About eReaders

[kelven]

I have the Kindle 3 and I'm delighted, it cost me €140.. but then Amazon refunded me €20 (of the customs costs that they shouldn't have charged them)..

As far as I understand it's the one that turns the page the fastest (this doesn't seem like it but it's important... I hate seeing a papyre 5 turn the page, it seems like it takes forever).. dictionaries you want (you always find them on the Internet) and books.. it doesn't read epub, but you spend 1 min converting the book to mobi or any other format that the Kindle accepts, with calibre or even the Amazon converter (free).. the battery lasts a long time... a lot, as they say it only consumes when you turn the page or turn it on... (I go a month and a half/two months without charging).. I've read about 10 books since Christmas...

By the way, reading PDFs is a bit horrible if it has images, if you want it for reading PDFs get the Ipad.

One more thing I don't recommend touchscreens, as the screen reflection is horrible.. the normal one even in the sun you can read it perfectly (like a normal book).. now one with reflections is impossible... and to have reflections and be touch you get the Ipad.. and of course 6" or more screen.

[cobito]

@kelven:

I have the Kindle 3 and I'm delighted, it cost me €140.. but then Amazon refunded me €20 (of the customs costs that they shouldn't have charged)..

As far as I understand it's the one that turns the page the fastest (this doesn't seem like much but it's important … I hate seeing a papyre 5 turn the page, it seems like it takes forever).. dictionaries you can have as many as you want (you can always find them on the Internet) and books.. it doesn't read epub, but you can convert the book to mobi or any other format that the Kindle accepts in 1 min, with calibre or even the Amazon converter (free)... the battery lasts a long time... a very long time, as they say it only consumes when you turn the page or turn it on... (I go a month and a half/two months on a charge..,) I've read about 10 books since Christmas...
By the way, reading PDFs is a bit horrible if it has images, if you want it for reading PDFs get an Ipad.

One more thing I don't recommend touchscreens, as the screen reflection is horrible.. the normal one you can read perfectly even in the sun (like a normal book)... now one with reflections is impossible... and to have reflections and be touch you get the Ipad.. and of course 6" or more screen.

As for customs, it seems that Amazon has changed its policy, because now it warns that the tariffs and such are the responsibility of the buyer.

The fact that the touch screen worsens the reading experience puts me off the Movistar one.

I'm not sure if I should go for one of these two:

BQ Cervantes

Kindle

By the way, the $114 version I understand includes advertising, but the advertising will appear if you connect to Wifi ¿no? ¿Cómo va el asunto?

[kelven]

I have the cheap one that only has WIFI... and I haven't seen any advertising to date, but I did turn on the WIFI to test it and update the firmware (which updates itself)... I haven't seen the Cervantes, but a cousin of mine has one and we'll probably meet in the summer and compare... (my one is bigger... my one is more playful... the usual stuff)...

Don't think about it too much and decide... either one will surely convince you once you start using it...
check out this website, I hope I'm not breaking any rules by posting the link:Lectoreselectronicos - Lectoreselectronicos in their forums they talk about both the Cervantes (other readers), and the Kindle (it has its own section)...

I would buy the one that gives you the least trouble when buying it, because with the Cervantes they mess with you with customs and other nonsense... it's more convenient to buy it online and have it at your house in two days than the Kindle... (I bought the Kindle because I heard it was the fastest and had the best quality up to that date... and I didn't even have to go to the store to pick it up... I'm very lazy )

[amd125]

I bought the Kindle 3 in December and I paid the customs cost, and then I bought another one in March I think for my parents and the same thing.

The advertising… no idea what it's about, I never connect the Wify. I'm delighted with the Kindle, and as they say, you can read several books with one charge. It also depends on the size of the books... but I read 2-3 with one charge.

[lforos]

After testing and researching various options, I also chose the Kindle 3. The most important factors for me are the screen clarity, even with small fonts, and the low power consumption. I also believe that it offers the best value for money.

I completely rule out backlit and touch screens (scratches, finger marks, etc.).

With the Kindle, you have the dictionaries you want and can select one as the main one that is context-sensitive (meaning, you can point to a word and have it translated or defined).

I often turn on the Wifi, especially to download book samples from the Amazon website (it lets you flip through the first few pages to see if you like it or not before buying it) and I have never had any problems with "deleting" books. What it does allow is to have your library on Amazon's servers so you can upload and download books "in the air" without connecting to a PC, but that's only for books you buy on Amazon. I don't know if that's what they meant by manipulating the content of your Kindle.

Regarding formats, the ideal is for it to be the simplest text possible (after all, it's for reading books). Kindle lets you view PDFs but it's horrible (it seems to treat them as graphics, not as text). But if you install Calibre, you can convert any format to MOBI, which is the one it uses natively. Moreover, Calibre lets you manage your library to organize all the books, keep different formats of the same book, buy books online, transfer books to the device, etc., very easily.

The Kindle is simply an e-book reader. Not a planner, not a calendar, not anything (there are actually apps like that for Kindle but they are generally lamentable). It has a web browser with logical limitations (video, flash, monochrome), but not much else.

If you want it for reading books and nothing else, I would definitely recommend it. The basic version is very affordable (the 3G doesn't seem too useful to me, unless you travel a lot and want to, for example, subscribe to the Kindle version of a newspaper, so you can read it anywhere in the world). The DX version is spectacular, but I think it's too big to be a "handheld" book. I find Calibre essential if you buy a Kindle.

[packosoft]

I used to tell Tecnho about it. I asked a work colleague for a Kindle (the cheapest one) from Amazon USA and they sent it via UPS in 3-4 days (customs included).
A month later, the screen broke (the top part can't be seen), they sent a new one in 2 days at no charge and didn't collect the old one 8 (it reminded me of what Logitech used to do with the warranty)...

