Review Ryzen 7 3700X (Zen 2)
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For a long time, I have always trusted Intel components for my computers, if I am one of those who started with the old Pentium MMX (specifically the 166Mhz), I followed with the Pentium 3 600, a Pentium 4 Prescott at 3Ghz (those that you could even fry an egg on top of). Shortly after, I jumped to the mythical Core 2 Duo E6600, one of the best sellers because it easily matched the E6700/6800 with little overclocking, and to the Q9550, which, to be honest, left me with the best taste in my mouth, until recently I had an i7 4770K that was another story. All with their good or rather decent components.
Then came the change to AMD, the revolution with Ryzen, from the first version they began to show their claws, the second revision (the improved one continues to be talked about) until the talk of Ryzen 3000 and users, we go crazy! Then, after all, and as could not be otherwise, I got to work and bought the following components:- *MSI MPG X570 Gaming Edge Wifi
- AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
- 2x8GB Gskill Trident Z RGB 3600 CL18
Accompanied by: - Gigabyte RTX 2070 WindForce 8GB DDR6
- Samsung SSD 850 Evo 250GB
- 2x1 TB HDD (Seagate/Western Digital)
- Monitor LG 24EA53 1080p*
So let's proceed to the review, I have been checking for days if there are problems with IF, whether the memory bandwidth works better with 2 chiplets than with 1, … That said, at the time of doing this review, we are with version 1.0.0.2 of Agesa, and 1.0.0.3 has come out with some improvements.
In the reviews I have seen previously, before assembling it, I had read that there were problems with memory configuration, that many times you had to place it without the XMP profile, since, if not, it was not stable, …. It is true that after assembling it and as they have accustomed us, these UEFI screens (which always scare on the first start) seemed that it did not start and started automatically. That said, it did not take me long to activate XMP in the BIOS and quickly it placed itself at the theoretical 3600 that these GSKILL mark, so I proceeded to install Windows 10 from the USB and configure everything. It is true that I had a minor problem with the USB I used, but it was installed, updated and I proceeded to install the drivers, my personal use programs, and the following benchmarks:- CPU-Z
- AIDA 64 6.0 (I am doing a comparison with my home equipment and comparing as much as possible with my old 4770K, Q9550, etc…)
- 3DMark
- HLBM (the benchmark that was done in the HARDLIMIT forum, of which I have been a member for 14 years)
- wPrime (32MB and 1024MB)
- SuperPI XS Mod 1.5 with all its variants
- Unigine Heaven
- Crystal Disk Mark
- PCMARK 10
- MSI Kombustor
- Si Soft Sandra Lite
- User Benchmark
- Cinebench R15
So, let's begin...
The truth is that I was leaning towards MSI, because I was told very well about the MSI X470 Gaming Plus (in fact, I was almost going to buy this), but as I was changing the entire platform, I finally decided for the MSI MPG X570 Gaming Edge Wifi.
Of which I can comment that it has a very good finish, well-situated connections (perhaps only a bit annoying are the ones for the power reset buttons that are very low and access is somewhat complicated). But in general, it looks robust, and includes Intel Wifi and Bluetooth, and uses Realtek Gigabit instead of Intel (I had been using Intel until now, but it seems that Realtek is more stable @JuezDred you were right on this point). Here I attach photos of the assembly:
As I have already said, and of course I am not accustomed lately to assembling many (in what is said, I assemble every X), there is always the whisper of the UEFI, when it is going to start but it is a minor issue...
So, once assembled, we enter the BIOS and the first parameter I put was:
Where we activate the XMP of the ram (in many pages I read that there were problems when doing it and that it was placed by default at 2133Mhz, but in this case it was said and done).
The next step was to install the OS Windows 10 (when you insert the USB, if you leave it connected the computer hangs, you have to do the installation, and just when it asks to restart, remove it unless you review the UEFI, which came as standard).
So installed, and with the drivers of the motherboard, graphics card and others installed, we proceed with the tests carried out.
We start with CPU-Z:
Where we obtain 5254.1 in Multithread and 513.8 SingleThread, which if we compare with the 9900K (for performance, the closest 8/16 of Intel, it is slightly slower as seen in the image (with the references of CPU-Z).
