Help with graphics, some kind of incompatibility

[incrediboy]

@lolly:

Hola amigos, mira el otro día como algunos sabéis compré una 5850 y saqué de mi ordenador la asus 9800gtx que funcionaba perfecta.

Le vendo la asus a un chico y cuando le llega me dice que no le funciona que le salen rallitas, la gráfica a mi me iba perfecta para mi que es cosa de su ordenador, a ver si me podéis ayudar para que yo se lo solucione, así de primeras me dice que el solo ha conectado un cable y esa gráfica lleva 2 de corriente no se si vendrá por ahí el problema. su ordenador es el siguiente :

PPLACA BASE ASROCK G31M-GS

1. LGA 775 for Intel Core 2 Extreme / Core 2 Quad / Core 2 Duo / Pentium Dual Core/
Celeron Dual Core / Celeron, supporting Penryn Quad Core Yorkfield and Dual Core Wolfdale processors
2. Intel G31+ ICH7 Chipsets

• Compatible with all FSB1600/1333/1066/800/533MHz CPUs
• Supports Dual Channel DDR2 800/667/533, 2 x DIMM slots, Max. capacity up to 8GB
• Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 3100, DirectX 9.0, Max. shared memory 384MB
• 1 x PCI Express x16 slot
• PCIE Gigabit LAN 10/100/1000 Mb/s
• 4 x SATAII 3.0 Gb/s connectors
• Supports ASRock Instant Boot
• Supports Smart BIOS, ASRock OC Tuner, Intelligent Energy Saver, Extra ESD Protection
• I/O Panel: 1 x VGA Port, 4 x Ready-to-Use USB 2.0 Ports, 1 x RJ-45 LAN Port

FUENTE DE ALIMENTACION GENERICA DE 450W
2GB DE MEMORIA RAM
MICRO PROCESADOR INTEL CORE2DUO
Y UNA TARJETA DE TV.

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Muchísimas gracias de antemano

una 9800 con una fuente generica cutre? eso no va a ir bien ni por casualidad y eso en el mejor de los casos. poniéndose en lo peor esa fuente puede dar mal el voltaje y joder la gráfica.

te recomiendo que se lo expliques (en las instrucciones de la 9800 pondrá que necesita una fuente mejor segurísimo) y no admitas una devolución bajo ningún concepto.

[Mor3nikoh]

@incrediboy:

a 9800 with a cheap generic power supply? that's not going to work well by any chance and that's in the best case scenario. in the worst case, that power supply could give the wrong voltage and mess up the graphics.

i recommend that you explain it to them (the instructions for the 9800 will surely say that it needs a better power supply) and do not accept a return under any circumstances.

Hi mate, i'm the one who has the graphics card now. And i assure you that if the graphics card was working fine, it still is. And for more info, i just connected it and saw the stripes, so i captured the screen. and i turned off the pc and took out (the graphics card) to prevent any further issues. but anyway, i've been looking, and the easiest thing is to buy a 600w power supply. And see if with this one the graphics card can work 100% fine.

Regarding the pc issue, i'll forget about the power supply, since i'm going to change it. How do you see the rest of the pc? Could it work well? or do you recommend changing something? considering my short economy since i'm unemployed. Regards.

And sorry for the long post xD

[Fassou]

You don't say what micro you have, but seeing the board and with 2GB of memory, you won't be able to fully take advantage of the graphics.

Anyway, can you put the model of micro, source and memory you have to give us a better idea?

Salu2!

PD: use the CPU-Z and for the source, better a photo of the side sticker.

[Mor3nikoh]

@Fassou:

You don't say what micro you have, but seeing the board and with 2GB of memory, you won't be able to fully take advantage of the graphics.

Anyway, can you put the model of micro, power supply and memory you have to give us a better idea?

Salu2!

PD: use the CPU-Z and for the power supply, better a photo of the side sticker.

I already looked at it, mate, and the fault is the "damn" POWER SUPPLY. It doesn't give the necessary amps that the graphics card asks for at least, so I'll have to change the power supply.

And regarding the micro, it's a bit old and I know that with current games I won't be able to play. Since I won't be throwing myself at them.
But anyway, everything is already looked at so that in the not too distant future I can change the micro and memory. And I'll change the power supply this coming week… we'll see how it works.

[Mor3nikoh]

Let's hope the photo comes out clearly, otherwise tell me.

If the image looks terrible, I leave the direct link OVERPIC.net » Image Hosting » image

[incrediboy]

@Mor3nikoh:

Let's see, I hope the photo comes out clearly, otherwise tell me.

If the image looks terrible, I'll leave a direct link OVERPIC.net » Image Hosting » image

that processor is not a "core2duo" as lolly said above, it's an "intel pentium dual core", an e5300 to be more exact

[Mor3nikoh]

@incrediboy:

that processor is not a "core2duo" as lolly said above, it's an "intel pentium dual core", an e5300 to be more exact

I told lolly that, and since I'm not very knowledgeable about the subject... I bought the pc and this is what came with it.

