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    • FassouF Desconectado
      Fassou MODERADOR @NoKeR
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      Surely the problem is due to one of the modern energy-saving systems of the mechanical disks now, which in some cases, can not be deactivated :facepalm:

      If you have Intel's software installed for HDD management, try disabling power management in the application.

      Salu2!

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        NoKeR @Fassou
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        @Fassou:

        Probably the problem is due to one of the modern energy-saving systems of the mechanical disks now, which in some cases, can not be deactivated :facepalm:

        If you have Intel's software installed for HDD management, try disabling energy management in the application.

        Salu2!

        I have it deactivated, I have even tried uninstalling it but nothing works.

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          Fassou MODERADOR @NoKeR
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          If you have already disabled it in Intel Rapid (Performance and Energy), check the BIOS, in case you have any more options, but perhaps you have one of those HDDs that save energy autonomously, and only by modifying the firmware could they be forced not to park heads every so often.

          Salu2!

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            @krampak:

            ¿ If they are above the threshold they are bad no?

            I don't have much idea of how to interpret the 'Actual', 'Worst' and 'Threshold' values, but the column to look at is 'Raw values'. By default it is in hexadecimal, but there is an option to put it in decimal.

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              @Yorus:

              I don't have much idea of how to interpret the 'Actual', 'Worst' and 'Threshold' values, but the column to take into account is the 'Raw values'. By default it is in hexadecimal, but there is an option to put it in decimal.

              I basically go by the color… When something is yellow, there is a risk of mortal death :ugly:
              And I've seen some turn red overnight, so... Anything is possible :mudo:

              The fact that the game is old should not affect its operation, in fact, it should make it easier for a recent computer to run it without problems.

              I still insist on a hypothetical mismatch between the SSD and the mechanical drive, but try running an HD Tune on it, see what values it gives you. (Health status, sector test, etc).

              Regards

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                NoKeR @Fassou
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                @Fassou:

                If you have already disabled it in Intel Rapid (Performance and Energy), check the BIOS, in case you have any more options, but perhaps you have one of those HDDs that save energy autonomously, and only by modifying the firmware could you force them not to park heads every so often.

                Salu2!

                The BIOS option to save energy on the disk was disabled.

                The screenshots are a bit small, but I think they are well appreciated.

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                  Fassou MODERADOR @NoKeR
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                  I have an HDD like yours, although it has firmware C44, but the value that you show in blue I have as 200 and 200, not with 1 like yours.

                  Do you have the memory latencies very tight?

                  Regards!

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                    NoKeR @Fassou
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                    @Fassou:

                    I have an HDD like yours, although it has firmware C44, but the value that you show in blue I have as 200 and 200, not with 1 like yours.

                    Do you have the memory timings very tight?

                    Cheers!

                    I haven't touched them, they are from the factory, AIDA64 shows 7-8-8-24 CR2

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                      That error I think was sometimes attributed to possible problems in the disk connection, either in ports or in cables, because in one of mine I also had it on alert once and I was checking it.

                      Greetings

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                        Fassou MODERADOR @Sylver
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                        Pass a Memtest, and try changing the SATA port. Salu2!

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                          NoKeR @Fassou
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                          @Fassou:

                          Run a Memtest, and try changing the SATA port.

                          Salu2!

                          I have run the Memtest and it has not given any errors, in the image it is the second pass.

                          I have also tried different SATA ports and a different cable, the problem persists

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                            NoKeR @NoKeR
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                            @Sylver:

                            That error I think was sometimes attributed to possible problems in the disk connection, either in ports or in cables, because in one of mine I also had it on alert and I was checking it.

                            Greetings

                            Just a question I have, does that error still occur or does it appear because at some point it happened and the error was recorded? <:(

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                              Fassou MODERADOR @NoKeR
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                              They are counters, which tell you how many times it has happened, so what you have to look at is that the value does not change.

                              If you are already using another port, or even another cable, then test to see if you experience the problem again.

                              Salu2!

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                                NoKeR @Fassou
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                                @Fassou:

                                They are counters, which tell you how many times it has happened, so what you need to look at is that the value does not change.

                                If you are already using another port, or even another cable, then test to see if you experience the problem again.

                                Salu2!

                                The error that I remember has always given me and has never changed its value at least until now.

                                The problem persists even when changing the cable and/or port.

                                Salu2

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                                  Moving on to more complicated and invasive actions, try using another SATA drive with the same purpose, as a supplementary drive to install the game and check if it fixes the stuttering. This could test the "innocence" of the drive if there is a micro-timing mismatch between the mechanical drive and the SSD as I originally speculated.

                                  Another option is to format the partition that is causing the problems (you said you defragmented it), and start the process over.

                                  Regards

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                                    NoKeR @Sylver
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                                    I have already managed to get another hard drive to see if the same thing happens, tomorrow in a while I will try it and I will tell you.

                                    Greetings

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                                      Expectantly we find ourselves,

                                      Greetings

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                                        Hello, well I have tried another hard drive, a pretty old Maxtor 250 gb SATA, that is, freshly formatted and without partitions, I have not been able to get anything better :alone:, the thing is that practically the same thing happens, noise from the heads from time to time and micro jerks, so it seems that Sylver is right about the lag of the ssd with respect to normal hard drives.

                                        Of all when I can I would like to remove the partitions from the other drive to see if by chance this improves, but it seems that it will not be so.

                                        Regards

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                                          I can see it coming, because the disk is apparently healthy and when you install the game on the SSD you don't have that problem... It could be that the SATA disk you have tried was too old and worked with a lower transfer rate, then it would only make matters worse :ugly: In any case, as long as the disk doesn't give you problems for storage, I would keep that unit exclusively for that purpose, and I would be installing and uninstalling the games progressively from the SSD as you need them, because this way you will get the best gaming experience. Best regards ?

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