EVGA GTX 570
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buy it here EVGA GeForce GTX570 HD 1280MB GDDR5 - 292 euros
and I already tell you that this micro is not going to take advantage of the graphics, look at my signature
with the micro at 3500Mhz and it does not take advantage of the 6870 and the 570 is much more powerful than mineregards
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Already Ferelxyx, but Elsaq would buy the graphics card now and supposedly in January February the rest of the equipment (supposedly, according to what he says) so the bottleneck wouldn't be too important. Of course, the ideal thing would be tower, micro memos motherboard, graphics card, etc. all at once, but... this way the equipment ages more gradually :D:D
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The truth is that I will definitely have a bottleneck, I assume that, even though the E8400 that my friend leaves me reaches 4.5 ghz by air without problems (my friend is an overclocking enthusiast and he's not bad at it), so I hope that at 4.5 ghz it won't bottleneck so much and I can play the most current games smoothly (that's the idea, because with my current graphics card forget about playing at low quality)
The problem is always the same, the damn money, I wish I had enough to buy the whole computer, but anyway, before buying even the graphics card I'm going to wait until November 14th when the LGA 2011 officially comes out, with which I hope the i5 2500k will go down in price.
I think I'll go for the Classified graphics card, 10 years of warranty compared to the 3 years of the base version makes me think that the graphics card has passed more quality controls, and on top of that with the OC done by them, it would be plug and play, no complications (note! I like overclocking a lot, but I like it in processors, I don't trust doing it in graphics cards much because of temperatures)
Thanks! Goodbye!
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ten years of warranty are great for: a car, a fridge, an oven, but for a graphics card …. if I give you the most powerful graphics card they sold 10 years ago right now, what will you say to me? to give you an idea, the RTW is from 2001 (time flies) no one keeps a graphics card for 10 years, let's not think that they have passed more quality controls or anything and don't use the warranty as a decisive argument to decide on the purchase (since anything that goes beyond five years is almost never worth anything)
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ten years of warranty are very good, for: a car a fridge an oven, but for a graphics card …. if I give you the most powerful graphics card they sold 10 years ago right now what will you say to me? to give you an idea the RTW is from 2001 (how time flies) nobody keeps a graphics card for 10 years let's just say that they haven't passed more quality controls or anything and don't use the warranty as a decisive argument to decide on the purchase (that anything that goes beyond five years is almost never worth anything)
+1 CNCBCN
And don't be so critical about the bottlenecks, (they called us drunks) ;D
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for the bottleneck problem this is the best solution http://img.alibaba.com/photo/377523670/45ml_Long_screw_neck_glass_tube_bottle_with_aluminum_cap.jpg -
Personally I would get an HD5850 to get by, and when you go to change everything you sell it and upgrade the whole PC (save the money from the GTX570, because buying and then selling the 5850 you won't lose much money), since by then they may have released a card that is much superior in terms of quality/price/consumption compared to that possible SLI of GTX570, and certainly compared to a single GTX570
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Well, the truth is that the warranty is not an important factor in that sense as you put it, the advantage it does have is when selling it perhaps in 2 years, saying that it still has 8 years of warranty makes it easier to sell (or so I think hehe)
Warranty details aside, which version would you get? Basic or OC? What I see is that they probably have the same heatsink, right? I'm including a couple of links for informational purposes to facilitate the question I'm asking you:
- GTX 570 Base
- GTX 570 OC Classified
Do you think it's the same heatsink? I'm not sure about that.
If it were the same, what would be the point of buying a version with OC done if it's the same card, the Base version would theoretically reach those same frequencies by doing the OC yourself and saving the €50 difference, right?
That's the doubt that has always been raised for me with the typical OC versions of the same card.
Thanks! Regards!
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if they look the same on the outside, the only thing they tell you changes is that one has OC as standard and the other doesn't, the price and the warranty. in two years for that second-hand graphics card they'll give you half of what it's worth today (at best). about doing your own OC? well, if you know how to do it you can. the million-dollar question is whether the base version isn't capped. let me explain: I sell graphics card A with OC for 350 and graphics card B without OC for 300, if you can OC graphics card B and make it perform the same as version A, who will buy version A?
what I'm saying is a personal opinion and I could be wrong.
P.D. regarding the heatsink, you can only see the casing and you might have different things inside
edit: and the outputs :D:D
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Personally, I would get an HD5850 to get by, and when you go to change everything, you sell it and upgrade the whole PC (save the money from the GTX570, because buying and then selling the 5850 you won't lose much money), since by then they may have released a card that is much superior in terms of quality/price/consumption compared to that possible GTX570 SLI, and certainly compared to a single GTX570
Interesting what you say, for about 100€ I have a 5850 that with the E8400 I can play for a few months better than with my current setup.
