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      jose_184
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      Hello. I wanted to get a 7950 but since I found the gtx 670 for almost the same price I'm going to get this one which I think is a better buy. Of these models which one would you go for?
      Msi gtx 670 oc 2gb (turbine model) 256 euros

      Zotac amp edition gtx 670 2gb (dual fan) 266 euros

      Palit gtx 670 2gb 245 euros (turbine type)

      How is palit? The one that convinces me the most is msi even though it's turbine type because I trust the manufacturer more even though it might be very noisy, right?
      Thank you very much

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        What prices are we talking about? 670 new ones are seen as few and still expensive, if you want price the normal thing is to have the doubt between 7950 (Gigabyte OC or Sapphire Vapor-X) and 760 (Gigabyte OC), about 250€.

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          @jose_184:

          Hello. I wanted to get a 7950 but since I found the gtx 670 for almost the same price, I'm going to get this one, which I think is a better deal. Which of these models would you choose?
          Msi gtx 670 oc 2gb (turbine model) 256 euros
          Zotac amp edition gtx 670 2gb (dual fan) 266 euros
          Palit gtx 670 2gb 245 euros (turbine-like)

          How is Palit? The one that convinces me the most is Palit, even though it's turbine-like because I trust the manufacturer more, although it might be very noisy, right?
          Thank you very much

          I don't see which models you're considering. Palit has good models and worse ones. The Jetstream is good, but you have to check the series models because some reference 670s are very bad. I'm referring to the ones with a short PCB. If it has the PCB of the 680 then it's better, especially if you're planning to do SLI.

          Anyway, I don't think it's a good time to buy a 670. Maybe in a few weeks the one that costs that much will be the 680. AMD cards are about to be released and it's very possible that the 600 series and the 7000 from AMD will drop in price, even that you'll see good deals. That's why I would wait a couple of weeks to see how things move with the release of AMD.

          It's even possible that a 760ti will come out and enter the price range of those 670s. It all depends on the performance and price of the new AMD series.

          regards

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            jose_184 @fjavi
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            I have already edited the post and added the images that I was previously using from my mobile. They all cost around 250 euros, 246 for the palit, 256 for the msi and 266 for the zotac.
            For 250 euros, I think it's a better buy than the 7950, don't you?

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              fjavi @jose_184
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              @jose_184:

              I've already edited the post and added the images that I was previously viewing from my mobile. All of them are around 250 euros, 246 for the Palit, 256 for the MSI, and 266 for the Zotac.
              For 250 euros, I think it's a better buy than the 7950, don't you?

              Of the ones you're offering, I would go for the Zotac without hesitation. The others have short PCBs, and I'm sure the Zotac will be cooler and quieter, and it will also perform a bit better since it's the AMP model that comes with factory OC.

              I see much better quality in the Zotac, the others seem like the short models and I think they're pretty bad, even though in the end they'll perform like a 670, but the quality of components and the heatsink seems much better in the Zotac.

              The assemblers shouldn't be a problem, they're all decent, but I guess the Zotac will offer more warranty, it will give the two years from the store plus three more years if you register it on their website.

              regards

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                jose_184 @fjavi
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                @fjavi:

                Of the ones you put, I would go for the Zotac, the others are short PCB, surely the Zotac is cooler and quieter, besides it will perform a bit more since it is the AMP that comes with OC from the factory.

                I see much more quality in the Zotac, the others seem like the short models and I think they are pretty bad although in the end they will perform what a 670, but the quality of components and heatsink seems much better in the Zotac.

                regards

                Thanks. And quality price do you think it's a good buy the 670? I should buy it soon to not keep using the integrated one.

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                  fjavi @jose_184
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                  @jose_184:

                  Thanks. And do you think the 670 is a good value for money? I should buy it soon to not keep using the integrated one.

                  Well, 266€ I don't think it's bad, the 760 costs a little less but it's worse and it performs less, most 670s are over 300€, so in terms of price it's not bad, although in a few weeks it's possible to see other better offers.

                  But if you're in a hurry, I definitely think it's a good card in that price range, the others, even if they are cheaper, seem like a worse option to me.

                  What kind of equipment do you have?

                  Best regards

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                    jose_184 @fjavi
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                    @fjavi:

                    Man, 266€ I don't think it's bad, the 760 costs a little less but it's worse and has less performance, most 670s are over 300€, that's why in price it's not bad although in a few weeks it's possible to see other better offers.

                    But if you're in a hurry I certainly think it's a good card in that price range, the others although cheaper seem like a worse option to me.

                    What equipment do you have?

                    regards

                    Thanks. The one I liked was the 7950 vapor x although it would come out to 240 or 250, so almost the same as the 670.

