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    • whoololonW Desconectado
      whoololon Veteranos HL @wanautentico
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      I understand that we all do our best to help, the fact is that it is preferable to go step by step in a problem that:

      1. Is punctual.
      2. Does not affect system stability. (It is not clear if the image returns after a while or not, or if the computer crashes).
      3. Is not deliberately reproducible.
      4. There is a lot of missing information (mainly brand and model of components and test results).

      Let's leave who pees the farthest until Vivarso offers us a more detailed explanation of the problem. ;D

      ...me lo dicen las voces...

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        Espinetenbolas Veteranos HL @whoololon
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        whoololon the problem with reason is that it is the most evenly distributed thing in this world… everyone believes they have enough :troll:

        As for the problem, it should be said that if the case is poorly ventilated and its internal temperature exceeds 40º, the components with the stock coolers will have problems because that is what the manufacturers' technical documentation says.

        Read "Boundary Condition Definition" page 13 -> http://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/design-guides/4th-gen-core-family-desktop-tmsdg.pdf

        That is to say… 35ºC of ambient temperature and 5ºC difference with the internal temperature of the case and the environment... hardware working conditions 40ºC... if you exceed them inside the case you are screwed.

        40ºC may seem like little but it is supposed that a person at 35ºC of ambient temperature finds it difficult to stay clear-headed/efficient in front of a PC and not stay glued to the chair as if it were the paper of a biscuit... so it is understood that the machine will not work either... or they will put air conditioning ?

        If here the companion opens the tower and does not give the error, several things can happen but everything points to a refrigeration problem that needs to be identified.

        By the way Vivarso… what tower do you have?... how many fans have you mounted in it?... what cooler does the CPU have?

        Anyway, post results.

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          Vivarso @Espinetenbolas
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          Thanks for everything really!

          Well as soon as I have a little time I'll upload what you ask for.

          In response to the fans I can say that it only has one small one attached to the cpu. Previously I had a gtx550ti and I had not had any problems.

          And thanks again.

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            Espinetenbolas Veteranos HL @Vivarso
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            @Vivarso:

            To the fans' response I can say that you only have one small one attached to the cpu. Previously I had a gtx550ti and I had not had any problems.

            That is, your case is not cooled… understand that there is no air flow that enters (COLD FLOW) and another that exits (HOT FLOW).

            There are various reasons why that 550ti did not give you those problems... the first is because it had much less graphic power and therefore the CPU was more underused.

            Also the 550ti dissipates less heat... so we can talk about 20 - 30 or 50W of difference adding it to what the CPU did not dissipate and what it dissipates now.

            That perfectly adds up to the fact that the components are now more balanced which increases the failure rate when operating near or above those 40ºC that you surely have inside the case... this is proven by the fact that when you open the case the failure disappears.

            As soon as you upload the screenshots we will know better what is failing but for now it could even be the RAM or the hard drives.

            Certainly what it looks like is that the case is poorly ventilated and some component is overheating.

            PD: a photo of the tower open would not be a bad idea to see how you have it mounted ;D

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              Sylver Veteranos HL @Espinetenbolas
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              i5 with stock cooler, tragoncilla graphics, no fan and power supply made in Taipei... Inside it fries sardines like atoms in the Chernobyl reactor, but obviously you can't see it ?

              Components to be changed/incorporated in the very near future:

              -Processor cooler
              -Additional case fans
              -Power supply

              And depending on the case, the case itself could also be nominated for a change when we see it ?

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                  Hello! I'm uploading the result of the last test I did with occt, without the side cover. Sorry for the delay but I have little free time ;D

                  By the way, what do you think about the Tacens Radix VII AG 700w 80 plus silver as a power supply for my computer? A friend is selling it to me in exchange for something else, it's less than a month old with warranty and at a pretty good price?

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                    Espinetenbolas Veteranos HL @Vivarso
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                    With the case open, I don't see anything strange or out of the ordinary in terms of voltage and temperature.

                    What is clearly visible is a progressive increase in temperature on one of the sensors (it says CPU but it's the sensor near the CPU placed on the power supply stage) and temperatures that are a bit high for the CPU for the time of year we are in.

                    What I do see is how the GPU fluctuates both in core and memory... that is indicative of overheating.

                    It's a shame that there is no record of the cooler speed or the temperatures but it's certain that those peaks coincide with temperature peaks and a drop in GPU Mhz.

                    It's very possible that when you post the screenshots of the test with the case closed, you will see what is really happening since, for now, the only one doing strange things is the GPU in a test where, in principle, nothing strange should appear.

                    As I say, it's not necessary to run it again... just look for the one you already did... OCCT saves everything and categorizes it by date ;D

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                      Vivarso @whoololon
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                      Here it is, the test with the case. As a comment, with the lid closed, OCCT doesn't reproduce the error, while if I play any game, it does.




















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                        Espinetenbolas Veteranos HL @Vivarso
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                        I for one don't appreciate the difference… I see the same thing as with the other test... almost the same just that it lasts half an hour less.

                        What is clear is that the GPU lowers the speed for something but without a temperature log it's impossible to know what it is.

                        Besides if OCCT doesn't fry the PSU it's not and the CPU doesn't either because it doesn't reach strange temperatures or lower the speed.

                        If anything you can try OCCT only in "GPU: 3D" mode... it's the same but it will focus on the GPU.

                        It's to see if in this case the GPU speeds drop even more or compared to the PSU test I see any difference.

                        I recommend at least half an hour of testing both with the case closed and open... that is two GPU tests.

                        You'll have to tell me.

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