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    Will the change from GTX295 to GT 640 be very traumatic?

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    • deeiividD Desconectado
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      Well, that's it, I don't play anymore and I practically don't need any graphic power. Besides, I always move in the hackintosh world and the gt 640 is much more practical for these purposes, so I have decided to change it.

      I am thinking of selling it for h2m for 95 euros or changing it directly to someone for a GT 640 and that they pay for the shipping.

      The GTX295 is a headache that is too big for the hackintosh in 10.8
      I don't usually play much, a game or two of battlefield 3…

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        The truth is that for playing BF3, I think the 640 won't be very over-spec. The 295 is still today, and with its limitations of not being DX 11, a more than decent graphics card. That said, it consumes a lot, but it can handle current games.

        The 640 is a graphics card that doesn't have much to offer, and don't take offense the owners, but for current games it doesn't have the goods. It's the typical graphics card that low-end computers have, they put 2 Gigabytes and deceive people, not much more. An Ati 7770 for very little more performs much better.

        I would look for changing it for another Nvidia with a bit more power, even if it were a 460 GTX that second-hand will be around 70-80 or something similar. The problem is that to change it outright I doubt the owner of a superior Nvidia graphics card would want to exchange it, and changing it for such an inferior graphics card...

        This graphics card says it all: Benchmark Results: Battlefield 3 : Nvidia GeForce GT 640 Review: Cramming Kepler Into GK107

        If you want to play in Full HD I think a GTX 560 is the minimum and don't expect to play with filters at full blast. From there upwards. The 460 GTX is inferior but also cheaper and if you play without filters and some details in the middle it can get the job done.

        I wouldn't play with anything inferior. I play at 1280*1024 and with an Ati 4770 that performs similar to a 4850 and slightly less than the 4870 on occasion I only saw frames in jumps. It was changing to the 5850 and at that resolution and with my equipment that has its years like going from night to day.

        You can't have everything, if you play sporadically, but BF3 is a very demanding game, either you have a mid-range graphics card minimum or there's nothing you can do. The 640 is a want but can't. To put together a graphics card like that, I'd rather go with an integrated one on the motherboard, and buy a graphics card when I save up.

        Here your graphics card doesn't show up: AnandTech - Bench - GPU12 but you can do tests. I think your graphics card can perform similar to a 560GTX and even a bit more depending on the game.

        PD: Too late? http://www.hard2mano.com/index.php/topic/114024-cambio-nvidia-gtx-295-por-gt-640/?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed

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          If you play BF and it's occasionally with that graphics then it will be nothing, I with one of mine in 1920x1080 in ultra did not go fine and now with 2560x1080 with sli it does not go fluid either, so with that at 1920x1080 I think that with medium to low requirements it will pull something that I think is a waste of the game, for something more economic perhaps a ¿650? will pull it more decent, or a 560.

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            I still haven't changed it.

            The problem is that the budget isn't for throwing rockets. And also that I want it to be natively compatible with OSX. Because of my trouble with the integrated one, the problem is that I don't have :ugly:

            The list of compatible ones is:
            GeForce GT 640
            GeForce GTX 560 Ti
            GeForce GTX 660 Ti
            GeForce GTX 670
            GeForce GTX 680

            And all of them are out of my budget except the 640.

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              The other option would be to buy the 640 directly and keep both. The investment would be around 80e.
              Can you have both plugged in and one without power or screen connector without problems?

              If I sell it for 95 counting the 80 investment I would have 170, what would that give me? (it's not that I don't know how to add, it's that you have to subtract the shipping :ugly: )

              Edit: How about the 560TI?

              http://www.hard2mano.com/index.php/topic/111738-gtx-560-ti-super-oc-gygabyte-1gb-gddr5/

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                What I would do is get rid of it and go for a 560 GTX TI as you indicate or a higher one. As you indicate that the budget is not high, that guy from hard2mano is a "geek" with all due respect to the world of graphics. He has all kinds and loves to test them, so you could sell it to him at a good price, because I know he does a lot of trading with graphics. You could even get a 560 GTX or similar from him, just ask him because I know he has quite a few graphics from what I read about him on the forum.

                The 560 GTX Ti should be enough to play in Full HD without filters in a decent way. Maybe not with all the Ultra-High, but it should run okay, which is what it's all about. Techno says that one of his alone wasn't smooth, I suppose it will depend on the map, players etc. And you have to take into account that your micro is weaker, but if you lower some details you could be able to play in Full HD. I suppose Techno is demanding seeing his equipment, with the games. If you want the game not to drop below 60 frames, you have to go for something more powerful. If you accept some drops but generally exceed 30 without problems, the Nvidia you indicate could be your graphics, but not a lower one.