                    This is my equipment currently:
                    Tower: Antec three hundre two + scythe gt 800rpm
                    Power supply: Antec hcg 520W
                    Motherboard: gigabyte g31m-s2l
                    Processor: Quad core q8200 + hyper 212 evo heatsink
                    Ram: 4 gb Kingston ddr2 800
                    Hard drives: ssd samsung 840 evo 120 gb + seagate barracuda 7200.11 1 Tb

                    From now until the end of the year I want to replace my micro and motherboard and put an fx 8320 and 8 gm of ddr3 ram at 1866. What scares me the most is that I might be a bit tight on power although the antec can handle whatever you throw at it.jeje

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                      So get a 3570 that consumes less :ugly

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                        jose_184 @Obione
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                        @Obione:

                        Pues pilla un 3570 que traga menos :ugly:

                        Pues igual tengo que hacer eso. El miedo que me da es que en juegos futuros pienso que rendirá más el fx al ser de 8 núcleos. Tu también me ves justo de potencia? Otra opción sería pillar el fx y otra fuente aunque estoy encantado con la Antec que tengo.

                        PD: Entonces ves mejor compra la zotac 670 amp que una 7950 vapor x? La pediría hoy seguramente. Muchas gracias por la ayuda.

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                          i5 150/250 series and with OC, FX 200/350, approx loads. The GTX will not reach 200, although you will not encounter peak consumption in micro etc and GPU, in 12V you have 480W which for a good OC with the FX will be just enough.

                          Editing: The FX will improve but, I think there will still be more games that perform better with an i5. As for the Zotac, I see it well. I would pair it with the 3570@4.2GHz or until the EVO can keep it at 70º. You don't need to spend a lot of money on the motherboard, between a Z77 Pro3 and a Z77-D3H over 100€ is already good.

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                            I would wait a couple of months for the graphics card, as for the micro, Intel whenever you can.
                            I am skeptical that an FX will outperform its i5 equivalent based on "patches".

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                              If you have a card to keep playing games, it's a very sensible option to wait and see how the 8800s turn out, otherwise, it's up to you, I saw an offer and I went for it but my idea was to wait :ugly

                              Editing: The FX issue is in the programming, look at Crysis 3, an 8320 overclocked is the best micro performance/price by far. We'll see how things turn out later.

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                                @Obione:

                                If you have a card to keep playing games, it's a very sensible option to wait to see how the 8800s turn out, otherwise, it's up to you, I saw an offer and I jumped at it, but my idea was to wait :ugly.

                                Editing: The FX issue is in the programming, look at Crysis 3, an 8320 overclocked is the best performance/price micro by far. We'll see how things turn out later.

                                Waiting would indeed be the most sensible thing, but I don't think I can hold out with integrated graphics for that long.jeje

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                                  Last question and I stop annoying you.jeje. I've seen the 7950 boost for 225 (although without games since I wouldn't buy it at pcc). Is it worth paying 40 euros more for the 670 amp from zotac? If I'm going to spend those amounts, I wouldn't mind paying the difference if it's worth it and there's a big difference in performance.
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                                    AnandTech | Bench - GPU13

                                    Sapphire has had a not very fine time with the 7800 but well, they usually have a good price and none of my previous 4 cards have been bad for me. I was telling you a few messages back about Vapor-X/Gigabyte because they have better cooling and the chip is lovable ?

                                    In summary, similar performance/price, depending on the game, one or the other performs better.

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                                      Thanks. I saw that the gtx 670 consumed about 170W, the thing is that looking at this page an analysis of the gtx 670 amp says that it consumes more than double:
                                      HardWare Analysis: Content / Graphics cards / Graphics card ZOTAC GeForce GTX 670 AMP! Edition

                                      Are those data true? According to what it says with maximum load it almost consumes the same power that my power supply gives me. Is that possible?

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                                        It will be for the whole team, the consumptions I gave you are for micro team and for GPU alone. PD: I haven't looked at the link :ugly:

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                                          @jose_184:

                                          Thanks. I saw that the gtx 670 consumed about 170W, the thing is that looking at this page an analysis of the gtx 670 amp says it consumes more than double:
                                          HardWare Analysis: Content / Graphics cards / Graphics card ZOTAC GeForce GTX 670 AMP! Edition

                                          Is that data correct? According to what it says with maximum load it almost consumes the same power as my power supply gives me. Is that possible?

                                          In your system both cards will be limited, for me right now in gaming systems there is an important difference in favor of Intel, I refer to new architectures like 1155 or 1150, AMD although they have more cores in the end it works like a kind of HT, but the problem I see is not if the CPU is the architecture, AMD would need a new socket and modernize the bus, also put the CPU the Pcie3, sata and USB controllers as Intel does, because Intel already has a few socket changes and has gone from FSB to QPI and to DMI also that does not give retrocompatibility more than for one generation, that is in 1155 it brings out series 2xx0 and 3xx0 and in 1150 it brings out series 4xx0 and maybe 5xx0, so it advances more

                                          Giving a lot of retrocompatibility ends up hindering the architectures and the proof is the 775 you have, the sockets that came out after are clearly better, I refer to the use of graphics cards, also of SLI or CF, I don't know how that new API they announce will influence but I don't think there will be miracles.

                                          Then the zotac AMP is possible even to consume less than the reference models, because the temperature influences the consumption, on the web they usually give consumption of the whole equipment, it's not just the graphics.

                                          regards

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                                            Obione, how much did you get the gtx 760 for if you can let me know. Because if it usually costs around 250 and you got it with a good deal it could be a very interesting option.jeje

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