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      Hello, I recently bought an SSD, this one in particular: OCZ Trion 100 SSD - 2.5" SATA 3 6Gb/s, 120GB, even though it's on SATA2, I don't think the result will be as you'll see, nothing normal: Subefotos, I'll also leave you the one of a Seagate HDD of 2TB: Subefotos, it turns out that it writes faster than the SSD, if you can tell me what might be happening, or if it could have come wrong from the factory, in short, I want to clear up any doubts. Regards.
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        It depends on the test I suppose. Tell me what results you get from the ATTO with 128k block and depth 5 for example.

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          The disk itself is a mid-range disk… if you put it in SATA2 you'll notice it even more because the disk can't work well... because it can't use TRIM.

          If your motherboard is AMD you'll have even worse performance... you don't specify but I'll tell you in advance that if that's the case you're even more screwed.

          I had a Samsung 840 Pro on an AMD motherboard and the performance is not even comparable to my current Intel... just because of SATA3 and TRIM the performance that was garbage before has skyrocketed.

          Those anomalies can be due to the fact that the disk is not at ZERO and therefore since the disk can't use TRIM when writing it must first erase the content and then write.

          That is to say that if you change the disk or use another one you'll have the same problem because the problem is not in the disk but in the motherboard's controller that can't use all the advantages of an SSD.

          Or at least that's what I think is happening.

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            @Espinetenbolas:

            The disk itself is a mid-range disk… if you put it on SATA2 you will notice it even more because the disk can't work well... because it can't use TRIM.

            If your motherboard is AMD, you will have even worse performance... you don't specify it, but I'll tell you in advance that if it is, you are even more screwed.

            I had a Samsung 840 Pro on an AMD motherboard and the performance is not even comparable to my current Intel... just because of SATA3 and TRIM, the performance that was garbage before has skyrocketed.

            These anomalies may be due to the fact that the disk is not at ZERO and therefore, since the disk can't use TRIM when writing, it must first erase the content and then write.

            That is to say that if you change the disk or use another one, you will have the same problem because the problem is not in the disk but in the motherboard's controller that can't use all the advantages of an SSD.

            Or at least that's what I think is happening.

            I think that if you can have TRIM on SATA2, at least the CMD test tells me that the operating system has it active:

            fsutil behavior query disabledeletenotify gives me =0, which in theory implies that TRIM is active, and my laptop is SATA2

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              @krampak:

              It depends on the test I suppose. Tell me what results you get from the ATTO in 128k block and depth 5 for example.

              Honestly, I have not used this program, and I don't understand its use very well, let's see if I put it correctly:
              Subefotos, thanks for the answer and the link.

              @Espinetenbolas:

              The disk itself is a mid-range disk... if you put it in SATA2 you will notice it even more because the disk can't work well... because it can't use TRIM.

              If your motherboard is AMD you will have even worse performance... you didn't specify it but I'll tell you in advance that if it is, you are even more screwed.

              I had a Samsung 840 Pro on an AMD motherboard and the performance has no color compared to my current Intel... just for SATA3 and TRIM the performance that was garbage before has skyrocketed.

              These anomalies may be due to the fact that the disk is not at ZERO and therefore since the disk can't use TRIM when writing it must first erase the content and then write.

              That is to say that if you change the disk or use another you will have the same problem because the problem is not in the disk but in the motherboard's controller that can't use all the advantages of an SSD.

              Or at least that's what I think is happening.

              If it's an AMD motherboard, this one in particular: https://www.asus.com/es/Motherboards/M4A78LTM/, TRIM says it's activated, thanks for the answer.

              @kynes:

              I think that TRIM can be had on SATA2, at least with the CMD test it indicates to me that the operating system has it active:

              fsutil behavior query disabledeletenotify gives me =0, which in theory implies that TRIM is active, and my laptop is SATA2

              The same thing says to me, that's why I tell the partner above that it's activated, moreover, they assure that if you have a Windows from 7 onwards (I have 8.1) it sets it by default.

              Best regards.

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                The Trion 100 didn't have a great reputation for its performance:

                Random Performance - OCZ Trion 100 (240GB, 480GB & 960GB) SSD Review: Bringing Toshiba to the Retail
                OCZ Trion 100 review: An affordable SSD with a problem | PCWorld

                However, in the "real world", what matters is random read and write, which is what makes a computer more "agile", the bottom two rows of results of the four included in the test you attach, rather than sequential, only useful for copying very large files, and in most cases the SLC cache will mask the problem of its slow write on the TLC part.

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                  @kynes:

                  Anyway, the Trion 100 didn't have a very good reputation for its performance:

                  Random Performance - OCZ Trion 100 (240GB, 480GB & 960GB) SSD Review: Bringing Toshiba to the Retail
                  OCZ Trion 100 review: An affordable SSD with a problem | PCWorld

                  Anyway, in the "real world" what matters is random read and write, which is what gives a computer more "agility", the bottom two rows of results of the four included in the test you attached, more than sequential, only useful for copying very large files, and in most cases the SLC cache will mask the problem of its slow write on the TLC part.

                  It turns out that I bought this brand because it had a power supply of the same name (5 years old and like the first day) I never imagined it would be so bad, this happens for not looking before, I thought this technology would have been overcome, which is so much talked about. I had already seen the links, and yes, really all the ones that are neutral, put it badly, apart from what we already know in this world of computing, with the reviews and the marketing.
                  Thanks.

                  Best regards.

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                    The most powerful SSDs are the Samsung ones… mainly because of their controller which is what marks the performance.

                    As for your specific problem… as I have already mentioned the performance of SSDs with AMD chip is a mess… from my own experience and from what the reviews show.

                    Therefore, even if you got a Samsung you would hardly improve the performance… the chip will kill it… it is like putting a V8 engine in a Seat600.

                    That is to say, the disk is a bit slow but the problem is in the motherboard.

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                      And with any AM3+ motherboard could I improve, those that natively carry the SATA3 controller? thanks for the answer.

                      Best regards.

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