Problem with epson stylus, did I teach it to fly? :mad:

[Franziskaner]

well that's the problem with the epson stylus i taught it to fly :mad: i've had the printer for quite a few years (and i use it quite rarely) the first cartridges were the original ones the second ones too the third ones were pirate ones, in these the black one started to give problems (brand INK) yesterday i bought two cartridges (black ones at 3.50 und) brand iberjet and this morning i assembled it after ONE HOUR AND A BIT i had to leave my house because otherwise i would teach the **$%%&$&***$&&%$%& of the printer to fly, i consider myself a patient person, but i couldn't take it anymore, either it didn't print or it marked an ink shortage when i finally got it to print …... it only does it in color :mad::mad: i called the manufacturer of the black cartridge (because nowhere does it say that it's compatible with my model) to kill the store employee where i bought them, and i confirmed that they are 100% compatible with my model :wall::wall:
in W7 i can't find the option to clean injectors so i used the 4sec stop button option (the printer makes noise for a while but it does nothing should i print something?)
i have no idea how many sheets of paper with the windows logo i have.
did i teach it to fly? to clarify i live on the eighth floor and people walk by on the street :eoh: but if it continues like this.....
thank you very much in advance for any kind of help.

[Sylver]

I think the issue is clear, to save you trouble (and money), take the "cursed" cartridge back to the seller, and get your money back because you have come to the conclusion that it is NOT compatible. Then, buy an original cartridge and install it, when you test it you will know if the problem is with the printer or the "supposedly compatible" cartridge.
Seriously, it's better this way... otherwise you might even reinstall the drivers and get nothing...
Good luck, let us know how it goes

Best regards

[cobito]

With the brands I have this concept:

HP: cartridges with injectors. Less quality but by changing the injector with each cartridge these problems are avoided. Good if it is going to be used sporadically.

EPSON: built-in injectors. Only the cartridge is changed. Better quality but I know many cases of blocked injectors (and no solution) due to non-use. Good for printing more often.

Take your EPSON to a recycling center and if you need a printer, buy one that suits your uses and needs.

[Franziskaner]

Sylver the cartridge is indeed compatible with my printer.
cobito the option you give me of the "eco-point" …... in my area it is called "green point or Deixalleria " and honestly I worked for a good season for TERSA and SEMESA and the issue of recycling :facepalm:
tomorrow I will try to clean the injectors with hydrogen peroxide or industrial cleaning solvent (with alcohol injected into an old black cartridge I tried it today without results)
if I don't get results I suppose I will listen to cobito and I will have to get an HP
thanks for the answers, I will keep you informed ;D

[Sylver]

But man, try with an original cartridge to see if that's it, who's to say it's not the culprit? I would rule that out before getting into a tight spot and clean points…

Regards

[ferelxyx]

well I have always had EPSON and I have never had similar problems and it has been stopped for up to 6 months without use and nothing

try to clean them and if not buy a new one that are cheap
you have this one for 59 euros, Epson Expression Home XP-305 WiFi and they reimburse you up to 50 euros, it comes out as a gift

regards

[deeiivid]

If you have to change it, do what ferelxyx tells you.

I bought one very similar to that and so far I am happy. It almost costs what they give you as ink with the printer… xD And with that offer already...

[Bm4n]

But Epson didn't have their injectors replaced separately? I'm a bit disconnected because lately I only use HP, but even with HP they have models especially in the office range in which the ink and the injector are changed separately, so the cartridge comes out cheaper and you change the injector when you need it. Of all, I've gone back to lasers, although I still use HP, but I just don't get along with the ink.

[Yorus]

In mid or high ranges I don't know how it will be, but in low ranges it's like Cobito says, in HP the injector and cartridge are in the same element and in Epson the cartridge is on one side and the injectors are in the machine. I had a Stylus a long time ago, and it died because of the injectors and I stopped sending it to be repaired, and that was when the printers were more expensive, now in the low range the set of cartridges is worth more than the printer.

[Tecnho]

I've had my new printer for a week and a bit and I've gone from hating them to falling in love with this one, it's a Brother brand, a DCP-J315W, it costs around 70€ and it's wifi, I don't know about other models but I've tried other brands, both laser and inkjet, and this is definitely the one I like the most, very easy connection, easy to change cartridges, the software it comes with is great, mobile app and it works perfectly, the ink is cheap, the compatible one has 3 sets to change 3 times for 20€.
Just for the software and how well it works, I'm sticking with this brand for now, the use I make of it is just printing documents and I don't need much at home.

