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      Hello friends, these days I am thinking about updating my equipment and I was thinking of putting the following components: Motherboard: Asus rampage 4 gene, processor i7-3820, Ram: 8gb ddr3. T.Graphics: gtx 275 oc. Do you think the graphics card will be able to keep up with new games like BF3? I was thinking of putting an ati 7950 oc 3gb, but my computer guy says that maybe the gtx275 will be fine. What do you think? Will the 8gb of ram be fine, or better 16gb? thanks

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        Hello, welcome to the forum

        My personal opinion is that with those 8 GB of RAM you are more than enough for anything you want to do. The gtx275 better the normal one and you do the oc you want and that way it comes out a bit cheaper.

        The PC is not just RAM, GPU and CPU. Make sure to get a good power supply, powerful and silent that powers the equipment with solvency, and a fast and efficient HD. With how cheap they are now I would get an SSD for the OS and a normal HD for storage...

        Greetings!

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          If you're not going to get the x6, you'd better go for a 2500K, if you're going to leave money behind, get a GTX 680 :ugly:

          +1 to the 8GB and as for BF3, you'll appreciate a good graphics card a lot. You don't need to go for the 680, but a 7870 would be cool, even on a 100€ card (if you don't want multiGPU) with the 2500K and a 25€ cooler.

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            I agree with the colleagues. A good graphics card is essential to play BF3 properly, like a 7870 or 7950, and with 8Gb of RAM you have more than enough.
            The power supply is VERY important as kalevala says, so look for something of good quality and acceptable power, it is not so important that it has extra watts as that it has efficiency and certified quality.
            Regarding the micro, a 2500K is also a very good option if you are going to play, that with a 7870 and you would already have a decent team.

            Greetings

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            >> Athlon 64 X2 5600+ Brisbane @2.9GHz || Gigabyte GA-M61PME-S2 || 2x2Gb DDR2 Kingston 800MHz || Sapphire Radeon HD 5850 Xtreme 1Gb || Maxtor 320Gb SATA2 || OCZ ModXStream 500W Modular || TEAC PowerMax 120/2 || Acer X243w 24"
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              @Obione:

              If you're not going to get the x6, you'd better go for a 2500K, if you're going to spend money, get a GTX 680 :ugly:

              +1 to the 8GB and as for BF3, you'll really appreciate a good graphics card. You don't need to go for the 680, but a 7870 would be nice, even on a 100€ card (if you don't want multiGPU) with the 2500K and a 25€ cooler.

              +1

              Anyway, if you already have the graphics card because it's from your current setup, try using it. You won't be able to run the game at Full HD. To run it at Full HD with high quality, you need at least an NVIDIA 560 GTX or an ATI 6870. But it will depend on your resolution. I can run BF3 at high settings at 1280*1024 with my setup, with plenty of room to spare, but of course with that resolution I don't need a top-of-the-line graphics card.

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                Fassou MODERADOR @amd125
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                Hold on tight, we're going to Full Settings ;D

                Bye for now!

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                  DaPeMa @amd125
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                  Yes, the graphics card is from my old computer, for now I will try to see how it runs with the new components, for now in the current computer it defends itself well, my computer technician says it will get good results although not at very high resolutions of course. In addition, with all the equipment I want to acquire for the new computer it raises the price quite a bit, later I will get a more powerful graphics card that meets my requirements.
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                    Obione Veteranos HL @DaPeMa
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                    If you don't have a very weak team, you could wait at least to see how the 3570K for LGA1155 turns out. If it reaches 5GHz or more by air and you get it for around 200€, it will be a better option than an LGA2011.

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                      DaPeMa @Obione
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                      @Obione:

                      If you don't have a very weak team you could wait at least to see how the 3570K for LGA1155 turns out. If it reaches 5GHz or more by air and you get it for about 200€ it will be a better option than an LGA2011.