                The only bad thing is that the 660 GTX is very expensive, because the 560 already has some time behind it.

                I don't think it's multiplayer, but it will help you get an idea: Optimize : Battlefield 3: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 | GeForce

                Also look on Youtube, there are many videos of how the graphics perform with BF3.

                Finally, I don't see the point of having a 295 GTX almost unused and buying another. I have a couple of crappy graphics like the 8400 GS saved in a drawer to build some equipment with parts and stuff or in case my graphics go, to get by until I buy another, but don't have a 295 almost unused when you can still get a good price for it today.

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                  I have the 560 Ti installed on 3 colleagues with a 22" monitor at 1920x 1080 in high and it works perfectly for them, I would opt for it out of all the ones you put because of the budget and said compatibility, is the 560 without Ti also not compatible with you? I think it would work well with the game and maybe you can get it cheap.

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                    It has to be TI.
                    About the h2m user you are referring to, which one is it, the one on the link I provided?
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                        Well, the GT640 will probably be insufficient for BF3, but with a second-hand GTX460, which I see shouldn't cost more than 60-70€, you could manage very well.

                        Anyway, if it helps, my brother is playing now with an 8800GTS 640MB (G80) and visually I don't see it as bad... he doesn't complain since he's not used to powerful computers xD
                        Anyway, he had an 8800GT before (mine previously) and the poor thing died... and I had nothing else on hand to leave him... for now, but I'll pass on the GTX460 soon.

                        Anyway, if you're not very picky, visually speaking, the GT640 will do the trick, but I wouldn't opt for anything less than a GTX460 ;D

                        Greetings!!

                        P.D: yes, the 8800GT will soon go to the oven, along with an HD4850, to see if I can resurrect it a bit:ugly:

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                          @deeiivid:

                          It has to be IT.
                          About the h2m user you're referring to, which one is it, the one in the link I provided?

                          zupernico is the user I'm telling you has a lot of graphics cards. If that's the case, send him a private message in case he has something. I know he buys a lot of graphics cards to run tests on them…

                          As they told you, nothing less than a 460 GTX. I would go for a 560 GTX Ti if possible. But I wouldn't build anything less than a 460 GTX to be honest. I had a 4770 which is similar in performance to an 8800GT and I couldn't run it well even at 1024... with full servers it would crash if you encountered an enemy within a meter... so at Full HD... the graphics card would probably explode :ugly:

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                            That, that, ask him if he releases any at once xD
                            Zupernico is a careful graphics hoarder... he takes everything from the old generations, 8600, 8800, 9600, 4850... he should be banned from hard2mano for attempted monopoly :ugly: he has already frustrated several purchase options for my PC2, which has been without a graphics card since I set up the crossfire :wall:

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                              @deeiivid:

                              It has to be TI.
                              About the h2m user you refer to, which one is it, the one in the link I provided?

                              Error - Hard2Mano

                              560 GTX ti 130 sells… what I tell you...

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                                I just sent you a PM, let's see how it goes.
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                                  In the end, a 560TI has fallen ?
                                  Specifically http://www.asus.com/Graphics_Cards/ENGTX560_Ti_DCII_TOP2DI1GD5/

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                                    A good change, a powerful graphic, and with less consumption than your previous graphic, in addition to being fresher.

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                                      GeForce GTX 295 vs GeForce GTX 560 Ti – Performance Comparison Benchmarks @ Hardware Compare

                                      According to this comparison, the 295 has much more raw power than the 560TI, but I suppose it will be much more optimized, especially for having dx11, which the 295 lacked.

                                      We'll see when it arrives how well it runs on OSX.

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                                        Don't trust those charts. It's best to go to the tests:

                                        AnandTech - Bench - GPU

                                        AnandTech - Bench - GPU11

                                        The 2950 GTX had a lot of raw power, but nowadays I would prefer a 560 GTX TI like yours, because of consumption, because it doesn't perform that badly, because of temperatures, because of drivers… In fact, with current games, the 560 should perform even better, and over time that gap will increase. The 295 was a very good graphics card, but today, despite maintaining its type, there are more efficient graphics cards that perform the same or better.

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                                          @amd125:

                                          zupernico is the user I tell you has many graphics cards. If so, send him a private message in case he has something. I know he buys many graphics cards to run tests on them...

                                          And so, since in HWBot he has dropped me to the 3rd position with the 9500GT, I will get my revenge :osvaisacagar:

                                          If you like the 9500GT, give me a touch deeiivid :fumeta:

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