Microsoft Windows 10

[kalevala]

@kynes:

I had no doubts, I have not had a problem with any game on my laptop, and I have the feeling that the system uses less processor, which is important on relatively old computers like mine, a core2 duo from 2009. The latest rumor is that they will include in a patch the RAM compression to limit as much as possible the use of the paging file, if you don't have enough RAM you will notice it a lot (although on an alienware I don't think that will be your biggest problem :D)

Thanks Kynes. The alienware comes with "only" 8gb, but I hope it will be more than enough. I'm getting on the win10 bandwagon, do you think the upgrade will be enough or should I do a clean install (if that's possible). I'm worried that some of the alienware drivers will stop working if I mess everything up, and I don't know if it will come with driver discs, etc.

Regards!

[kalevala]

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[whoololon]

@kalevala:

Thanks Kynes. The alienware comes with "only" 8gb, but I hope it's more than enough. I'm getting on the win10 bandwagon, do you guys think the upgrade will be enough or should I do a clean install (if that's even possible). I'm worried that some of the alienware drivers will stop working if I do everything myself, and I'm not sure if it will come with driver discs, etc.

Saludos!

Indeed, there are users who are having problems after upgrading to W10. Similar to the Sony case, there are Alienware models for which the upgrade is not recommended.
Although the X51 R2 does appear among the supported models, it's better to wait a couple of months until Dell prepares a more refined driver package.

8 GB is what most of us mortals have at the moment, I don't think you'll have problems in that regard. ;D

Edit: Regarding the upgrade in general, I found this regarding KB3035583. Paranoia?

[kalevala]

Thanks Whololon,
I will do a little research to see what people say about compatibility issues, but it's wise to wait a couple of months to see what happens

Best regards

[Kernel1.0]

They say you will be able to download Windows 10 from the Microsoft website, install it and use it without entering a product key.
You will have a completely functional Windows for free but illegally.
Here I have existential doubts, if they let you update pirated copies with a free Windows or if I download that same Windows directly, do I stop having a pirated copy?
From what I understand, in both ways you are in limbo between legal and illegal, good and evil, angel or demon.
Microsoft does not recognize you.

[whoololon]

@Kernel1.0:

They say you'll be able to download Windows 10 from the Microsoft website, install it and use it without entering a product key.
You'll have a completely functional Windows for free but illegal.
Here I have existential doubts, if they let you update pirated copies with a free Windows or if I download that same Windows directly, do I stop having a pirated copy?
From what I understand, either way you're in limbo between legal and illegal, good and evil, angel or demon.
Microsoft doesn't recognize you.

You won't have a "completely functional" W10, the operability is limited to test functions.
Maybe here they explain it in a more concise way.

Edit: But at this point we already know how it goes, and no security system they put on it will be foolproof... I mean infallible. :ugly:

[Nemo]

If you download the ISO from the Microsoft website (well, actually you download a program from which a USB installation or an ISO is created) you will have the system installed, but not activated, so it will not be 100% legal until you enter the corresponding serial.
On the other hand, what I have not tried is to enter the serial of a Windows 7/8/8.1 directly into Windows 10.
But if you have your previous original Windows, you will not have to pay for a Windows 10 license again. However, you will have to use the equivalent version of Windows 10.
It is not valid to have a Windows 7 home and want to install Windows 10 pro, for that you do not have a license if you do not upgrade from Windows 7 ultimate or Windows 8 pro.

From my Spectrum +2A with Windows 10

[whoololon]

That's right.
On the other hand, if we choose to download the W10 ISO image using the Microsoft Media Creation Tool, we get several versions of the OS: Home, Home single language and Pro, as well as the N.

