at 1080p) :ugly:
With that equipment, and an 1060, the recommended is 1440p. Of course you can squeeze it up to 2K, but we will depend a lot on the game's optimization to get an acceptable frame rate.
And by acceptable I consider around 50 + 5 fps. If it's more, better, if it's less, you have to lower the detail.
There are those who are satisfied with 30 fps, but that's because there's a bit of everything.
With the 1070 we can be in 2K so richly with a good fps rate.As Obione points out, moving a game to more than 75 stable fps at 1440p or 2K is something that is a bit far from that configuration (unless we go to titles from a few years ago), you may get some title that gets us around 80 fps, but I think it's more worthwhile to limit the fps to the maximum allowed by the monitor, than to spend what a 144 Hz monitor is worth, simply because those occasions will be the least, but take it as a suggestion. ;D
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What do you think of these monitors ( BenQ GW2765HE 27" LED IPS Monitor ; Dell UltraSharp U2515H 25" LED Monitor ) with the Palit 1070 that obione put?
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From what I've read around about "input lag", this BenQ averages 26.33 and 41 ms. top, center, and bottom respectively (BTT), while the Dell gives about 3, 10, and 18 ms. BTT.
As for "ghosting" management, the Dell also beats this BenQ.
Regarding black quality and color vibrancy, it's the BenQ that takes the cake.
If you have to choose one of those two exclusively, personally I would go for the Dell.
That said, keep in mind in any case that it is "a panel intended for multimedia that performs decently in games" (IPS), and not "a panel for games that performs decently in multimedia" (TN); which is not the same, but still, it's a good middle ground.
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Thank you very much for the answers! I will surely pick up the equipment at the beginning of next month.
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Well when I got up the courage to place the order on wipoid, I see that the Palit is sold out! :S
and looking at the web I saw these 4k monitors and apparently at a good price..
Samsung U28E590D 28" 4K and Samsung U24E590D 24" UDH 4K
Which one would you go for? or better to stick with the previous ones I listed?
Thanks!!
