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    What to buy with 80 euros? doubts between several… Can you help?

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      battman
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      Hello everyone, again, as always when I have hardware problems I decide to write to see what you advise me, you are always very helpful ;D

      Well, a few months ago I bought a power supply following the advice of forum colleagues who also explained and helped me understand and learn about the subject. Given the excellent experience I repeat.

      A few days ago my XFX 8800 GTS 512 died. It suffers from the typical failure of vertical lines after the fatal freeze. The truth is that I can't complain about it, I've squeezed it to the max and I've had it since it came out on the market, besides it survived the explosion of the old power supply and everything. Anyway, it still shows the image, with vertical lines and that, but the PC already tells me that it doesn't recognize any Nvidia graphics card plugged in, and although I could opt for "baking" it, I pass, I give it quite a fight and seeing the experience of other colleagues I think I would fall into an eternal loop of baking and re-baking.

      So, I need a new one, and I need to decide soon since now I have 80 extra euros that I will stop having at any moment if I don't take advantage and spend them on this ^^U.

      That's the budget, 80 euros, and I've been looking for a couple of days on PCcomponentes, looking at benchmarks, comparisons, and so on, and as I can't decide, I ask you what you think. I've already come to the conclusion by myself that for that price, the choice must be Ati (besides my processor is AMD, so better than better), but in that range of 80 euros I see several models of the 6770 1GB GDDR5 that oscillate between 70 and 80, and as not always the saying "the more expensive is the best" is true, I ask you because I can't quite see what advantages they have over each other, or for example, why the refurbished model is the most expensive, when besides being refurbished, it's slower.

      Anyway, you explain to me more or less what differences there are between them being "the same" and you tell me which one is the best to get?

      I will use it of course to play, mostly Skyrim, and from there down, at resolutions of 1280x1024 or at most HD720.

      Greetings and many thanks in advance, I will remain attentive to the thread because as soon as you give me a verdict I will make the purchase, and as last time, once I have it I will explain how it ends and so on. I leave links to the models among which I think I should doubt.

      Sapphire Radeon HD 6770 1GB GDDR5 Refurbished 11189-99-90R Graphics Card
      Sapphire Radeon HD 6670 1GB GDDR5 11192-14-20G Graphics Card

      pd: Also, if you know of any better graphics card at that price in another store, then guide me ;D

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        G0D1N0
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        **€/FPS

        1,62 - 7770
        1,69 - 7750 VTX
        1,88 - 7750
        2,23 - 6670**

        **MSI R7770-PMD1GD5

        Sapphire HD7750-1G

        GigaByte GV-R775OC-1GI

        VTX3D Radeon HD 7750

        ASUS EAH6670/DIS/1GD5**

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          Obione Veteranos HL @G0D1N0
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          Get the MSI that your partner gets you, it's worth stretching your budget by 20 euros.

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            battman @Obione
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            Many thanks for the response G0D1N0, great and varied, I understand that in order of quality by price.

            Obione I will try to stretch the budget, but the fact is that my PC is still the same one for which I bought the source a few months ago, and the truth is that the processor and ram will continue to "hamper" the work of the graphics,

            (athlon 64 x2 3800+ and 4gbs gddr2), I don't have extra money for anything in my current situation, and I already know that for a little more you get more performance, but as we also know, by that rule, for 50 more I have much better graphics, and at 150 to 200 I already have first-rate graphics, and at 200 to 400 I renew the PC and etc ^^U. I need a contained investment that gets me out of trouble and fulfills the role, and in a few months, if the situation changes I will renew the PC and we will look more finely, now I just wanted to clarify a bit the issue of quality between the "economic" cards since there is a lot of supply, and quite confusing with several models of each chip etc.

            I will see if I can afford the MSi, if not using the companion's list I will take the best I can pay "with what I have in my pocket" among those that he has proposed.

            Many thanks to both of you, as always in this community helping with interest and first-rate info. I will tell you which one I get and how well it adapts to the PC, and how well it goes. Many thanks to both ??