How well do they sell second-hand? Can I get about 80€ in a couple of months or three?
Thanks! Regards!
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Interesting what you're saying, for about 100€ I have an 5850 that with the E8400 I can play for a few months better than with my current setup.
How well do they sell second hand? Can I get about 80€ out of it in a couple of months or three?
Thanks! Regards!
That's what I would do... if there aren't too many new releases those 80€ you'll get them for sure, and if not at least 70€ which is quite a lot (I would see those 20/30€ as an investment to play properly for several months).
And then for sure you can get something better and for less
Regards
P.D.: Also you always have the option that at the time of buying a pc there isn't a graphics card that you particularly like, you see the graphics power of the 5850 as sufficient and decide to invest more in the rest of the pc, since the 5850 is also no joke and could last you longer until you save a bit for when something comes out that convinces you ;D
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That's what I would do... if there aren't too many new releases, you can definitely get those 80€ out of it, and if not, at least 70€, which is already quite a lot (I would see those 20/30€ as an investment to play properly for several months).
And then for sure you can get something better and for less money
Best regards
P.D.: Also, you always have the option that at the time of buying a PC, there isn't any graphics card that you particularly like, you find the graphics power of the 5850 sufficient and decide to invest more in the rest of the PC, since the 5850 is also no joke and could last you longer until you save a bit for when something that convinces you comes out ;D
To be honest, I hadn't stopped to think about it like that, now that I see it, the 350€ for the GTX 570 seems crazy to me xD it's quite a lot of money.
I'll think about it, but it's quite likely that I'll add that 5850 to the E8400 that I'll be left with, given the situation, I think it's a bad time to renew the PC, since new processors are coming out now and AMD graphics are also coming out at Christmas (the 7000 series), with that 5850 I'll be able to play current games and hold out for a few months to see what the new CPUs and graphics bring
Thanks! Regards!
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Finally I ordered a 5850 for 105€, it's Friday so I imagine it will arrive by Monday or Tuesday, so I'll tell you what they bring me, because I read that you can get a V1, V2 or even a Vapor-X, so let's see if there's any luck jeje
Thanks for the help to everyone!
Regards!EDITO: With my source, a Seasonic S12 550w will be good for the E8400 and the HD 5850??
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Finally I have ordered a 5850 for 105€, it's Friday so I guess it will arrive by Monday or Tuesday, so I'll let you know what they bring me, because I've read that you can get a V1, V2 or even a Vapor-X, so let's see if there's any luck jeje
Thanks for the help everyone!
Regards!EDITO: With my power supply, a Seasonic S12 550w will be good for the E8400 and the HD 5850??
There are people with that power supply and a 5850 CF
You've got yourself a good deal, you'll see the differenceSalu2
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the maximum consumption is 151W so I don't think you will have any problems
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Thanks!
I'll tell you my impressions when I get there jeje
Goodbye!
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Thanks!
I'll tell you my impressions when I get there jeje
Best regards!
We're waiting for your impressions when you get the graphics
Who knows, maybe in the future you can consider doing a CF because it's very fashionable lately with this graphics and the HD5870, haha.Regards!!
Edit:
Look at a picture of your card with a CF :risitas:
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creo que mola mas el sistema de refrigeración que en CF :D:D
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Hola de nuevo! Este medio día me ha llegado la gráfica, y he de decir que he tenido suerte, por que la gráfica parece estar en perfectas condiciones e incluso diría que es nueva.
Pero ahí no acaba la cosa, me ha tocado una TOXIC, viene de seria 765 mhz y 4500 mhz, aquí el link:
http://www.sapphiretech.com/presentation/product/?cid=1&gid=3&sgid=591&pid=321&psn=&lid=6&leg=0
Que más se puede pedir por 100€? Espero que me dure mucho! Ya os contaré que tal va en juegos
Un saludo!
EDITO: Acabo de poner el Crysis Warhead en calidad Fanático, todo a tope, sin AA, y es una maravilla
todo perfecto fluido, ni un solo tirón cuando vuelva de clase (que me tengo que ir ya jeje) la probaré en otros juegos y también con filtros a ver que tal va. -
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A ver que sea refurbished no quiere decir que te venga la caja abierta como quien dice, son gráficas reparadas con embalaje nuevo, pero por ley no pueden venderlas "nuevas"
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