PC to update gradually

[Espartako]

Hello

My pc died (it was an AMD Athlon 2600+, I think I've squeezed it quite a bit ) and now I don't have much money for another one.

I've been looking at the post ”which pc to buy” (by the way, great post, it's been very helpful to me), but I'm having doubts about which configuration to use. I'm not sure if AMD or Intel. AMD has the price advantage, which is quite important, while Intel has the power. I'd like a processor that's just okay, and in the future, when new ones come out and prices drop, I'll upgrade it. If I go with Intel, I guess I'd look for a 1150 socket to have more options in the future (the motherboard I'd like something decent, it would be the most important thing so it doesn't get left behind when I'm upgrading things). I think I wouldn't use a graphics card at first, and would "rely" on the integrated one (AMD is better at this, right?). I wouldn't need a case because I'll use the old one, a metal case with good ventilation, which at its time was worth its good 120€.

What would you recommend? Just telling me one of the configurations from the "Which pc to buy" post would be enough.

Thanks

[amd125]

Budget? In the end, it is essential to know the money you have available.

[Sylver]

@amd125:

¿Presupuesto? Al final es fundamental saber el dinero con el que cuentas.

+1

[Espartako]

Sorry, I didn't realize it.

Really the budget as low as possible, as long as it allowed an update next year. I don't know if for 300-350 you could get something like that.

Thanks again.

[Sylver]

Well, at a glance, this could be good:

PcCom Energy Plus i3-3220 /4GB/1TB/GT610-2GB LP PCCOM_ENERGY_PLUSv2.2 PC Computer

Really, I would change the graphics, case, power supply… but it would increase the price. I think it can adapt well to what you want.

Regards

[Obione]

What is the computer for? The minimum if you also use a source would be a G2120, a B75 Pro3 and 2x2GB that for 170 euros they put it at home. From there to improve things depending on what you are going to do with it.

Editiong: Also comment on each piece you want to improve and the components you plan to recycle.

[amd125]

300 - 350 is a bit fair, if you have to buy a hard drive, power supply etc and you will only use the case and maybe the dvd reader.

It doesn't matter if you build Intel or AMD, in the sense that for both platforms you can find basic configurations. There are basic motherboards that only mount two memory banks and that are not worth it for overclocking or frills starting from even less than 40€

There are micros that include the graphics too, they are not worth it for current games but any change compared to what you have will be a world.

I'll give you components and rounded prices of what I would build.

Motherboard: For the future, but based on the current most powerful platform, without going to the most expensive of Intel, you should think about building an Intel 1155 platform. The 1150 or the 2011 will cost you more in micros, as they don't have cheap micros. The 1155 for around 40 and a little you can find basic things but better something more powerful. The one that Obione recommends is around 70€ but you can buy one with Z77 chipset like the Asrock Z77 Pro4 for 100€ They are very good for Overclocking and it is very solid.

Micro: So cheap to get by Intel Pentium G2130 3.1GHz 55€ as Obione says or the 2030 and you save 5€. But I would opt for the more expensive one.

Graphics, I would look for something super cheap, 40€ and run, or look for something second-hand, for 20€ and even less you can find things to get by. But there are new Ati for 30…

RAM: for 35€ you build 4 Gigas of RAM With that Windows 7 - 8 goes very well. You will expand in the future.

Hard drives 60 - 70 (1 - 2 Teras) Don't build the Green eco-friendly ones that are for data, not for operating system.

Power supply: Corsair VS550 or Nox Urano VX 650W both around 55

In summary:

Motherboard 100
Micro 55
Graphics 40
Memory 35
Hard Drive: 60 - 70
Power Supply: 55
You already have the case and dvd.

Total: 345 - 355

And you build it yourself and if you don't know we ask you. You have a super nice computer for office work, it will fly for normal tasks.

In the future if you save more money, you put a powerful 4-core micro, a more decent graphics and to go miles. If you want to save something and you won't overclock in the future, you put a more basic motherboard and you save 20 - 40 €, but don't put a cheaper micro like the celeron. And don't put 500 Gigas disks that are 10€ less.

You will tell us, I hope we can guide you.

[Espartako]

First of all, thank you very much to everyone for taking the time to answer.

I will see if I can specify something more:

The ideal thing would be to be able to play with the computer, something that I know I won't be able to do in the short term, but I hope to do it in the future when I add/update components. The computer, basically, I would use it for my degree (computer science). I don't need a top-of-the-line computer for it, quite the opposite, any IDE runs on even the most basic computer. I would also watch movies and browse the internet.

Another thing, is it better to try to go with the integrated graphics, or buy one, no matter how basic it is? That is, invest the 40€ you tell me for the graphics card in a bigger processor (and put some extra euro), and then buy a better graphics card later.

The components to improve would be (not in this order):

• expand RAM
• Add an SSD
• change/buy a graphics card
• update the processor (if required)

That is, the idea would be to have a decent motherboard (and perhaps a decent processor), and go with just enough of the rest, to expand it when I can.

Regards and thanks again.

[Espartako]

Looking a bit, I have made this configuration:

Custom budget. PcComponentes.com

How about this?

It has a decent motherboard (I doubt between the pro4m and the pro3l, a normal processor, but with a decent integrated graphics, the i3 3325, and the components that you have told me.

It would be 340€, within the budget.

[Obione]

Presupuesto a medida. PcComponentes.com

This one is worse integrated but the integrated one is not worth it for demanding games, another option would be to buy a G2120 and with the 50€ you save, expand to 2x4GB of RAM and put the 50€ in a piggy bank for a graphics card, or better yet, spend 95€ on a Gigabyte 7770 with which you can already play games.

[amd125]

If the main thing is a decent motherboard and micro to start the configuration you mention or the one from Obione seem correct to me. If you want, keep the source that they tell you. Stay a while with the integrated one, it will definitely be better than the one on your old computer, although forget about playing at high resolutions with current games, and when you can, put in a decent graphics card.

[Espartako]

I really integrate it I'm going to use it for little more than playing minecraft and some yield of the style

Many thanks to all and very kind

[Obione]

Another option, although less expandable, is to look at an FM2. It performs less per core but has 4 of them and better integrated for the same price as the 3225 (6800K + FM2A75 Pro4), which, by the way, if you're going to use integrated well, the 3225 has the same as the i5 K and the i7 series 3000.

[amd125]

@Obione:

Another option, although less expandable, is to look at an FM2. It performs less per core but there are 4 of them and better integrated for the same price as the 3225 (6800K + FM2A75 Pro4), which, by the way, if you're going to use integrated well, the 3225 has the same as the i5 K and the i7 3000 series.

It is true that building an AMD platform today in the mid-range or low-end has some very cool things, but since for him the priority is that it lasts a long time, coming from an AMD 2600 + well, for that reason, in a few years he could get a micro like the 2500K that with overclocking we all know how it performs. In fact, you can find 2500K for under 150€ second-hand, and despite having some time behind it, it's a great micro.

While it is true that if he doesn't want any trouble, a current AMD 4-core, without reaching the level of Intel, is more than decent. I would love to have one of those ;D so he can decide if in the future he will change micro, or if he wants a powerful micro from the start, although it doesn't reach the level of the 4-core Intels.

Here you can see a bit how the AMDs of various sockets perform, see if the AMD platform interests you: AMD A10 6800K review - Game performance GeForce GTX 580 - Far Cry 2 | Battlefield BC2