i5, i7 which model?
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Sylver does not have native USB 3 without an Ivy.
Xtreme if you want to buy a cooler for light OC a Hyper 212 EVO or for 10 euros more the Scythe Mugen 3.
As for graphics I would get a 7850 Sapphire for just over 200€. The graphics market is even worse than it was a year ago.
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between the 255 of the proc, the 140 of the plate, the 90 of the ram and the 200 of the graphics, the price of the pc goes up XD
Another question, what is the difference between the 2600k and the 2700k? because the latter is 15€ more expensive when looking in other shopping areas.
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They come to be the same thing.
If you go over budget you can go down to a Z77 Pro3 and a Sapphire 7770. I would stretch with the graphics card, if the 7850 hasn't improved the performance/price that was there more than a year ago, the 7770 has gotten worse. Suffice it to say that a 5850 performing the same thing you could get on sale for 100€ more than a year ago, costing 130€ the 7770...
You can always buy 2x4 and the Pro3 or the Pro4, you will add 8 or 16GB more.
Editing: Don't buy a cooler, save that money to spend on the rest of the components.
If you want to save money on a graphics card on Amazon.es they have the 6870 for 137€ and you can get it without shipping by activating the trial premium. You could look at prices for the rest of the components there, you might save some money.
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hello,
thanks for the help
One question, wouldn't it be better to get something from Nvidia? according to what I've been able to test, they give better results... currently.
I'll look into the graphics card thing... but I don't think I'll get it, I really liked that one XD
Best regards! and thanks again
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Indeed, without an Ivy processor there is no native USB 3.0 on the Z77, which I did not mention.
Regarding graphics, I have always been pro-nVidia, but certainly ATI are very strong these days, quite economical and fresh, depending on the model. I would go for a 6870 or similar, I have the 5850 Xtreme and it is a delight.
Regarding the ASRock BIOS, there are already some captures of the UEFI BIOS out there:!
!Saving on the cooler is what I did, it is a good idea to be able to pull through until you save money.
Ah, the best way to save is to get everything on Amazon, I took advantage of the free premium and the truth is that everything arrived in 24 hours for €2.99 shipping and I saved a lot on all the components.Regards
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Indeed, without an Ivy processor there is no native USB 3.0 on the Z77, which I did not mention.
Regarding the graphics, I have always been pro-nVidia, but certainly the ATI are very strong these days, quite economical and fresh, depending on the model. I would go for a 6870 or similar, I have the 5850 Xtreme and it is a delight.
Regarding the ASRock BIOS, there are already some captures of the UEFI BIOS out there:!
!Saving on the cooler is what I did, it is a good idea to be able to hold out until you save up.
Oh, the best way to save is to get everything on Amazon, I took advantage of the free premium and the truth is that everything arrived in 24 hours for €2.99 shipping and I saved a lot on all the components.Regards
Wait tell me if I don't put an Ivy, will the usb 3.0 stay as 2.0?
The 2600k is Sandy, so that would happen in this case, I think it wouldn't be worth getting this motherboard then no? what do you think? if one of its strong points is 3.0 and it doesn't have to not allow it the proce… you'll tell me XD hahahaRegards!
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Native means that the Z77 chipset has them integrated, just like the USB 2 ports are integrated. With Sandy, you will have 2 USB 3 ports with an integrated controller on the motherboard, but as an extra addition to the chipset. With an Ivy, you would have 2 native ones from the Z77 chipset and 2 others from the NEC controller (or whichever manufacturer it is) added.
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No, no, that's not it, if it wasn't a scam it would be xDD
Native USB 3.0 means the absence of additional drivers, that is, once the board is assembled for the first time and the OS is installed, USB 3.0 works at speed 3.0 with any device prepared for USB 3.0 just by connecting it, without needing to install anything else. I don't have native 3.0 because of my processor, nor PCI-Express 3.0 (same thing, I need an Ivy) but with the drivers USB 3.0 works perfectly for me with an external Samsung Story hard drive, and the speed is really noticeable to be honest
The versatility of the board model lies above all in its expansion possibilities. If any of the latest Ivy (or a future batch) significantly improves the temperature issue and start to succeed, you can always make the jump without changing the board, with the added advantage of everything you gain (USB 3.0, PCI-E 3.0...) apart from continuing to have a very wide capacity for overclocking, as I have mentioned a couple of times.
