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    • CRASHONC Desconectado
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      Hello family,
      Trying to write this post and looking at the races, I'm going to ask you for help once again with your current knowledge on the subject of hard.

      Currently I have the following equipment, gamer and pc-server/emule:

      - Gamer:
      C2D 4300 1.80 Ghz (1809x9) 65 nm FSB 804 Mhz
      Motherboard Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3 s. 775
      4x 1 Gb DDR II 667
      8800 GTS 512 MB
      Power supply Corsair 520W
      2 hard drives
      1 dvd
      Fans 4x12 cm
      Temperature 44 cº
      Consumption at rest: 113 W

      - PC-Server / Emule 24/7: (I use this equipment for downloading content and as a server for the different devices in the house, e.g. Ps3, HD multimedia, etc…)

      Pentium 4 3000 (200x15) 90 nm
      Motherboard Asrock P4VM900 478 - INTEGRATED GRAPHICS
      2 x 512 MB DDR II
      Generic power supply 400W
      3 hard drives
      Fan 1x8 cm
      Consumption at rest: 100 W

      The main problem with the server is the consumption, since the measurements taken with a measuring device give me an average consumption of about 100W, with an approximate cost of electricity of 380.18 € per year.

      Honestly, I have been very tempted by the new NAS devices, specifically from the brand Synology, the only thing that stops me is the price (almost 200€ without hard drive) and the processor power, since I'm not sure if it would have enough power for content streaming, but according to the specifications, they have an operating consumption of 25 w, that is, I would have the investment recovered in about 1 year, these devices also have download managers, but I'm not very sure how they work.

      Another option, which is the one I request your opinion on, would be to use the C2D for the server computer and downloads, but I would already need a new motherboard with integrated graphics. or, failing that, a pci-e graphics card with reduced consumption and passive cooling, so I would use the whole motherboard with its memory and everything... would I notice a reduction in consumption?

      So we are left with the pc gamer without motherboard or processor.... so we would have to look for, motherboard, processor and memory, what configuration to get the most out of the graphics and that they last a few years?

      Or I look to buy a low consumption motherboard and processor (I don't know which ones are) trying to use the DDR or DDR2 memory I have, but I would end up with 1 computer more than enough and another a bit outdated, don't you think?

      Sorry for the long post, but I wanted to give you some background.
      Thanks in advance for your opinions.
      Regards.

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        Think that for €250 you can build a low-power Sandy, so I imagine its consumption will be around 30-40W.

        PD. I'll give you an example with a low-voltage Sandy with gpu, 80 efficiency power supply and micro-ATX case:

        Gigabyte GA-H61M-S2V-B3 54
        Intel Dual Core G620T 2.2Ghz Box Socket 1155 69
        Kingston ValueRAM 4GB DDR3 1333 PC3-10600 CL9 20.95
        FSP 400-60APN 400W 32
        AeroCool QS-200 Micro-ATX 41

        TOTAL €217

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          Taking advantage of all the hardware of your P4 (except the motherboard), you can build a basic Atom, which are sold on ITX boards for about 50€. For emule, torrent, various download managers, file server, etc. you have more than enough. The only thing you might have to buy separately is a disk controller, because they usually only come with a couple of SATA and one PATA.

          With this configuration you will have more than enough power and very low consumption.

          By the way, if the disks are not very large, you can replace them with a single 2 Tb of those "Green" ones and the power consumed will decrease even more, but it will cost you about 75€ more.

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            thank you very much for the information, I would like to know about the atoms you mention, could you give me a reference website??

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              @CRASHON:

              muchas gracias por la informacion, me gustaria saber sobres los atom esos que comentas, podrias darme alguna web de referencia??

              Para comprar tienes por ejemplo eBay o PC Componentes.

              Aquí tienes la especificaciones.

              Y aquí tienes la web de Intel sobre Atom.

              Yo estoy frito por conseguir un netbook con la pantalla rota o algo así para que me salga muy barato y convertirlo en emule-pc conectandole discos de 3.5" por USB o comprarme un placa ITX de esas que te he comentado pero entre que hace poco apañé un Celeron (basado en P4) y que tampoco me apetece gastar nada en un servidor (porque tampoco lo uso demasiado), pues tengo el tema aparcado. Pero de ponerme en serio, iría a por la plataforma Atom sin ninguna duda.