For the second test, we start the marathon of AIDA 64 (to avoid complicating things too much, I will put the values in text and not overload this with images:
Memory reading: 49815MB/s
Memory writing: 28774MB/s
Memory copying: 46761MB/s
Memory latency: 73.6ns
CPU Queen: 95394
CPU PhotoWorxx: 21232MPixel/s
CPU ZLib: 806.7MB/s
CPU AES: 71014MB/s
CPU SHA3: 2323MB/s
FPU Julia: 74689
FPU Mandel: 39461
FPU SinJulia: 14199
FP32 Ray-Trace: 13968KRay/s
FP64 Ray-Trace: 7734 KRay/sWhat I observe is that some result is a bit off, for example PhotoWorxx or memory writing, which surely in the next revisions of AGESA, they will solve and improve it.
We continue with another test, this time 3DMARK with its TimeSpy test:
Here particularly, it is seen (speaking from my old 4770K that gave me a score of 4xxx points, to 9180 which is not bad for a CPU of these characteristics, which is more than double.
We proceed with PCMARK 10 where we obtain these suggestive results with a total score of 6387 but in Essentials 9602, Productivity 7423 and Digital Content Creation 9922
For old times' sake, I also did the SuperPI test, which we have done many times in the forum, even making competitions in it. I remember that AMD had always been in times far below Intel, but in this case I think AMD is working hard with these Ryzen:
Let's continue with CINEBENCH R20:
The more, the better, because the curiosity is that every time I run it, it scores more, even the second time (using the PC more, that is, with more applications open) it gives a higher score, which is why in the capture, two results are marked.
And it is seen how it is capable of surpassing the Threadripper 1950X which has double the cores.
Being also melancholic as I passed the SuperPI, I also did the wPrime test, both 32MB and 1024MB.
Being a magnificent work about 8,502s and 242,627s respectively, the problem is that in this test, only 4 cores are activated due to design limitations.
On the other hand, and given my experience with Apple Mac OS X, I discovered NovaBench, and therefore I also did the test
and these are the results.
And we close with the HLBM test from the house:
Mode 0 FPU:
Mode 1 SSE3:
Mode 2 AVX:
Mode 3 AVX2:
After all these tests, and seeing its performance with Adobe Premiere, which I found exquisite (surely with a 9900K it would be a bit better) but for everything, I am enjoying this new platform, now in a little while I will update the BIOS to see.
But it is leaving me with a very good taste in my mouth since, as I see, the performance of this 3700X is approaching the 9900K, maybe the 3800x will be even better... but as AMD has accustomed us, we will have to tinker with the BIOS, and its parameters to leave the configuration that gives us the best performance in the PC. By the way, I did the clean installation, not even put special parameters in the energy management that I have read can improve performance.
And I quote what I wrote in the past:
More than 13 years professionally dedicated to hardware in the field of IT. Since I have been able to reason, I have always been a fan of Intel, in no way have I despised AMD, nor any competitor, since each offers what at its time can. I must say that recently I acquired an AMD RYZEN 2 (Ryzen 7 3700X) and the truth is surprising me, if it is very current there are perhaps some flaws in BIOS that are not yet fully debugged, etc... much is talked about, but who understands? Almost all Intel motherboard have problems since their release, I remember for example the P5B from ASUS, it needed a sad BIOS update to support an Nvidia 8500GT from the same manufacturer, or other boards with Core2 or Core2 quad that also needed to read their temperatures and/or voltages... besides, to make it more similar, when you buy a NEW phone, do you not ask for a security update or a system update to improve, speaking of Apple, in its first revisions of each new iOS it happens, or even Android. I repeat, I am not a fanboy of Intel or AMD, I just try to get the best always with some quality at the best price. Soon I will do the review in video type, since I do not have enough space nor a good setup to do it) but I will probably do something... about the platform soon.
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What a great setup you've got yourself. For now, I'm sticking with my I7 2600K 4.3, which is still performing very well, but... I admit that I will probably end up buying a Ryzen in the future just for the fun of it, and nobody can resist a good thing, and it looks great. Congratulations and enjoy it. -
@amd125 the truth is that I have no complaints for the moment, maybe I notice that they should adjust something in the BIOS, but great from minute one.