Could I possibly run said graphics card on my pc? I know I wouldn't use it to its full potential, but next month I'll put another micro and more ram in it.

Guide me a little please.

[incrediboy]

@Mor3nikoh:

I told A lolly about it, and since I'm not very knowledgeable about the subject... I bought the PC and this is what came with it.

Could I even use that graphics card in my PC? I know I wouldn't be using it to its full potential, but next month I'll put another micro and more RAM in it.

Please guide me a bit.

with that micro the graphics card would do very little bottlenecking, so there's no need to worry. what's lacking for gaming is the RAM, it would run much better with 4gb.

[Mor3nikoh]

@incrediboy:

with that micro the graphics would do very little bottleneck, so there's no need to worry. what fails for games is the ram, it would go much better with 4gb.

I can buy that without any problems, next week the power supply will arrive, I'll get a 650W one from pccomponentes.

And the ram, as soon as I can I'll get the 8gig ones. So if that would be enough, I would be very happy.

Because in January I'm planning to change the micro SI O SI

[incrediboy]

@Mor3nikoh:

I can buy that without any problems**, next week the PSU will arrive, I'll get a 650W one from pccomponentes.**

And the RAM, as soon as I can I'll get the 8GB ones. So if that would be enough, I would be very happy.

Because in January I plan to change the CPU SI O SI

which PSU are you going to get?

about getting 8gb… for gaming 4gb is enough, you wouldn't notice the difference between 4 and 8

[Mor3nikoh]

@incrediboy:

what PSU are you going to get?

about putting in 8gb… 4gb is enough to play, you wouldn't notice the difference between 4 and 8

Ok well we'll see what happens once I get the PSU and put in the RAM…

the PSU I want to put in would be this Cooler Master GX 550W V2 RS-550-ACAAD3-EU PSU (I confused myself it's 550w)

considering that the graphics card asks for 26Amp how would that work?

EDIT: I've already seen the opinion and they don't recommend it but whatever…

Any PSU that doesn't skyrocket in price no more than 80€ since a unemployed person's economy isn't very high... what would you advise?

[Sylver]

This is mine, and my graphic sucks something more than yours, so I think your team has too much: OCZ ModXStream Pro 500W OCZ500MXSP Source

Greetings

[Mor3nikoh]

@Sylver:

This is mine, and my graphics card sucks something more than yours, so I think your team has too much: OCZ ModXStream Pro 500W OCZ500MXSP Power Supply

Regards

Good price, telling me what you have told me almost fixed it so I save it in bookmarks to buy it.

Besides, my pc doesn't have much decoration, it only has a fan on the lateral door, to power the motherboard a floppy drive and the hard drive. Nothing more.

I will put another fan to cool the cpu a little more but not much. So it is most likely that it can hold up to everything hehe

[Sylver]

It's more than enough, a couple of fans don't compromise the power supply of the equipment at all, and your equipment is not a glutton precisely, anyway here you have a page where you can calculate exactly the power you need by entering the components you have:

eXtreme Power Supply Calculator

Regards

[incrediboy]

any decent 500w or more power supply will do fine and have plenty of power. by decent power supplies I mean brands like ocz, corsair, coolermaster, bequiet, seasonic, silverstone…

[Mor3nikoh]

@Sylver:

It's more than enough, a couple of fans don't compromise the power supply at all, and your computer isn't a power hog, anyway here's a page where you can calculate exactly the power you need by entering the components you have:

eXtreme Power Supply Calculator

Regards

Ok mate I'll buy the one you've put me on to as it's not sky-high in price and I can buy it next week. I'll comment on how it went with the PC.

@incrediboy:

any decent power supply of 500w or more will be fine and will have plenty of power. by decent power supplies I mean brands like ocz, corsair, coolermaster, bequiet, seasonic, silverstone…

I understand you now mate, I'll buy the power supply the forum user told me a few lines above. And next week I'll put my impression here to see how it went. Regards and thanks for all the trouble

[lolly]

Thanks to everyone for helping us out, let's see if I'm lucky and the graphics are perfect as I think and when I change the font everything is solved and I feel at ease
thanks guys

[pablotombi]

I have that board and it doesn't work with the gts250, maybe they are incompatible

[incrediboy]

@pablotombi:

I have that card and it doesn't work with the gts250, maybe they are incompatible

they are not incompatible, the person I sold one of those cards to as second hand has a 9800 installed and so far 0 problems.

[Mor3nikoh]

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@incrediboy:

no son incompatibles, al que le vendi una placa como esas de segunda mano tiene montada una 9800 y hasta ahora 0 problemas.

me gusta leer este mensaje porque al menos sé que mi placa es compatible con la grafica. jejeje un problema resuelto, veremos con la fuente lo que pasa. Yo mi sensacion es que con la generica que tengo no le da potencia y por eso el que le salieran las rayas como si le faltara potencia para que se vea al 100% la imagen