You can download the edition you want, for 32 and/or 64 bits… and keep it in the drawer in case the whistle blows someday. :ugly:

[Kernel1.0]

Windows 10 searches for and disables pirated video games Is Windows giving a gift and charging video game developers?:rolleyes:

P.D. I already know that no one here uses illegal software

[whoololon]

@Kernel1.0:

Windows 10 searches for and disables pirated video games Is Windows giving a gift and charging video game developers?:rolleyes:

PD I already know that no one here uses illegal software

I just had a spasm in my sphincter when I read it, but after investigating a bit more, it turns out that this only affects games from Microsoft itself.
Windows can disable pirated Microsoft games - PC Gamer

…I'm relaxing again. :ugly: :love:

[kalevala]

@Nemo:

If you download the ISO from the Microsoft website (well, actually you download a program from which you create an installation USB or an ISO) you will have the system installed, but not activated, so it will not be 100% legal until you enter the corresponding serial.
On the other hand, what I have not tried is to enter the serial of a Windows 7/8/8.1 directly into Windows 10.

From my Spectrum +2A with Windows 10

But is the installed system functional? Does anything happen if you don't activate it (besides losing -future updates I suppose)

Regards

[whoololon]

What I think, after kicking around the net in several languages, is what we all suspect: what MS cares about is that you install W10 one way or another.

• You already have a license? Well, you have a new OS for free.

• You don't have one? Well, you sign up for free in the "Windows Insider" program, download the ISO that takes the most courage, and you already have a Windows Insider Preview license and a fully operational and activated W10.

• Are you actually Guybrush Threepwood, valiant pirate? Well, take a look at this.

!

[whoololon]

Well, today I upgraded to Windows 10 and my experience has been quite disappointing.
After installing, once on the desktop and after several minutes, it freezes and I get the screen with the message SYSTEM_THREAD_EXCEPTION_ERROR in reference to the file igdkmd64.sys.
I tried several graphic drivers but nothing.
The good thing is that it allowed me to return to the previous operating system without major trauma, so whatever, good luck to those who do well, that's great.
I'll stick with my beloved W7 until I forget this. :wall:

Edit: After looking and reviewing several pages with the same problem, I disabled the "IGPU Multi Monitor" in the UEFI because apparently the driver of the integrated one is the one causing the problem. Obviously it's a matter of poor drivers, since in W7 there was no problem.
Tomorrow if I have time and feel like it I'll give it another try, seeing how easy it is to return to your previous OS it's almost worth it.

[Kernel1.0]

I'm already thinking that the only reason they don't say it's going to be free for everyone at once and clearly is that the people who bought Windows 8.x a month ago won't get mad at them.

[whoololon]

Well, some people may have suffered with the W8 graphic interface and see this as compensation, and others may think that the interface was one of the best things MS has invented since Vista. To each their own...

By the way, it seems like I've solved the problem and I'm now using W10 without any major issues. That said, the windows are ugly as hell, but they'll probably come out with something to change them.
Regarding the issue of some versions having limited features...
...godmode on.

;D

Edit: Personally, I don't like it. I've fiddled around for a while, but there are applications that don't work properly for me. Anyway, it's there for when I really need it. As of today, with W7 I have more than enough.

[kalevala]

In case it hasn't come up here before, I'll pass on an article from gizmodo where they explain the privacy options of win10 and how to disable them step by step. As you know, it seems that win10 likes to excessively make use of your habits as a user

the article here

regards!

[Kernel1.0]

Even when told not to, Windows 10 just can't stop talking to Microsoft | Ars Technica
Sin comentarios :mudo:

[whoololon]

Mardito Güindos, disobedient and also shivato. :mad:

[winters]

Hello to all those who have WINDOWS 10 installed, who had an original windows and installed it directly, there is a way to know the SERIAL: How to Find and Save Your Windows 10 Product Key - SETUIX.COM It is good to have it safe..

[whoololon]

@winters:

Hello to all those who have WINDOWS 10 installed, who had an original windows and installed it directly, there is a way to know the SERIAL:

How to Find and Save Your Windows 10 Product Key - SETUIX.COM

It's good to have it safe..

An elegant and simple way and alternative to programs like ProduKey. :sisi:

I add that the latest build of Windows 10 Threshold 2 (which had been withdrawn a few days ago :facepalm: ) is now available again, available via Microsoft Media Creation Tool.
Remember that this build allows you to install Windows 10 from scratch using our W7, 8 or 8.1 key.