Looking for speakers or studio monitors

[Yorus]

I just saw a detail of the Creative that I don't like at all, it has an external transformer. With this, the box will gain more volume for the sound, but I hate having transformers all over the place.

[Sylver]

That is becoming more and more common for a reason: if the transformer (or power supply if you want to call it that) fails, the fact that it is separate from the speaker assembly allows for a simple replacement without having to disassemble and gut the speakers themselves, putting the sound system and the precision of the assembly that offers the best possible performance at risk. That, for example, in the self-amplified ones is a disadvantage in the long term, because if one of the sources fails, you have to gut the entire monitor and that seriously jeopardizes its performance, because once opened and tampered with, it is very likely that it will no longer be the same as when it came out of the factory, and that will be noticeable in reverberations, vibrations, definition, etc... That is something to keep in mind, for sure. ¡Greetings!

[Yorus]

To be honest, I've been thinking about it for over an hour, looking through all kinds of forums, and my conclusion is that the T20s are still my first choice. The truth is that my Logitechs look great on my desk, and of all the ones we've put, only the two Creative models would take up more or less the same space, the studio monitors would be real beasts on the table for someone who doesn't work with sound :D.

I have little experience with sound, but I'm a master at organizing and hiding cables and transformers, so I'm sure I'll manage to tidy it up, with the desk clear and with better sound.

The Logitechs still have some life left, they'll go to my parents' house, I have a monitor/TV and I never listen to music because it's 100% lamentable, it's good for podcasts and not much more.

[Yorus]

Today I went to Fnac and then went back to MediaMarkt, the first to see the Creative and the second the Woxter DL-410. Well, at Fnac they didn't even have the Creative in sight, and not a single speaker that could be tested and the ones at MediaMarkt were being renovated, so they had them all grouped together on shelves without plugs.

I think I'm going to wait a couple of weeks, because starting from the weekend that comes up I'm going to be away for 4 days. I'll bring the Amazon app installed with the basket full to place the order for the Creative T20 (if no one convinces me with another option) the day before I return ;D.

[Obione]

I've heard good reviews about the Woxter, but I would only go for the Edifier because of the connections. It has a mini-jack for one source on the 410, against 4 RCA's for 2 sources on the R1280T, and you also get a remote with the 3 magic buttons (+ / - / mute).

[Yorus]

Thanks Obione, the truth is that I have it... less clear

[Yorus]

I keep moving the topic around to see if something that is commented on helps me to make up my mind. For now I rule out the T40s. I don't need much bass, I'll be satisfied if they go down a bit more than mine. So between T20/T40 I go for the former, and because it has never been a good idea to put more cones for the same sound frequency, so they may have more impact, but the quality will be the same. Another duel, Woxter vs Edifier. To what Obione said about the connections (I don't know why I thought the Woxter had an additional input and it doesn't) is added that taking measurements the Edifier are somewhat larger, but they are in the dimensions that least affect me, height and width. The price difference is big, but the feel that one and the other give is also nothing like it. I've searched a lot and I haven't found anyone who has been able to listen to both to compare. And one thing I'm seeing that bothers me. I haven't been able to see the Woxter physically, and I can't find a single store in the Madrid community that has them to go there to buy them. On top of that Madrid Hifi doesn't work with Edifier, which next week I could go to the store.

[Yorus]

Well, I hadn't commented on this because I was waiting to take some photos, but as I'm very busy and my management position seems like the technical department of my company, I'll put them up and say that the speakers have been the lucky ones...

Edifier R1280T

The T20 also convinced me, but between these having dropped to 90€ and not wanting to be left wanting, here they are. They take up more desk space, but not excessively so, and it's clear that they take the sound to another level. For anyone who is addicted to bass, they won't be convincing, but I love them. I haven't tried them on Windows yet, as the X-Fi drivers are better, but as I'm not going to use it much there, I'm in no hurry.

[Nemo]

Well, they look really good.
Let's see if you have some time and you can give us more details about how they sound and some photos to give us an idea of their size.
Now enjoy them.

[JuezDred]

I'm going to install some columns with car speakers. Let's see how it turns out.

[Yorus]

Let me clear the table and show you, I still have some things to update after assembling the Xeon.

[Nemo]

Yorus, I have a question about the connectors and cables that come with the speakers and their connection to the sound card.
Do you include the 3.5mm jack to RCA cables that you need or do you have to buy them separately?
And for those who are more knowledgeable about the subject, any recommendations when buying this type of cable? I mean, is it better if the connectors are gold-plated, or if the cable is of a specific type to minimize quality loss?

[Yorus]

Well, I didn't bother to look at it closely because I thought none were coming and I got something like this but in other sizes:

https://www.amazon.es/KabelDirekt-Coaxial-Conector-Conectores-Metal-Negro/dp/B00FQK4SAM/ref=pd_bxgy_23_img_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=XR8A28038EB91S5BXY30

And then it turns out that it comes with one jack 3.5 to two RCA and another from 2 RCA to 2 RCA. That said, they are quite normal. I don't know if anything will be noticed, for now no kind of parasite or crackles are getting through to me.

[Nemo]

@Yorus:

[…] at the moment no parasite or crackle gets through to me.

But do you have the ones connected from the Amazon link or the ones that come with the speakers?
That's why I was asking the experts if there is a difference between the "normal ones" and the ones that are supposed to be of higher quality like the ones you bought on Amazon.

[Yorus]

The ones from Amazon, since I bought them and chose the right size when I put them on. In fact, I got one that is 1.5m for the PC and another one that is 0.5m to connect the K6 when I feel like continuing with it.

[Obione]

I've only had problems with a piece-by-piece cable. My welder is very thick and it was impossible to leave the mini-jack properly, it kept coming loose.

The cables, if they are not a mess made in China poorly made afterwards, I don't think they will cause you any problems. Just keeping them away from cables that move a lot of watts is enough.

[Sylver]

Indeed, what Obione says is important: you have to keep them away from cables that carry a lot of electrical charge, because otherwise, you'll notice that when you turn off/on switches (sometimes the ones on the wall itself affect them), the speakers make a cracking sound that hurts your very soul as if it had been inflicted on you.

Needless to say, one of them may pass away, hence the recommendation

Best regards!

[Yorus]

@Nemo said in Looking for speakers or studio monitors:

Well, they look pretty good.
Let's see if you have a moment and give us more details about how they sound and some photos to give us an idea of their size.
Now enjoy them.

Better late than never. Here's a photo of how they look on the desk. The monitor is 24" to give you an idea:

Regarding the sound and with a couple of months with them, I must say that I am delighted and that it is exactly what I was looking for. They don't have spectacular bass, but I don't need them for the use I give them, although I don't want to say that they are short either, for me it is perfect. As for the sound definition, the same, perfect for me, and I listen to metal, classic rock, trance, new age, soundtracks, classical... and in all genres I find a virtue. Personally, I recommend them if you want to listen to music, which is what I use them 90% of the time.