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                that asrock looks good at 62€, do you know if APP has it too? the bad thing is that I'll have to use the gamer's memos, anyway I don't see it costing me much to get more ddr2, I had already set my eyes on the caviar green.

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                  @CRASHON:

                  looks good that asrock at 62€, do you know if APP also has it? the bad thing is that I will have to use the gamer's memos, anyway I don't see it costing me much to get more ddr2, I had already set my eyes on the caviar green.

                  1gb ddr2 is about 15€. Anyway if it's going to be a replacement for the P4, you can use its memories.

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                    apparently I made a mistake, the P4 ones are DDR. Anyway, I would use 2Gb of the Gamer, maybe I won't notice much of a drop in performance, although I also have it to upgrade, it still needs a little more.

                    By the way, does that atom come with passive cooling? doesn't it have ventilation problems?

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                      @CRASHON:

                      apparently I was wrong, the P4 ones are DDR. Anyway I would use 2Gb of the Gamer, maybe I won't notice much of a drop in performance, although I have it to upgrade too, it still needs a bit.

                      By the way, does that atom come with passive cooling? doesn't it have ventilation problems?

                      Which atom are you referring to? In the Asrock I see a fan in the center.

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                        True, it was with the ZOTAC board, what a diferencia.de price difference!!!

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                          @CRASHON:

                          True, it was with the ZOTAC board, what a diferencia.de in price!!!

                          If you mean this, it's not what you're looking for. It includes the ION chipset which provides considerably more graphics power than the Intel chipset, something you'll never use in an emule-pc.

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                            If you go with Atom it will limit you in many ways: connectivity (both sata and pci), graphics (if you ever want it to be an HTPC), space (ITX cases are very small to mount several disks). On the other hand, a computer with an Atom will cost around 160, which is not much savings compared to a Sandy that is 30 times more powerful, and will consume about 10-20W less.

                            PD. Really the interesting ones are the Atoms that already come fully assembled and are super compact, but that is in the price range of a netbook 200-300€.

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                              @Bm4n:

                              If you go with Atom, it will limit you in many ways: connectivity (both sata and pci), graphics (if you ever want it to be an HTPC), space (ITX cases are very small to mount multiple drives). On the other hand, a computer with an Atom will cost around 160, which is not much of a saving compared to a Sandy that is 30 times more powerful, and will consume about 10-20W less.

                              PD. Really, the interesting ones are the Atoms that already come fully assembled and are super compact, but that is in the price range of a netbook 200-300€.

                              Agree with the connectivity and graphics. But as far as I know, an ITX motherboard can be mounted in an ATX case, so you can put all the hard drives that the case (and the controller) allows, in addition to the one you already have. And as for the power consumption, do you mean that Sandy consumes less? If so, I don't agree either. And as for the price, if you only have to buy the motherboard and the memory, it will cost you for quite less than 100€.

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                                @CRASHON:

                                The main problem with the server is the consumption, since the measurements taken with a measuring device give me an average consumption of about 100W, with an approximate cost of electricity of €380.18 per year.

                                but who do you have the electricity contracted with? because if my calculations are correct, in the hypothetical case that you have the computer always on throughout the year, it would come out to 44 cents per kWh

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                                  @cobito:

                                  puede montar en una caja ATX, por lo que podrá meter todos los discos duros que le permita la caja (y la controladora)

                                  No creo que sea compatible el PCI que llevan me parece que está mas arriba de lo normal, pero aun así no me parecería lo normal.
                                  @cobito:

                                  ¿te refieres a que el Sandy consume menos? Si es así, tampoco estoy de acuerdo. Y en cuanto al precio, si tiene sólo que comprar la placa y las memorias, le saldrá por bastante menos de 100€.

                                  @Bm4n:

                                  Por otra parte un equipo con un Atom te saldrá en torno a los 160, que tampoco es tanto ahorro frente a un Sandy que es 30 veces más potente, y consumirá unos 10-20W menos.

                                  Creo que he dicho que consumirá menos el Atom. Y de precio si solo cuentas placa cpu y memorias:
                                  Sandy 144€.
                                  Atom 90€.

                                  Recordando que las DDR2 ahora están mas caras que las DDR3, con lo cual esos 50€ de más que cuesta un Sandy te dan:
                                  2GB más de RAM
                                  Una fuente de eficiencia 80
                                  4 PCIE
                                  Salida HDMI
                                  2 SATA más

                                  La diferencia es muy grande y eso sin contar que tengas que comprar cualquier día una controladora, que ya te va a costar 30-40€ con lo cual no habrás ahorrado nada.