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              amd125 Veteranos HL @battman
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              I also opt for the 7770 if possible. If not, a 7750. Your micro, if you could do some overclocking, the better, and don't worry about the RAM, I have 4 Gigabytes and I play at the same resolution with the equipment in my signature and I run games like Far Cry 3 or BF3 without any problem at high details.

              The 6670 almost not, because for a little more the 7750 performs decently at your resolution. In some games it performs almost equal to the 7770 and in others, well, a little less

              AnandTech | Bench - GPU12

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                Obione Veteranos HL @amd125
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                battman we're talking about a few euros, so in a while you can get an i5 series 4000 and keep the graphics card. With a little more money you can get a nice graphics card and have a computer for a long time.

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                  fjavi @Obione
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                  Well I would look for second-hand, find 5850, 5870, maybe some 470 and even though they are older than the 7000 they will be clearly more powerful, although I would need to have a more decent source, but the 80€ seem like a bad price to buy something new, I should also find cheap second-hand 68x0, before a 7750 I prefer one of those I said.

                  Although if you have that micro it is better something low range, because a 470 will not perform well.

                  regards

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                    ferelxyx Veteranos HL @fjavi
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                    you can also buy these

                    GTX650 - 97 euros

                    Geforce GTX 650 - 98 euros

                    regards

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                      G0D1N0 @ferelxyx
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                      battman, stretch to the 7770 from 94€ if you can because it is the best in performance/price by far

                      80€ max? Then go for the 7750 which performs 50% better than a 6670:

                      **80€ - VTX3D Radeon HD 7750

                      70€ - ASUS EAH6670/DIS/1GD5**

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                        battman @G0D1N0
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                        Well you've convinced me, because you're right and I know it. Thank you very much, in the end I'll hold out for a few more days without a graphics card, by the end of this month I think I'll be able to afford what the 7770 costs, and being MSI then better, although I've never had graphics cards from their brand, what you usually hear is very bad things about Sapphire in terms of reliability and that.

                        The truth is I've always been an Nvidia guy, but in this case I feel like trying an Ati, because I know that for less money they give more performance and to see how well a good Ati performs with my Amd processor.

                        Thank you again to everyone for the contributions and suggestions. One last thing, is that I've never bought from Amazon. Pccomponentes gives me a lot of confidence because I have the physical store about an hour away, and if something goes wrong I can go to complain etc, and I already know them from buying other times. But Amazon being a non-specialized seller I don't know how they behave when there are problems with hardware, since when buying graphics cards you have to take that into account, it's not uncommon for them to arrive defective (unfortunately I have more than one experience in that).

                        Can you tell me something about this topic, is it convenient to buy from them, do they handle complaints well and quickly change the hardware if it's defective?

                        Goodbye, and when I get the graphics card I'll tell you how it goes with it. If by the end of the month you find out about any deal let me know, I'll be watching the thread ;D

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                          emeritoaugusto @battman
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                          You will have fewer problems buying on amazon online than at pccomponentes in the physical store.

                          Buy on amazon without any complex.

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                            amd125 Veteranos HL @emeritoaugusto
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                            Amazon I tell you how it works with an example of mine:

                            Last year I bought the mobile phone with them. It arrives and it fails. I call on a Monday to tell you something, they send me an email with "stickers" that is, pieces of paper with their address so that I stick on a box and return the mobile to them. Cost zero, well, the box… :ugly: because with their stickers it doesn't cost me anything to send them the mobile. ;D

                            Well the next day the courier brought me another mobile... with that I tell you everything. They are very good. Already if it fails after a month I don't know if you will cost zero for shipping or if you have to process RMA with the manufacturer, but really as a company they are very good. They gave me the option to return the money, the same mobile or another. That is, you did what you wanted, you were not obliged to buy anything from them if you returned the product.

                            In addition it has good prices and although you pay cheap shipping, in a week at most it generally arrives. I have bought with them the mobile, case, screen protectors, a mouse, a desk lamp and a memory card. Everything perfect except a protector that didn't arrive... so email to the seller and in 3 days I had another free shipping with protectors at my house. I said, a pass as a company.

