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    • NemoN Desconectado
      Nemo Veteranos HL @incrediboy
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      The topic of "balanced teams" has been widely discussed in this forum, which is useless to have a graphics powerhouse with a low-end or obsolete processor or a hard drive from the last century.

      A processor two generations behind is already obsolete for a current "Extreme Gamer" team, any mid/low-end Sandy doubles the processing capacity of a core 2 duo.

      You can assemble/spend what you like, the recommendation and the performance it will give you has also been warned, the decision is yours.

      Best regards

      Mis equipos

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        daijiro74 @Nemo
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        okay.. it's clear to me now.. with my current setup, the evga 560 ti would be more suitable than, for example, any 580.. since it comes with overclocking and the price seems like a great deal.. so would that be the best option? or are there other more powerful options similar to the one techno is suggesting? within the capabilities of my system..

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          As I say, I think the best option being Nvidia is that one and if you change your equipment, buy another one like it when you change it, an SLI of these perform very well.

          Look at a performance comparison review of an SLI of these to a 580.

          comparative.

          Nvidia GeForce GTX 560 Ti SLI Review - X-bit labs

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          • Jesus_PanellaJ Desconectado
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            The bottlenecks.

            Even though your Core 2 Duo E8500 is a good CPU, your future GTX 560 TI or your future GTX 580 if you decide for that, will be quite limited by that CPU. I have a GTX550 TI that is quite inferior to the GTX 560 Ti in a Core 2 Duo E8200 (somewhat slower than your E8500) and it is being slightly limited by the CPU. Imagine what will happen if you put a GTX 580, or even the GTX 560 on your E8500.

            A computer, in order to work properly, must be balanced, both the CPU and the graphics and memory and motherboard. It is no use having a powerful graphics card like the current GTX 580, if the CPU is not up to par. Or the other way around. Having an i7 2600K overclocked to 4.5 GHz and a "cheap" GT430.

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              Hello

              Gentlemen, we are forgetting an important detail, the power supply.

              What power supply do you have? In case you decide to set up a 560 SLI or introduce a single one of that range, the power supply might not be enough...

              Best regards

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                daijiro74 @Sylver
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                the team will keep it still so an update of platform now I do not see it viable until within 1 or 2 years as much.. the power supply I bought at the beginning of this year.. a thermaltake 650w… since the previous one melted down after 3 years of life.. a hyper

                well the thing about the graphics... buff it's a dilemma..:llorar::llorar: like changing the tires in the car.. but I think with the graphics it's another move:p

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                  That power supply perfectly supports the 560, with a sli it would be tight since they consume about 500W under load, but it is a decent power supply, I think a 560ti and a little OC would be quite balanced.

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                    @Tecnho:

                    As I told you, I think the best option, being Nvidia, is that one, and if you change your equipment, buy another one like it when you change it. An SLI of these performs very well.

                    Check out a performance comparison review of an SLI of these compared to a 580.

                    comparison.

                    Nvidia GeForce GTX 560 Ti SLI Review - X-bit labs

                    what monitor do you have? because if it has any nonsense, it will happen to you like it happened to me, graphics memory consumptions of 1300-1400mb…

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                      Yes, because that E8500 I suppose will easily do 4Ghz and that really is nothing.

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                        to be honest I'm looking at the 560 ti with OC and they look really good.. but I don't know if I should go for a very big 580 and let the CPU and motherboard process what they can and not lack graphics and rather have more.. (even if it does cause a bottleneck but I know I won't lack graphics) because the same thing.. I've been looking at the prices of what a new computer would cost me.. and to be honest I would build the biggest one like I did years ago with my current computer… I want you to tell me what graphics card you would put if you had to choose a 580.. ;D;D;D

                        I'll put some photos of my computer.. when it had the thermaltake cooling from the first ones that came out many many years ago.. which I changed for a ZALMAN cnps9900 led because I had problems with the water pump that broke and I got a really hot block on the CPU and it leaked and stained my gtx260 xfx graphics card so I managed to get it under warranty and they gave me the gigabyte gtx 260 oc..


                        !

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                          Tecnho Veteranos HL @daijiro74
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                          Put what you want, you will see in the end, the photo was not necessary.

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                            daijiro74 @Tecnho
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                            well I finally decided on a 560 ti oc (vitaminadas;D)… from what I read MSI ``they say they are the best´´... like asus gigabyte and the rest... so I don't know.. which is the 560 ti oc BEST OF ALL!..

                            http://www.pccomponentes.com/gigabyte_geforce_gtx_560_ti_super_oc_v2_1024mb_gddr5.html

                            by the way I really like this.. by the way does anyone have a comparison of all the 560 ti???

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                                You are right to choose the 560 Ti OC

                                It is absurd to build a 580 with capacity all over the place with the idea that "it has more performance", and nooo, it is not like that :nono::nono::nono::nono::nono:
                                The bottleneck reduces performance, you would be worse off than with a more modest graphics card, simply because the "basic" performance that the 580 can give would be diminished by the lack of processor and you would have problems running games, video, etc. normally.

                                When they advise you, it is for a reason, and completely stay away from that damn topic of "big horse, whether it walks or not", that is my advice.

                                Good luck with the change and I hope you have understood the parenthesis.

                                Regards

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                                >> Intel Core2Duo E6600 Conroe @2.4GHz || Asus P5N32-SLI SE DELUXE || 2x1Gb DDR2 Kingston 800MHz || Asus nVidia GeForce 9800GT 1Gb GDDR3 || Seagate Barracuda IDE 80Gb 7200RPM || Linkworld LPK12-35 450W

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                                  lo unico que puedes hacer para aprovechar es max resolucion y filtros para que el procesador
                                  cuando vaguee no desaproveches la tarjeta tanto.

                                  y no se por que no te gusta ati, hay gente tonta ke coje mania a cosas por cojer, o quizas
                                  mala experiencia.

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                                    si tienes poco procesador comprate una AMD-ATI Sapphire Radeon HD 6950 2GB GDDR5 + Dirt3 - 229 euros
                                    o MSI Radeon HD 6950 Twin Frozr III Power Edition/OC 2GB GDDR5 - 236 euros
                                    que muta a la 6970 y tienes mas potencia mas memoria grafica y tira menos de procesador ,
                                    que las graficas NVIDIA

                                    saludos

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                                      ati no quiero por malas experiencias… siempre he sido de nvidia.. como jamaras sere de AMD y siempre e sido fiel a INTEL..

                                      pues la verdad que me decidio por este modelo en concreto de gigabyte.. que tras mucho googlear y ver reviews con otras 56oti llego a la conclusion que esta es la que quiero

                                      GIGABYTE GV-N560SO-1GI-950 GV-N560SO-1GI-950 en Acuista.com 228,95€

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