New configuration (tips)

Bm4n

Man changing the CPU but with the same graphics you won't notice much difference, it's more logical to do it the other way around so you can play earlier; that's right you don't change everything at once.

I repeat that if you tell us what budget or what range you're looking for we can help you, if not you have some good guides pinned there

eltoffer

@Bm4n:

A guy changes the CPU but with the same graphics card you won't notice much difference, it's more logical to do it the other way around so you can play earlier; that is, don't change everything at once.

I repeat that if you tell us your budget or what range you're looking for we can help you, otherwise you have some good guides pinned there

it's that I've looked at the VGAs and with what I would buy one, I'll buy all the other components, I have considered a budget of about 750 USD as a MAXIMUM and a minimum of 600 USD for the motherboard, RAM, CPU, etc. That's a lot if I have extra, then I'll spend it on the VGA, for this I consider about 400/500 USD plus what I can save from the rest

maybe it's a lot but in the times I built the one I have I spent more or less this as you can see?

Bm4n

It reaches you, but you should spend more on the graphics. Let's say at least 200-300 for the graphics, 150 for the card, 200 CPU and 100 for RAM; and you still have some left over so you could get a 660ti-670 or a 7950-70. I calculate in €, I don't know how the real conversion is from what it costs in $.

PS. And if you want to spend a little more you can go for an i7 instead of the i5 and buy an SSD, and if there's anything left you can upgrade the graphics range to a 680 but there you will definitely be throwing money away, it's better to upgrade before you spend a lot and throw away many years, without a doubt. This is of course assuming you use a single monitor.

Obione

I don't know how easy it will be for you to find ASRock motherboards, but I haven't seen many on MercadoLibre. Check out what's available on this website:

Corsair Hydro Series H100i 240mm Liquid Cooler for Amd Intel - $1,849.99 on MercadoLibre
Intel Core I5 3570k Processor Lga1155 3.4 Ghz 5gt/s 6mb Mmu - $3,670.00 on MercadoLibre
Ga-z77-d3h Motherboard Socket 1155 Gigabyte - $2,200.00 on MercadoLibre
Patriot Viper 3 8gb (2x4gb) 1600 Ddr3 Ram - $999.00 on MercadoLibre

I've also seen a package that might be more cost-effective for you:

Premium Upgrade Kit Core I5 3570k + Ga-z77-d3h +4gb - $5,680.00 on MercadoLibre

Sell the memory if that ends up being cheaper for you ;D

All in all, at the exchange rate, it's about 600 USD.

Editing: Bm4n, I think the 200€ CPU and 100€ GPU is better for me to play Guild Wars in World vs World with hundreds of players :ugly:

Although the GPU is more noticeable than the CPU, some games require 4 cores, especially on older CPUs. Where I splurged was on the GPU, and the GPU market is more volatile.

eltoffer

@Bm4n:

You get it, but you should spend more on the graphics. Let's say at least 200-300 for the graphics, 150 for the motherboard, 200 CPU and 100 for RAM; and you still have some left over so you could get a 660ti-670 or a 7950-70. I calculate in €, I don't know how the real conversion is from what it costs in $.

PS. And if you want to spend a bit more you can go for an i7 instead of the i5 and buy an SSD, and if there's anything left you can upgrade the graphics range to a 680 but there you will definitely be throwing money away in my opinion, it's better to upgrade before you spend a lot and throw away many years, without a doubt. This of course is talking about using a single monitor.

the 400-500 USD to euros are like 300-380 and seeing the prices I feel it's a lot jajaja 200/300 euros is fine

from what I see the i7 compared to the i5 don't have much difference in games since the differences it has don't benefit the games, how do you see it?

do you think the 670 is my best option? not from the 700 range

Obione

Gigabyte Nvidia Geforce Gtx 760 2gb Ddr5 Hdmi Gv-n760oc-2gd - $ 4,759.00 en MercadoLibre

eltoffer

@Obione:

Gigabyte Nvidia Geforce Gtx 760 2gb Ddr5 Hdmi Gv-n760oc-2gd - $ 4,759.00 en MercadoLibre

this VGA is at a good price but I have some doubts

according to what I see, the core of this runs faster than the 670, the only difference is that the 670 has more CUDA cores compared to the 760, and in performance, the 670 comes out on top, according to me, the most important thing was the clock speed if everything else is equal, then which one is better and does it matter so much the CUDA cores?

PD how much does the memory influence? I see that there is an EVGA of 2gb and another of 4gb of the same model

Franziskaner

the 760 is the "evolution" of the 660 and the 670 was a model superior to the 660
comparative to the song
AnandTech | Bench - GPU13
it's like comparing a 275 with your 295
regards
P.D I am of the opinion that for certain games it is better to upgrade the graphics first and then the rest.

Bm4n

@eltoffer:

según veo los i7 a comparacion de los i5 no tienen mucha diferencia en juegos ya que las diferencias que tiene no sacan beneficio los juegos, como ves?

crees que la 670 e mi mejor opcion? de la gama 700 no

No, no hay demasiada diferencia entre el i5 y el i7 en juegos.

No, realmente la 760 está bien y la 770 se dispara de precio claro que también rinde lo suyo; lo bueno es que hay algunas ofertas para liquidar las 6xx si das con una sería lo más interesante. Mas o menos 660ti<760<670<680<770, se rumorea con la 760ti que sería algo intermedio entre la 760 y la 770.

Y en ATI tienes las 7950 y 7970 que están bastante bien.

@Obione esos vicios malsanos :ugly: los RPG siempre dando por saco con las optimizaciones.

eltoffer

we already have everything clearer, now what do you think about the motherboard? someone told me that I could use my Zalman on a specific motherboard for an i5? is that possible? or would I have to buy a cooler?

and the last question, the RAM? what do I have to consider? I remember something about speed and latency, but I can't remember, what brand is good?

Obione

Corsair, Patriot or Kingston are good for RAM, the motherboards on which you can mount your cooler are the ASRock ones but, if you go for a 3570K it wouldn't be a bad idea to buy a quality cooler or even a liquid cooling kit.

eltoffer

@Obione:

Corsair, Patriot or Kingston are good for RAM, the boards where you can mount your cooler are the ASRock ones but, if you go for a 3570K it would not be a bad idea to buy a quality cooler or even a liquid cooling kit.

ok, that cooler worked well for me on my E8400 so if I choose the z77 extreme4 will it be fine?

I almost have the new set ready thanks

Bm4n

The RAM is the usual amount, speed and latency (which really don't matter much lately); from brands like Corsair, GSkill… Or you have the bracket for that socket there (it's the same in all models of boards) or you'll have to buy the bracket (if it exists,?) or a new heatsink. PD. Are all Asrock ones that have holes for the 775?, I couldn't remember.

eltoffer

is it better to have one 8gb ram module or two 4gb ones? or does it only matter for expansion and convenience?

Franziskaner

@eltoffer:

is 8gb of ram better than two 4gb modules? or does it only matter for expansion and convenience?

if you install two identical modules you get dual channel (in sockets 1/3 2/4) if not, you only get single channel.
in short, if you install an 8 GB module you will have 8 Gb in single channel, if you install two 4 Gb (and you install them in slots 1/3 or 2/4) you will have dual channel (which is better) the difference is that if you install 4 Gb modules and you expand the ram in the future you can have a maximum of 16 GB and if you install one 8 Gb and you expand you will have 16 GB expandable to 32 GB (which is unnecessary for normal use, nowadays)
regards
P.D if the PC is for gaming buy two identical 4GB modules

eltoffer