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      Hello good evening
      For this Christmas I have managed to save approximately 400€ which I would like to spend on a new computer. I would like this new computer to be able to run design programs like Solid Words and Autocad, and also to be able to play, especially the latest games that are coming out, like Assassin’s creed Syndicate. I currently have a GTX 750TI, a 700W Tacens mars gaming power supply, and a 24” LG HDMI monitor. The configuration I have chosen is as follows:
      Processor: INTEL CORE I5 6400 SKYLAKE 3.30GHZ 1151 BOX :: APPInformatica.com ::
      Motherboard: MSI B150 GAMING M3 1151 DDR4 HDMI SATA3 USB3.1 ATX :: APPInformatica.com ::
      Ram Memory (X2): KINGSTON HX421C14FB 8 HYPERX FURY 8GB DDR4 2133MHZ :: APPInformatica.com ::
      What do you think? To be honest, I am a bit lost when it comes to motherboards. If you would modify any component, please try to choose it from the same distributor.
      Thank you for your trouble
      Good evening

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        Hello, does anyone here help? thank you

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          whoololon Veteranos HL @mitrasto
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          De nada.

          The page of that store is a pain because the components are put to you without ordering, the assortment is scarce and somewhat outdated... but that's what we're getting to.
          The i5-6400 is not bad, but for 20 € more you get the i5-6500.
          If you're going to do OC, Asrock 1151 z170 extreme4.
          If you're not going to do OC, Asrock h170m pro4s 1151, and some more humble DDR4.

          ...me lo dicen las voces...

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            If you want professional 2D/3D acceleration and gaming capabilities, you'll have to spend a lot of money on a professional graphics card... because the CPU barely intervenes and the drivers of normal, i.e., non-professional graphics cards have poor performance... not to mention rendering errors and sudden application crashes.

            What I mean is that I don't know what equipment you have, but for that use, it's not worth focusing on CPU and mem improvements when what greatly improves the user experience is the power and acceleration of graphics through the GPU.

            AutoCAD is MONOHILO and SolidWorks barely squeezes out a dualcore... the same goes for the rest of the programs I've worked with NX, CATIA V5, PTC Creo... not one of them takes advantage of more than two cores.

            To make matters worse, AutoCAD is a huge pain in the neck and has very poor performance in 3D, so in this case, it practically doesn't matter what graphics or CPU you have... as long as you don't use a laptop with little RAM to run it or move around huge plans with many details and layers, everything will be smooth in 2D.

            That said, the more Mhz the better the program will be... but the graphics card, if it's not professional, is useless because the performance drops dramatically even if you put a Titan X worth €1200 in it (except for using CATIA which uses DirectX and accelerates like games)

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              I just checked the link that Espinetenbolas posted and a question comes to mind… what is the use of a Titan X? I see that both in games and in SolidWorks (for example) it performs the same as a 980Ti. I thought that in the professional category it would be closer to the Quadro range.

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                @krampak:

                I just looked at the link that Espinetenbolas posted and a question comes to mind… what is the use of a Titan X? I see that in both games and SolidWorks (for example) it performs the same as a 980Ti. I thought that in the professional category it would be closer to the Quadro range.

                It doesn't have to… the M6000 is a Titan X but in a professional version... the Titan X is not and cannot be considered a professional graphics card even though it has a lot of power and is "expensive"... table of equivalences:

                AMD R9 280 -> FirePro W7100
                AMD R9 290 -> FirePro W8100
                AMD R9 290X-> FirePro W9100

                nvidia 780-> Quadro K4200
                Titan Z-> Quadro K6000

                nvidia 980-> Quadro M5000
                Titan X-> Quadro M6000

                What is usually done is to equip the top-of-the-range ones with registered memory and double-precision calculation capacity (although nVidia covers it because it sells the Tesla separately so you spend the euros twice).

                Also, all the professional ones have the capacity to output 10bit color... something that a normal graphics card never has.

                In essence, from the point of view of using professional applications, it is more worthwhile to go for a mid-range or low-range graphics card (between 150 and 400€) than to get a normal graphics card of 600 or 1000€ that can also give you problems with crashes... it's one thing to play and another to work.

                And of course, that is paid for and that's why with applications that require optimization, a top-of-the-range graphics card performs poorly compared to a professional graphics card that costs half or less... not to mention a graphics card of 2000 or 6000€ :troll:

                Of course, one must also explain that depending on what one models, there is no need to go for this type of hardware or make large expenditures but if you don't have it and you need it, you have a very hard time working... and I say this from my own experience with very complex assemblies, a low-end professional graphics card that didn't give more of itself, poor thing. :wall:

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