                      Well also, but I prefer a motherboard with socket 2011, but the only processor that is available at the moment that costs less than 300€ is the i7-3820 and its benchmarks are very good compared to other processors that have double the cores. There is so much variety and models that one no longer knows which one to choose;D

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                        Obione Veteranos HL @DaPeMa
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                        You yourself, you're going to pay more for the same performance. The only sense I see in a 2011 x4 is needing a computer now and buying an x8 later that will cost a fortune and you won't appreciate it by playing. If you don't want huge amounts of RAM, plug in more than 2 cards or build an x6, you're throwing money away. Right now the x6 is already getting big but for a little more you have those 2 extra cores there that will be appreciated later.

                        Besides, if you're not going to change GPUs soon, much better to stretch your computer and jump to Haswell, there should be no more than 1 year left for the new platform.

                        Do the math with 2011:

                        • x4 = 280€ (+100 VS 2500K)
                        • basic board = 200€ (+70 VS P67A-UD4)

                        +100€ for a CPU that performs the same and +70 on the basic board VS a decent one. Then with a 25€ cooler you get a good OC with the 2500K, for the 2011 you'll need more, it will also consume more...

                        In summary, they are more than 200€ difference for the same thing, you put in 50€ more, sell your cheap card, and get a 7870, later you can plug in another and you'll have a computer to go miles.

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                          DaPeMa @Obione
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                          @Obione:

                          You yourself, you're going to pay more for the same performance. The only sense I see in a 2011 x4 is needing a computer now and buying an x8 later that will cost a fortune and you won't take advantage of it while gaming. If you don't want huge amounts of RAM, overclocking more than 2 cards or building an x6, you're throwing money away. Right now the x6 is already big enough but for a little more you have those 2 extra cores that will be more useful later.

                          Besides, if you're not going to change your GPU soon, it's much better to stretch your computer and jump to Haswell, there shouldn't be even 1 year left for the new platform.

                          Do the math with 2011:

                          • x4 = 280€ (+100 VS 2500K)
                          • basic board = 200€ (+70 VS P67A-UD4)

                          +100€ for a CPU that performs the same and +70 on the motherboard VS a decent one. Then with a cooler of 25€ you get a good OC with the 2500K, for the 2011 you'll need more, it will also consume more…

                          In summary, it's more than 200€ difference for the same thing, you add 50€ more, sell your cheap card, and get a 7870, later you can overclock another one and you'll have a computer to go the distance.

                          Since I see that you know about this subject I'll take your advice, I'm going to take a look to see how it goes. Besides, I wanted to change my graphics card and doing it as you say I'm sure I'll get everything done with good performance, besides I'm not one to put 2 GPUs, but to look at doing OC. Give me an example of how you would configure the PC, motherboard, processor, RAM, graphics.

                          :grinning:
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                            Obione has more reason than a saint (although he is not one)

                            At the moment the LGA2011 platform has a very defined use, as the colleague has already said.

                            If you put a decent motherboard like GA-P67A-UD4 B3= 129€
                            The 2500K =210€ along with the Scythe Yasya=34€
                            Graphics card according to your tastes:
                            Asus Radeon HD 7850 DirectCU II 2GB =251€
                            Asus GeForce GTX 560 Ti DirectCU II TOP 2GB = 248€

                            And you have a team ready to give it a go at OC and play comfortably for a while.

                            Best regards

                            Mis equipos

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                              DaPeMa @Nemo
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                              @Nemo:

                              Obione has more right than a saint (even if he is not)

                              At the moment the LGA2011 platform has a very defined use, as the fellow has already said.

                              If you put a decent motherboard like GA-P67A-UD4 B3= 129€
                              The 2500K =210€ along with the Scythe Yasya=34€
                              Graphics card according to your taste:
                              Asus Radeon HD 7850 DirectCU II 2GB =251€
                              Asus GeForce GTX 560 Ti DirectCU II TOP 2GB = 248€

                              And you have a team ready to give it your all in OC and play comfortably for a while.

