Card fraud among other things

[electropatoso]

Hello again.

Thank you very much for your advice, first of all.
The power supply also came with the graphics card and the ram, I think it's 500W, although if it's necessary I'll open the PC and check it.

I like the economic options you're giving me when you refer to changing only the graphics card but I have doubts about the RAM, since it only recognizes 2.75 of 4GB. Doesn't this have to do with the OS I use? (W XP SP3 to 32 bit). I'm not sure if a high-end card would work well with the ram it recognizes.

If I had to change several components I would be willing to spend around 300 euros or so to make it decent once and for all.

As for the resolution, I would like to take advantage of the 21-inch widescreen monitor.
I mean, I invested some money recently and I'm not taking advantage of it at all :wall:

[Sylver]

The brand is not necessary, what is necessary to know is the real power it delivers. Look at the +12V line and observe the amperage it marks (Example: 23A) and thus we will know the real power of that line, which is the most used and important for the graph.

It is rare that in XP it does not recognize all the RAM… are they different modules? That may be the answer...

If you are willing to spend 300€ I would go for the configuration that ferelxyx put at the beginning, it is the best for that price and by touching here and there you can adjust the 300.

Look at the resolutions that screen supports and tell us.

Greetings.

[amd125]

@electropatoso:

since it only recognizes 2.75 of 4GB won't this have something to do with the OS I use? (W XP SP3 to 32 bit).

In order for it to recognize all the RAM you have to have 64 bit Windows.

If the source is paco's brand :facepalm: you can't put in a graphics card that's too powerful. Anyway with that micro you won't make use of a very powerful graphics card. For about 100€ you have some very cool options for that computer.

[Jesus_Panella]

Although 32-bit Windows XP does not recognize all of the RAM, it should recognize at least 3.2 GB of RAM. My third computer from the firm, the Core 2 Duo, uses 32-bit Windows XP on a disk partition and recognizes 3.49 GB of RAM out of the 4 GB that are installed.

You should take a look at the BIOS and also check that the modules are the same. And remember that depending on the low-end graphics cards, those that have Turbo Caché in the case of NVidia or Hyper Memory in the case of ATI; and especially the graphics cards integrated into the motherboard, take RAM from the System.

[electropatoso]

I just opened the pc because I don't have programs that tell you the brand of hardware.

I realized that they are two different RAM modules instead of 4 cards as I said at the beginning:facepalm:, although of the same brand; one Kingston KVR 800D2N6/2G and the other Kingston KVR 800D2N5/2G, in theory 2 GB each but I repeat they are different.
Could this be the reason why I only see 2.79 of ram?

The power supply is a TALIUS TECH4-U P4-500S, I don't understand if it's good or not so I have copied what it says on the sticker:
115V–-8A 230V-----4A at a frequency of 50-60Hz.
What do you think of the power supply, is it PACO brand ;D?

[Sylver]

@electropatoso:

I just opened the pc because I don't have programs that tell you the brand of hardware.

I realized that they are two different RAM modules instead of 4 cards as I said at the beginning:facepalm:, although of the same brand; one Kingston KVR 800D2N6/2G and the other Kingston KVR 800D2N5/2G, in theory 2 GB each but I repeat they are different.
Could this be the reason why I only see 2.79 of ram?

The power supply is a TALIUS TECH4-U P4-500S, I don't understand if it's good or not so I've copied what it says on the sticker:
115V–-8A 230V-----4A at a frequency of 50-60Hz.
What do you think about the power supply, it's PACO brand ;D?

It could be the cause, it could…

Regarding the power supply... I think you got slightly confused, you should look for the line where it says "12V" exclusively, and referring to it, the amperage it has, to calculate the total power it delivers.
Although a priori the brand of the power supply is absolutely unknown to me.

Regards

[Franziskaner]

I don't know if it's a brand, ¿pako? but the only thing I can find about it is this
Tradex Informatica distributes the new Talius brand

looking for more
Talius - 500W power supply
and I think that's not it, because the p4-500-s makes me think it's older than me (which is saying something)

[electropatoso]

Well, if I'm not mistaken, it says 12 V 16A.
I'm looking on the web and the Talius brand is one of the cheapest out there, so maybe we should change that too.

Best regards!

[Franziskaner]

man it's not a marvel, that's clear, it's the cheapest one I've found with active PCB and more than one won't like it ;D
NOX NX Series 520W NXS520 Power Supply

[electropatoso]

Well, it seems to me that this power supply unit will also need to be replaced, I'm sure the computer will shut down more often because of this.

By the way, the maximum resolution of this screen is 1920 x 1080 pixels.

To summarize what I understand so far:

The motherboard and CPU are not bad, but the RAM modules are not compatible with each other and, in addition, W XP 32 bit will not fully utilize them even if they are installed in dual channel mode.
The graphics card is a disaster, I'm sure the one I removed was better, which, by the way, I fried during the change.
The power supply is more of the same, it does not provide enough power.