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                                    @Bm4n:

                                    I don't think the PCI they have is compatible, it seems to me that it's higher than normal, but even so, it wouldn't seem normal to me.

                                    I think I said that the Atom will consume less. And in terms of price if you only count the motherboard, CPU and memory:
                                    Sandy 144€.
                                    Atom 90€.

                                    Remembering that DDR2 is now more expensive than DDR3, so those 50€ extra that a Sandy costs give you:
                                    2GB more of RAM
                                    A 80 efficiency power supply
                                    4 PCIE
                                    HDMI output
                                    2 more SATA

                                    The difference is very big and that without counting that you will have to buy a controller someday, which will cost you 30-40€ so you won't have saved anything.

                                    Okay, now I agree on the technical issues (the thing about the ITX motherboard in an ATX case I would have to look into it carefully), although not the configuration for the purpose it will have, simply because predicting that the emule-pc will have as a future use an HTPC and foresee that a controller will be necessary is too much of a guess. That is, if your predictions come true, without any doubt it is the best option but in my case (personal) I know that it wouldn't come true so I don't see it clear. Now that CRASHON has both points of view, let him look at the current and possible future use of the machine.

                                    By the way, 20W are close to 30€/year. It may not be much, but if the emule-pc remains for several years, it's extra money that would have to be added to the final budget of the Sandy. But as I said (at least I did) I don't know what will happen to the PC in the future. CRASHON will have to weigh the pros and cons of each configuration.

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                                      In the case of a motherboard with an Intel Atom, I would go for one with a slightly more modern chipset. The 945 is said to be terrible in terms of power consumption and significantly penalizes the overall power consumption of the motherboard. In fact, I believe that in the Asrock, what has the fan is not the micro, it's the chipset.

                                      I think this one is better, within the same brand, although it is a bit more expensive. There are other Intel options but they use SO-DIMM memory:

                                      http://www.alternate.es/html/product/Placas_base_CPU_integrada/ASRock/AD525PV3_ATOM_D525/565037/?tn=HARDWARE&l1=Placas+base&l2=Intel&l3=CPU+integrada

                                      I was trying to look at APP, but I don't know what's wrong with the website that the Intel motherboard section appears empty to me.

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                                        I'm not trying to predict the future Cobito, I'm just weighing the pros and cons, putting the prices against the options that one and the other system will give you. Anyone who has worked with an Atom knows its limitations, it's just enough to run emule, but you have to think that it's a less powerful processor than the P4 it has and that for anything extra you ask of it it will very likely fall short. And I say this with knowledge of the matter, I've also had a P4 and I have an Atom netbook that I tried to use as a video server for the PS3 and it didn't work.

                                        I always think about it as if it were for me, and I would take advantage of having a dedicated PC as a server for: emule, data, printing, remote desktop, video streaming, etc. And I know that for the price difference a low-voltage Sandy would be the best option and it will take much longer to become "obsolete". In the case of Crashon he will have to know what he values more and decide.

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                                          Well well, not even in my wildest dreams did I imagine questioning 3 veterans, thanks to all of you really.

                                          Obviously we can't read the future, but it's true that we need to have a bit of foresight regarding future use, although I am clear that if what I want is to adjust electricity consumption I can't expect to get apples from an oak tree.

                                          Right now the server is running with a bare XP and only emule, the PS3 media server, from which at the moment I stream series and movies in DVD format (4.5 Gb) and on rare occasions high definition series, I must say that right now with the P4 I have no problems with streaming, maybe a little at the beginning of DVD movies, but within a few seconds it's fine. I also have a Samsung program activated for streaming to the galaxy s (allshare), but it's occasional use. I mean 24 hours of emule and PS3 media server. To control it remotely from various devices I use VNC Server, so this program is also in use.

                                          The initial intention was to use current components to reduce the investment a bit (cases, power supply, memory, etc...), but if you see that for a little more it's worth investing a bit more to improve performance, then I would clearly take that into account.

                                          In one of the posts I referred to heat dissipation, this is because the server is in a closed cabinet and when the outside temperature is high (which is almost not the case now) things get serious, so we could also consider that the atom or sandy processor is as cool as possible.

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                                            why do you have the computer in a cupboard with no ventilation? of course the pc doesn't like that at all, and if it's because of noise issues, it's not very difficult to make a pc that makes absolutely no noise.

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