[Bm4n]

I am very pro HP, especially in inkjet, without a doubt, in laser it is another story. And I am also very happy with the wifi and that's because it was a gift, otherwise I would not have bought it with wifi, but it is extremely easy to print from the ipad, you don't even need software, just press the button and print.

[Tecnho]

Well, I've had 3 HP inkjet printers and I hate all of them, I thought the cartridges were very expensive and the software was rubbish, and the ones I had weren't exactly cheap, I had an Epson that was cheap and worked well but broke down too soon, I used a Samsung laser printer at work and it works really well and the software is pretty good, although I hate Samsung's customer service.

[ferelxyx]

well, in laser, the one I used the most was the one I gave in BN and color was the OKI, we used it to advertise the store
it had the ink separate from the drum and one day it stopped working and we reset the drum (toner) counter
and to keep going,

regards

[garfield]

And since I'm a stickler, I'm going to explain why you shouldn't use clone or refillable cartridges in our printers. The same goes for lasers, unless we get the same type of toner (which there are) from the machine manufacturer. Mind you, with a machine that costs €30, I couldn't care less, but there are machines that Epson is currently releasing where the cartridge costs €50 and lasts for 2000 pages, and they don't do too badly. Explanation: The inks that are normally used are pigmented inks, which are inks that use a powder to give color to the base. I say normally, because they are usually the ones used in Epson and HP. The other type are usually dye-based inks, which are transparent. A brand that I know uses or used dye-based inks is Brother. These have the added problem that, since they don't use pigments, clone inks tend to be more liquid than the originals, soaking the sponges that collect ink from the cleanings. They have less definition, and you can tell because the ink spreads out along the sides of the letters, giving very little definition. That's why dye-based inks don't give photo quality. If they sold you the machine with dye-based inks and told you that you could print photos, they lied to you. Both are water-based, but they need solvents to fix the ink, in addition to resins and other chemicals. That's why they're used domestically. The same goes for lasers, refilling them with toner that isn't the one for the machine. It ends up filling the machine inside with toner, and since toner is powder, it eats up the gears and other moving parts of the machines. But that's where you can find OKI toner with the chips to refill them, which are the machines I've used the most for graphic printing. And this is my toy: Epson SureColor SC-S30600 - Epson I almost forgot. To unclog the printheads, you shouldn't inject the cleaning solvent, but rather use a syringe with a silicone tube to suck up the ink that the printhead has inside. This way, we don't clog the pigment further, which is what usually happens with excessive cleanings or when injecting solvent into the printhead.

[whoololon]

It's just that the issue isn't very mysterious. As Garfield says and was noted earlier, Epsons usually die from being left idle for too long, regardless of whether you use original or alien cartridges. And not because they can't be fixed, but because in most cases, these are machines that cost less new than sending them in for repair. With HP there isn't that problem, if it happens to you, you change the cartridges and everything is fine.
(By the way, the first thing that goes wrong with Brother machines is the fuser.)
If you've had good luck with it, send it in for repair, if not, it's not worth it.
Listen to Cobito and get a printer that suits your needs, and if it's going to be idle for a long time between uses, maybe you should look at other options.

[Franziskaner]

well, unless you resort to using a "payphone" ;D
best regards and thanks

[garfield]

Man, if it's not in color, you can buy a black laser like a Samsung that I've seen for 60€ and with a toner of 2000 pages. What I would look at before getting any machine is the cost of consumables. A 50€ machine is no good if the toner costs 60€, because even if you think you can get another new one for that money, those toners that come with the machine are courtesy, so they have half the pages of a new one. And they are also coming out with high capacity toners and in places where the toner for that machine is sold and the chips to make the toner full.

[Franziskaner]

that is the problem I print sporadically both in BN and in color in BN some text (very little) and in color some Auto Cad parts (and I like the dimensions in red) and some map of Pyrenees topography / very few also I rarely use GPS
greetings

[whoololon]

Don't complicate your life.
Retire the Seiko, get a decent mid-range laser printer, for BN they are the best in terms of quality/price per page and you can leave it parked for months without any problem if you take care to buy a dust cover for it.
For photos and color work, a USB stick. Almost all copy shops can help you out with that, so you don't have to keep a machine that you only use occasionally.