Now, after reading your comments carefully, I have come up with two options:

1- Buy a graphics card from the ones you recommended + a decent power supply + a RAM module that is the same as one of the ones I have.

2- Buy practically the entire tower except for the hard drive and floppy drive. Much more expensive option.

Do you have any other suggestions?

[Franziskaner]

well no, I think they are the two logical options you have available
anyway, I don't know who said: don't give bread to the hungry, teach them to fish (bad joke, the urda understood to steal ;D;D ) well to the topic here I passed you a link (of the many you can find ) to calculate APPROXIMATELY the power supply needed for each computer.
http://support.asus.com/PowerSupply.aspx?SLanguage=es-es
think that the power supply (unless it turns out to be bad) if it is quality, it is only changed for two reasons: you upgrade the computer and it gets "short" or you upgrade the computer and you get "short" of connectors
what do I want to tell you with this? well that if the little program marks 200W if you buy a PSU of 250W and in one or two years you upgrade the PC to something more decent ….. you will probably be short of W with this I don't mean that you buy one of 1000W, I'll explain, right?
once the topic is clarified I would calculate what power supply you need and if you are short then you know that the computer hangs due to lack of it, the ram I suppose you will have DDR2 I personally would buy something second hand because new ones are worth more than DDR3 :wall: but almost the best thing is:
you buy the power supply (if necessary)
save and buy something like what ferelxyx recommends
greetings

[Sylver]

That power supply doesn't deliver even 200W real in 12V... maximum precariousness.
I recommend the option of upgrading the entire system, you'll be better off, but if you don't have much money, then patch it up like everyone else. New power supply, decent for the next system (with 600W I think you'll be more than enough, unless in the future you want to build a very beastly system) and if necessary a decent graphics card, which you can find second-hand, to continue saving money.
Best regards

[electropatoso]

Decided then, I will do the following in view of the landscape:

I will buy a 600W Power Supply, a decent Graphics Card (like the one Panella or Ferelxyx said) and a RAM module twin of the ones I have. In this way I think I will get more out of the RAM to scratch the 4GB and the games will not be stuck, in addition to gaining in resources. These pieces can also be taken advantage of in view of the future.

Do you have any brand in mind for the power supply?

[Sylver]

Corsair, OCZ, Tacens…
This would be a good option, and cheap:
Corsair CX600 V2 600W Builder Series CMPSU-600CXV2 Fuente
Saludos

[electropatoso]

Thanks Sylver, it does seem like a good option ;D

[incrediboy]

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sea o no la causa de tu problema yo quitaria esa fuente pero ya, que tiene mas peligro que el bautizo de un gremlin.

para comprar otra fuente una de las que te ha dicho sylver seria buena eleccion.

[Franziskaner]

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mas barata :
NOX NX Series 620W NXS624 Fuente

[Franziskaner]

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[electropatoso]

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@incrediboy:

sea o no la causa de tu problema yo quitaria esa fuente pero ya, que tiene mas peligro que el bautizo de un gremlin.

:sisi: ya te digo, que pena el desconocimiento, acabo de leer los enlaces y la mía es una caja de bombas. ¡Maldita la hora que la compré!. Es más, me estoy planteando comprar una de gama alta para olvidarme de la fuente y en vista a futuras ampliaciones.

Y todo esto por "tengo un amigo que vende los componentes ultrabaratos y mejores que nadie". Cambié una configuración decente por enunciados engañosos como "tarjeta gráfica de 1GB 210 de gran calidad, tarjeta kingston de 2GB y fuente de 500W ultrapotente", para más INRI diciéndole al vendedor los componentes con los que iban a compartir antes de comprarlos "no hay problema, son perfectamente compatibles" me responde.
Por su desconocimiento y por el mio y ganas de vender casi me cargo el pc. En definitiva: "lo barato sale caro"

Os tengo que dar las gracias a todos. Me habeis ayudado mucho y me habeis abierto los ojos. Tengo ordenadores desde que era crio y he aprendido más esta semana que en los 20 años anteriores.
En cuanto tenga la nueva configuración escribiré en este mismo post para que sirva a los que se encuentren con el mismo problema.

Un saludazo, os debo unas cañas.-

[electropatoso]

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Por cierto, y antes de meter la gamba de nuevo. He pensado en esta compra, recordando que tengo un AMD Atlhon 64x2 Dual, Core processor 6000+ a 3.11GHz
Windows XP SP3 a 32 bit:

Sapphire Radeon HD 5850 1GB GDDR5 Refurbished 11162-99-90R Tarjeta Gráfica
Be Quiet Pure Power L8 CM 730W Modular BN183 Fuente

Acabo de pedir un módulo de memoria RAM KVR 800D2N5/2G de segunda mano, que es igual a uno de los módulos que tengo, para sacarle un poco más de rendimiento.
De la trajeta hablan muy bien, espero que mi micro le saque partido.
La Fuente es de marca pero no hay comentarios. Parece potente y silenciosa, solo espero que las conexiones no me den problemas.