                              Best regards

                              Many thanks guys!!! You have been of great help to me!!;D Now that you mention it, for a while, because this is crazy what happens with computers, hehe today you have a great team and tomorrow it is out of fashion, what a thing it is

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                                Nemo Veteranos HL @DaPeMa
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                                At least in the topic of Placa+micro you are covered for a few good years. The graphics, as you know, are like this: to play with everything at full capacity, you need new graphics every 2 years at most.

                                Best regards

                                Mis equipos

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                                  I'm going to pull out the crystal ball...

                                  Nemo, you've had a quick look at pcc and you've confused the 2550K with the 2500K.

                                  It almost happened to me before :ugly

                                  It's 182 bucks for the 2500K ?

                                  The 25€ cooler you were referring to is the 412S (27€ in reality). If you want a good OC and it comes out to be expensive it will fall short. If you can stretch it to the Yasya, better, it all depends on the OC you're looking for. In any case, at most a Thermalright Silver Arrow

                                  I think you should make the effort on the GPU to get to the 7870. If you don't want multiGPU, like if you have to go for the 412S and an ASRock P67 Pro3.

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                                    For less than ~135€ you have an ASRock Z77 Extreme 4 which for OC is a beauty ?

                                    Salu2!

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                                      @Obione:

                                      I'm going to pull out the crystal ball…

                                      Nemo, you've had a quick look at pcc and you've confused the 2550K with the 2500K.

                                      It almost happened to me before :ugly:

                                      It's 182 bucks for the 2500K ?

                                      The 25€ cooler you were referring to is the 412S (27€ in reality). If you want a good OC and it comes out expensive it will fall short. If you can stretch for the Yasya, better, it all depends on the OC you're looking for. In any case, at most a Thermalright Silver Arrow

                                      I think you should make the effort on the GPU to get to the 7870. If you don't want multiGPU, like if you have to go for the 412S and an ASRock P67 Pro3.

                                      No, I include the revolutionary tax…¬¬ okay you got me :troll:

                                      Best regards

                                      Mis equipos

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                                        Obione Veteranos HL @Fassou
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                                        @Fassou:

                                        For less than ~135€ you have an ASRock Z77 Extreme 4 which for OC is a beauty ?

                                        Salu2!

                                        You already see eh, it's triumphant to overclock a 3570K :ugly:

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                                          And you will also need this to power those gadgets :ugly: : Corsair TX650 V2 650W CMPSU-650TXV2 Power Supply

                                          Best regards!

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                                          >> Athlon 64 X2 5600+ Brisbane @2.9GHz || Gigabyte GA-M61PME-S2 || 2x2Gb DDR2 Kingston 800MHz || Sapphire Radeon HD 5850 Xtreme 1Gb || Maxtor 320Gb SATA2 || OCZ ModXStream 500W Modular || TEAC PowerMax 120/2 || Acer X243w 24"
                                          >> Intel Core2Duo E6600 Conroe @2.4GHz || Asus P5N32-SLI SE DELUXE || 2x1Gb DDR2 Kingston 800MHz || Asus nVidia GeForce 9800GT 1Gb GDDR3 || Seagate Barracuda IDE 80Gb 7200RPM || Linkworld LPK12-35 450W

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                                            Hello,
                                            I'm new to this forum, and I'm also about to buy a new computer.

                                            Since you're here, I would wait 10 more days for the Ivy Bridge to come out (the i5-3570K seems like a good bet and should cost more or less the same as a 2500k or 2550k, performing a little better and consuming a little less).

                                            A question for the forum members, is it really worth buying the Asus 7850 with OC for 41€ more than the Sapphire at stock? (yes, I'm Catalan ? ).

                                            The Z77 motherboards are also about to be released (in fact, some can already be bought) and some reviews leave the Gigabyte Z77X-UD3H quite good for OC - we have to see the price and availability in Spain (and surely there are many more options).

                                            If you don't need it in two weeks, I would wait.

                                            When you buy, tell us how it goes ?

                                            Regards

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