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    • YorusY Desconectado
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      It's curious that the values are marked as good and the one for reallocated sectors I see as zero.

      In Hiren's Boot there is an application that does a more thorough check of the disk's operation, even the time it takes to read a specific sector. I have come across cases of hard drives that had more or less correct SMART problems but that program exposed them. I think it's MHDD, which is a bit abrupt to handle, but very reliable.

      But don't discount software either, because that error might be more noticeable with a hard drive because it's more "slow to react" than an SSD, but it could be anything. I would try to disable all possible software at startup, including antivirus and test.

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        If they are above the threshold, they are bad, right?

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          is the disk partitioned or whole? I suppose you will have it defragmented,
          if you have it in a partition, if it is fragmented a little you will have that with games and some application that reads the disk a lot,

          you also do not indicate what equipment you have, as it may be something else

          regards

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            @ferelxyx:

            is the disk partitioned or whole?, I suppose you will have it defragmented,
            if you have it in a partition, if it is fragmented a little you will have this problem with games and some application that reads a lot from the disk,

            you also do not indicate what equipment you have, because it may be something else

            regards

            The disk has two partitions, one I use to install games, another for videos and other downloaded files. Both partitions are defragmented, unfortunately it is one of the first things I did.

            Equipment:
            CPU: Intel core i5 4690K
            Motherboard: Asrock z97 pro4
            RAM: 8GB G Skill Ripjaw DDR 3 1600
            SSD: Crucial M550 256 GB
            Power supply: Templarius Imperator 650W 80 plus bronze

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              Fassou MODERADOR @NoKeR
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              Surely the problem is due to one of the modern energy-saving systems of the mechanical disks now, which in some cases, can not be deactivated :facepalm:

              If you have Intel's software installed for HDD management, try disabling power management in the application.

              Salu2!

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                NoKeR @Fassou
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                @Fassou:

                Probably the problem is due to one of the modern energy-saving systems of the mechanical disks now, which in some cases, can not be deactivated :facepalm:

                If you have Intel's software installed for HDD management, try disabling energy management in the application.

                Salu2!

                I have it deactivated, I have even tried uninstalling it but nothing works.

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                  Fassou MODERADOR @NoKeR
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                  If you have already disabled it in Intel Rapid (Performance and Energy), check the BIOS, in case you have any more options, but perhaps you have one of those HDDs that save energy autonomously, and only by modifying the firmware could they be forced not to park heads every so often.

                  Salu2!

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                    @krampak:

                    ¿ If they are above the threshold they are bad no?

                    I don't have much idea of how to interpret the 'Actual', 'Worst' and 'Threshold' values, but the column to look at is 'Raw values'. By default it is in hexadecimal, but there is an option to put it in decimal.

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                      @Yorus:

                      I don't have much idea of how to interpret the 'Actual', 'Worst' and 'Threshold' values, but the column to take into account is the 'Raw values'. By default it is in hexadecimal, but there is an option to put it in decimal.

                      I basically go by the color… When something is yellow, there is a risk of mortal death :ugly:
                      And I've seen some turn red overnight, so... Anything is possible :mudo:

                      The fact that the game is old should not affect its operation, in fact, it should make it easier for a recent computer to run it without problems.

                      I still insist on a hypothetical mismatch between the SSD and the mechanical drive, but try running an HD Tune on it, see what values it gives you. (Health status, sector test, etc).

                      Regards

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                        NoKeR @Fassou
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                        @Fassou:

                        If you have already disabled it in Intel Rapid (Performance and Energy), check the BIOS, in case you have any more options, but perhaps you have one of those HDDs that save energy autonomously, and only by modifying the firmware could you force them not to park heads every so often.

                        Salu2!

                        The BIOS option to save energy on the disk was disabled.

                        The screenshots are a bit small, but I think they are well appreciated.

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                          Fassou MODERADOR @NoKeR
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                          I have an HDD like yours, although it has firmware C44, but the value that you show in blue I have as 200 and 200, not with 1 like yours.

                          Do you have the memory latencies very tight?

                          Regards!

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                            NoKeR @Fassou
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                            @Fassou:

                            I have an HDD like yours, although it has firmware C44, but the value that you show in blue I have as 200 and 200, not with 1 like yours.

                            Do you have the memory timings very tight?

                            Cheers!

                            I haven't touched them, they are from the factory, AIDA64 shows 7-8-8-24 CR2

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                              That error I think was sometimes attributed to possible problems in the disk connection, either in ports or in cables, because in one of mine I also had it on alert once and I was checking it.

                              Greetings

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                                Pass a Memtest, and try changing the SATA port. Salu2!

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                                  NoKeR @Fassou
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                                  @Fassou:

                                  Run a Memtest, and try changing the SATA port.

                                  Salu2!

                                  I have run the Memtest and it has not given any errors, in the image it is the second pass.

                                  I have also tried different SATA ports and a different cable, the problem persists

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                                    NoKeR @NoKeR
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                                    @Sylver:

                                    That error I think was sometimes attributed to possible problems in the disk connection, either in ports or in cables, because in one of mine I also had it on alert and I was checking it.

                                    Greetings

                                    Just a question I have, does that error still occur or does it appear because at some point it happened and the error was recorded? <:(

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                                      They are counters, which tell you how many times it has happened, so what you have to look at is that the value does not change.

                                      If you are already using another port, or even another cable, then test to see if you experience the problem again.

                                      Salu2!

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                                        NoKeR @Fassou
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                                        @Fassou:

                                        They are counters, which tell you how many times it has happened, so what you need to look at is that the value does not change.

                                        If you are already using another port, or even another cable, then test to see if you experience the problem again.

                                        Salu2!

                                        The error that I remember has always given me and has never changed its value at least until now.

                                        The problem persists even when changing the cable and/or port.

                                        Salu2

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                                          Moving on to more complicated and invasive actions, try using another SATA drive with the same purpose, as a supplementary drive to install the game and check if it fixes the stuttering. This could test the "innocence" of the drive if there is a micro-timing mismatch between the mechanical drive and the SSD as I originally speculated.

                                          Another option is to format the partition that is causing the problems (you said you defragmented it), and start the process over.

                                          Regards

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                                            I have already managed to get another hard drive to see if the same thing happens, tomorrow in a while I will try it and I will tell you.

                                            Greetings

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