By the way, the integrated audio on this board is also no joke, eh? It's not the same as a good external sound card, but it gives a good fight :sisi:Regards
PD: I just reiterated what Obione said, but I couldn't see his post, I don't know why. Well, it's backed up anyway xD
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Ok, perfect, so then if my family doesn't prevent me, I'll proceed to buy it XD
One more question, is there much difference between the 2600k and the 2700k?
Greetings!
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As Obione told you, they are pretty much the same, it just depends on the micro you get and the performance you can get out of it by overclocking it.
Regards
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like it depends on the micro that I get? I don't understand that :S not all 2700k are the same?
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Ningún procesador es igual. A ver, están fabricados igual, con la misma tecnología, mismos materiales, etc… pero luego hay algunos que salen más overclockeros y otros menos. Algunos piden más voltaje al llegar a cierta frecuencia y otros suben una barbaridad sin tocar el voltaje.
Lo que es seguro es que intel te va a garantizar que todos funcionen igual de bien a frecuencia stock y turbo. Ahora, más allá de esa frecuencia, ya es cuestión de suerte y maña el límite hasta donde llegue.Saludos
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de cara al O:C cada micro es un mundo . ya claro …. son componentes que se fabrican en serie con unos altos controles de calidad etc etc , pero es lo que hay , no todos suben igual . suerte
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Ok muchas gracias por la aclaracion.
La pregunta que os lanze anteriormente del Cross Fire o el SLI? al final que pasa?
SALUDOS!! :DD
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Ok muchas gracias por la aclaracion.
La pregunta que os lanze anteriormente del Cross Fire o el SLI? al final que pasa?
SALUDOS!! :DD
pues ….. depende ¿ de que depende ?
mírate esto
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Pues que depende de lo subido que tengas el micro y de lo bien que rinda el conjunto en general, más o menos como con los micros, depende de la suerte que tengas (y también de que lo hagas lo mejor posible)
Algún compañero por aquí experimentó un descenso del rendimiento al montar un Crossfire de 5850 y 5850 Xtreme. A priori son compatibles todas las gráficas de una misma serie, por ejemplo 58xx, 66xx, 67xx… pero parece ser que la variación de modelo no ayuda a la hora de obtener buenos resultados en rendimiento final.
La teoría dice que no es necesario, pero en la práctica parece ser mas conveniente que ambas gráficas sean exactamente iguales, o al menos el mismo modelo con frecuencias y capacidades idénticas, para un rendimiento óptimo.PD: La respuesta es que un buen Cross o SLI, bien montado y bien gestionado, aumenta el rendimiento considerablemente, de eso no hay duda.
Saludos
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Pues egun entiendo con el link que me pasaste Franziskaner, hacer un cross o sli es tentar a la suerte de que funcione o no fucnione no? jajajajjaja
Yo tenia pensado esto para, en principio, pillar 2 graficas "antiguas" y poder tirar con eso, lo mas que suelo jugar es BT3 y no lo frecuento, yo soy mas lolero ( league of legend ) y adicto a las Dota2 , y para eso no hace falta mucha grafica… es mas dudo si con la integrada en la placa base se podria jugar Full al lol... quien sabe! XD
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No . como te dice Sylver, teóricamente con que las gráficas sean de la misma serie basta , pero en la realidad algunos SLI Crossfire dan problemas (microsttutering) funcionar funcionan ,pero algunos juegos están mas optimizados que otros para sacar todo el rendimiento a un SLI Crossfire . No deja de ser un test sintético , pero si miras los resultados de Rules veras ati 5850 O.C = 17076 crossfire 5850 sin O.C 29486 crossfire 5850 con O.C 31085 = a 14009 puntos mas que una sola 5850 con OC . y para finalizar aqui mismo tienes unos cuantos SLI/crossfire y creo que ninguno se queja ;D
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Y el microshuttering este, se dan en todas las configuraciones? ( se note mas o menos )
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No en todas ni el todos los juegos, tampoco falla tanto, otra cosa es que se aproveche bien. Si no eres muy jugón de querer mover todo a FULL 1080p o funcionar con varios monitores o uno bien caro de mayor resolución, casi mejor que te olvides de multiGPU. Si tienes pela pilla una 670, si miras el rendimiento/precio a lo sumo una 7870.
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