                            I'm sorry for traditional stores, but Amazon in many products has very good prices, shipping is cheap and fast and they are serious. I think that for the consumer it is good to have Amazon in Spain.

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                              battman @amd125
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                              Hello everyone again, first of all, THANK YOU.

                              I have finally found a moment to sit down and enter the forum and write, since I always like to close the posts where I ask questions and you who are more up to date advise me.

                              On this topic, I finally bought the Sapphire 7770 HD about a month ago (I had to wait a little longer to have the amount available for whims, but you convinced me that it was worth that little extra, and you were right).

                              I bought the OC edition, which although I think it is exactly the same as the normal 7770HD, for one euro more it cost, it already came with the overclocking values of that overdrive set by Sapphire which I imagine will have some advantage in case of failures or whatever :ugly:

                              I must say it runs like a missile, it hardly heats up (going from seeing my old graphics card working at double the temperature usually, to this one that hardly gets to 40 or 45 when pushing it, surprised me a lot).

                              For now it works perfectly, and I am delighted with it, besides, compared to the old xfx 8800gts, this one is tiny, so the temperatures of the equipment in general have dropped a few degrees.
                              The performance in games with the same equipment I had with the 8800 is clearly visible, despite the burden that the rest of my equipment supposes for what the graphics card could give.

                              So, it is said, that the purchase following your advice has been the Sapphire HD 7770 OC of 1Gb gddr5, since when I went to get the MSI it was sold out, and all the references of this model of Sapphire were positive.

                              Now I would like to ask you here and now what you think I could buy with a 200 euro budget (and it is 200, not 220 or 250 :ugly:) in terms of processor, motherboard and ram, since having this graphics card has already piqued my interest and I am saving that amount little by little to update the equipment a little, and hold on with it, let's say a couple of years or a year and a half more, before moving to a really new equipment if God wills and things go well.

                              I have been looking at 4 core AMD processors, but I am getting a bit confused with what type of socket for the motherboard, what processor etc, if someone is good at advising me at those prices what is the best on the market right now, I will follow your advice to the letter, given the great help you have always provided me and the wise advice you give me.

                              If not, thank you very much for the recommendation of the graphics card, and when I have narrowed down the processor to buy I will ask you to see if you think it's good.

                              A hug and thanks again for everything ?

                              PD: just in case I remember that my current humble equipment consists of an AMD x64 dual core 3800+, 3 gigas of ddr2 ram at 800, the brand new hd 7770 1gb gddr5, and as a power supply I have a NOX recommended also here in the forum a few months ago, I don't remember now exactly if it's 620 or 660. And as is evident although I still use things like skyrim with mods at resolutions of 1280x1024 with filters and even up to 1680x1050 without AA above 30 fluid frames, for other things I am already very tight, and in the case of skyrim of the HD textures, not to mention… So moving from that to 4 cores and a little more ram gives me enough to be fully happy for one or two more years, while we see if the economic situation improves and it's possible to move to bigger things.
                              Thank you very much.

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                                Bm4n @battman
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                                I'm glad that the 7770 works well for you, it's a good graphics card at an economic price and it's balanced for a computer that isn't very expensive. Be careful about upgrading your PC because now you update the CPU and motherboard and then you'll want more jejeje.

                                You have some great guides on the complete configurations section, take a look, I would wait for the i3 haswell 100€ + a cheap Z87 motherboard (or maybe with a cheaper chipset since manufacturers are supposed to allow OC too) 70-80€ + 2x4GB RAM 65€ = ~240€ and you go over budget with 200€ today... Save more so that with 400€ you can buy something more substantial.

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                                  ferelxyx Veteranos HL @Bm4n
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                                  something like this
                                  well the FX series is pretty good 4130 - 88 euros and 4300 - 98 euros
                                  Gigabyte GA-970A-D3 - Motherboard - 75 euros
                                  G.Skill Ripjaws X DDR3 1600 PC3-12800 4GB 2x2GB CL9 - 38 euros
                                  regards
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