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    Which card can I buy for crossfire?

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    • K Desconectado
      Kodek
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      Hello, first of all thank you for the help in advance.
      I have a problem, I bought a second graphics card to do crossfire and to my surprise, one graphics card goes to x16 and another goes to x4, the thing is that I would like to find a not very expensive card that supports crossfire x16 x16 in socket 775 so I don't have to change the micro, because with the one I have I think I have more than enough.

      If you see that it's not worth it, tell me.

      I'll pass on the current configuration of my team.

      Motherboard ASUS P5K-E WIFIAP EDITION
      Intel Quad Core 9300 processor
      4gb ddr2 800 kingston extreme memory
      Seagate 500gb 7500 rpm hard drive
      Graphics asus eah 5850 x2
      Arkangel 850w modular power supply

      Greetings to everyone.

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        ferelxyx Veteranos HL
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        hello, you don't ask for anything x16x16 nor do the modern ones have that, only some and they are very expensive
        x16x8 in the current ones is the most normal but in your case with the 775 forget it, because that socket
        is dead and there are only weak boards to get by.
        the only thing is that you get one second-hand or change the socket, with 360 euros approx you change it

        EJ:
        Intel Core i5 2500 3.3Ghz Box Socket 1155 - 185 euros
        Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD4 B3 - 140 euros is x16x8 (enough) - 140 euros
        G.Skill Ripjaws X DDR3 1600 PC3-12800 4GB 2x2GB CL9 - 30 euros

        regards

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          Obione Veteranos HL @ferelxyx
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          This would be the cheapest:

          http://cgi.ebay.es/ASUS-MAXIMUS-FORMULA-LGA-775-Intel-X38-ATX-Intel-board-/140610935425?pt=UK_Motherboards_CPUs&hash=item20bd109a81

          It would have been better to sell the 5850 and get a 560Ti for 200 euros, although if you can afford it, you can also make the jump to a new platform and sell that computer. What Ferelxyx suggests is fine, if you want to save a bit more for 160€ you have the ASRock P67 Extreme4 and budget memory (2x2GB 1333). If you don't want to overclock, the 2400 costs 170€ and you won't need to spend 30€ or more on a cooler (although I think the 2500K with overclocking + the Thermalright HR-02 cooler for 40€ is a better option).

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            CNCBCN @Obione
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            First of all. What is your budget? Second, your equipment (I know it hurts) is very outdated, and third, what do you want the equipment for? If it's for gaming, what games? Because nowadays a Battlefield 3 is not the same as something else. Resolutions? Monitor? Because if not, we might recommend a BEAST for playing 3 in a row :nono:

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              Kodek @CNCBCN
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              Well, to be honest, I haven't thought about it, but anyway 500 or so, the thing is that it tastes bad to me to get rid of my pc because even if it's outdated, (I know) the truth is that it runs pretty well with all the games.

              I use it to play basically, moha, wow, car games etc etc, we give it intensive use.

              I have a 24 inch monitor
              lcd full hd although I'm thinking about getting a 32 inch led television.

              I would also like to make the most of the parts of my pc because I said 500 but if they are 300 better, I mean not spending for spending.

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                Obione Veteranos HL @Kodek
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                More than outdated in performance is that there are no motherboards and the micros are as expensive as the new ones that run more, hence it is quite dead. If I already tell you that the problem has been putting a second 5850 in that chipset but what's done is done ?

                Also think that you can get some money per motherboard + micro + RAM :sisi:

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                  @Kodek:

                  I have a problem, I bought a second graphics card to do crossfire and to my surprise, one graphics card goes to x16 and the other goes to x4

                  That's normal and therefore you have no problem, just with these chipsets for 775 crossfire worked at 16 and 4x. As you have been told in the case of the latest P67 and Z68 chips it does it at 16 and 8x, only with the X58 do they work at 16 and 16x and the difference from one to another is practically nil. In case you change the system you will notice the difference in performance mainly because of the new processor not because one of the graphics now uses an 8x. So don't change the equipment because it would be silly, and I'm surprised that no one has said it already!, that is a topic that has been discussed for a long time.

                  PD. To realize the loss of performance by using a PCI 4x is minimal (5% and in some cases none): 16x/16x vs 16x/4x GTX 470 SLI Comparison - Overclock.net - Overclocking.net

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                    That's true, you don't lose as much with an x4 either and the x16 is more than dispensable but the chipset also makes a difference and it's not the same as an X58, P67 or Z68 as a P35, P43 or P45, if their thing had been to have an X38 or X48, although sometimes you get very close results with an x4 on the other chipsets. The point is that if you add chipset + micro with some games it becomes noticeable.

                    By the way Bm4n, have you seen the review on another forum of Sandy VS Lynnfield with mutliGPU? They pull even at the same clocks with an SLI of 470. I suppose the Sandy will scratch a little more with OC, especially with those that use more CPU.

                    I really freak out when I see some enthusiast switch from 920 to 2500K ?

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                      Bm4n @Obione
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                      Of course, man, the X38s, I had forgotten that there was already an "X" for Intel Core. Anyway, if you want to gain that 5% in certain games, you'll have to look for old or second-hand stocks, even so, I still think it would be throwing money away that you can save to buy a new computer in a while.

                      I'm not surprised, Obione. I had an i3 Clarkdale, which is a Nehalem like the Lynnfield but 32nm, and it performed really well, of course, that obviously when I changed to a 4-core Sandy, the difference was noticeable. But it was a very good architecture, and for the CPU power to affect FPS, I think it has to be because a CPU is running short of the game requirements and that the one that replaces it increases its power noticeably.

                      We have to think that the Lynnfields have a more powerful platform than the Sandys, and they are just the previous generation, even so, the differences are even positive for the Sandys because the games don't exploit the trichannel with graphics with 1GB or more of GDDR5 and because the 16-16x are not necessary for current graphics (I suppose except for dual GPU ones).

                      PD. In reality, enthusiasts buy unbalanced or unnecessary things because the brands sell it to us like that. We started using SATA3 when there were no SSDs to exploit it, no one uses USB 3.0, DDR10 in sixchannel but then it turns out that we use increasingly slow latencies, we set up SLI and crossfire when half of the games are not optimized, we have CPUs with AVX instructions that are tremendously powerful but there is no software that uses them, only a bench to brag about numbers, we buy 800W power supplies... man? and then it turns out that the PC consumes 400W, etc. etc. that's something that never lacks color patches in the shape of fire everywhere! :fumeta:

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                        Obione Veteranos HL @Bm4n
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                        It's clear that everyone, to a greater or lesser extent, has taken care of their PC with cool parts ;D but hell, from 920 to 2500K don't mess with me. If that's for LGA2011, new equipment xD

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                          Well that's another one, there are those that will change from 920 to 2600k and then to LGA2011, it will be because of paste.

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                            @Bm4n:

                            Bueno esa es otra, los hay que cambiarán de 920 a 2600k y luego a LGA2011, será por pasta.

                            Hay muchos que se cambiarían el PC cada nueve meses o cada año. Y sinceramente, me parece una tontería pasarse de un i7 920 a un 2600K. Una cosa es que uno que tenga un Core 2 Duo del año 2007, como por ejemplo un Core 2 Duo E6600, y decida pasarse por necesidad (programas que necesitan más recursos, juegos) a un i5 2500K actual (diferencia 4 años); y otra cosa es pasarse de un i7 920, que puede con todo lo que se le pide y más, a pasarse un 2500K, y luego al siguiente que salga.

                            Pero en fin, para gustos colores.

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