[cobito]

Thanks to everyone for the responses. It seems that the touch screen is not worth it, the Kindle is the one with the best value for money. In a week or two I will place the order.

[Tecnho]

Just to remind you, in case you hadn't bought it yet, amazon.es just opened today and the Kindle is at 189 dollars.

[cobito]

@Tecnho:

Reflotando esto, por si no habías compra aún, acaba de abrir hoy amazon.es el kindle está a 189 dolares.

Bueno, he dejado aparcado un poco el hilo. A ver si tengo algo de tiempo y remprendo la actividad forera.

Al final me compre el Kindle sin 3G que al cambio me salio por poco más de 130€ con envío, aranceles y todo. El dispositivo es bastante interesante, aunque un verdadero engorro para leer PDFs por mucho que estos se puedan convertir. De momento estoy bastante contento, porque hay un repertorio bastante apañado de libros en formato nativo y el tema del diccionario era exactamente como esperaba.

En cuando a Amazon.es, no vende directamente el Kindle. Si te fijas, direcciona a la web americana. De todas formas es mejor así, porque ya estoy viendo cómo lo suben a 140€ + canon+ iva + envio…

[Gaiteiro]

Look where that got me….
Googling in search of an ebook, the internet has returned me to my hardware cradle, where I learned what a "computer" was and understood concepts so basic to life like "geek", "RL", "pink laptop", etc... (I know some of you won't understand, don't get your knickers in a twist) xD

Well, the thing is that my partner's birthday is coming up and I'm going to give him/her an ebook, I was looking for something that doesn't go much above 100€ and that's just for reading, that is, nothing extra (mp3, video, wifi, etc...).
From what I can see, a Bq Cervantes 2 might be what I'm looking for, if you know anything more I'm all ears.
Regards.

PD: Look how long it's been since I posted anything, but every time I come in, even if it's just a bounce, I still feel at home!!!!!! Thank you!!!!!!!

[Tecnho]

Hello piper, I think the best option is the Kindle from Amazon that is for 99€ and very complete.
http://www.amazon.es/Kindle-dispositivo-inal%C3%A1mbrico-integrado-electr%C3%B3nica/dp/B0051QVF7A/ref=amb_link_163062407_2?pf_rd_m=A1AT7YVPFBWXBL&pf_rd_s=center-1&pf_rd_r=0M2H8XB4WT87ER3NDD38&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=283632907&pf_rd_i=602357031

[Gaiteiro]

@Tecnho:

Hello gaitero, I think the best option is the Amazon Kindle that is for 99€ and very complete.
Kindle: wireless reading device, with integrated wifi and 15 cm (6 inch) E Ink electronic ink screen: Amazon.es: Kindle Store

;D
I was looking at it now, before I thought I saw you commenting that it was around 140€ but the posts were from last summer.
Well, I'm almost certain I'll get the Kindle, I've never bought from Amazon and this is a good opportunity
Regards and thanks again.

[Nemo]

@Gaiteiro:

;D
I was looking at it now, before I thought I saw you commenting that it came out at about 140€ but the posts were from last summer.
Well, I'm almost certain I'll get the kindle, I've never bought from amazon and this is a good opportunity
Regards and thanks again.

Well look, I bought from Amazon this week and it was very good, if you take the premium shipping the postage is free, and then if you want, when you receive it you unsubscribe and that's it.

[Tecnho]

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@Nemo:

Pues mira yo he comprado esta semana en Amazon y muy bien, si coges el envió premium los portes te salen gratis, y luego si quieres, cuando lo recibas te das de baja y ya está.

si, después date de baja si no te clavan 15€ el siguiente mes por la suscripción ;D

[Gaiteiro]

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Ah pues guay… mañana hago el pedido que ahora se me cierran los ojos y con laa misma pido una cafetera a Bulgaria...
Sois la cremme de la cremme!
Saludso!

[amd125]

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M uy buen ebook, no te arrepentirás Yo tengo el Kindle 3 que lo traje de Amazon USA hace más de un año, y encantado. El que venden ahora en España es más pequeño aún de cuerpo, la pantalla es la misma y se ve muy bien.

[Gaiteiro]

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@Tecnho:

si, después date de baja si no te clavan 15€ el siguiente mes por la suscripción ;D

Acabo de hacer el pedido,ya de paso pillé alguna cosilla más que ví a buen precio xD
Lo de los 15€ pensé que es al mes,pero es anual,para quien suela comprar está bien.
Ya os contaré que tal.
Saludos.

[victorpexacos]

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Yo tengo un Kindle Touch y la verdad es que merece la pena los Kindle.

Aqui te dejo una tabla comparativa:

:llorar:

Cosas a tener en cuenta:

El Touch todavia no tiene la interfaz en español, pero se supone que llegara a España y sacarán el firmware.

El precio del Touch lo puedes encontrar ya en España por 119e con envio incluido y en 24 horas lo tienes en casa (no en Amazon).

En cuanto a la capacidad de memoria, decir que aunque el touch tenga el doble de capacidad, si solo lo usaras para leer, te sobrara memoria, pero en el touch puedes reproducir audiolibros, mp3, incorpora text-to-spech.

El cambio de pagina en el touch esta muy bien, si tocas en el lado derecho, pasa pagina; si es la izquierda, pagina atras, y arriba aparece un menu; en el Kindle 4 el cambio de pagina se realiza con unos botones laterales, tambien muy comodos.

Tambien decir que ambos llevan un navegador web simple que hace su funcion, pero claramente el Touch para escribir es más util, porque con el kinlde 4 tienes que manejar el teclado virtual con la cruzeta.

En el Kindle 4 puedes leer apaisado, en el Touch todavia no(de forma oficial), aunque es una mejora que llegara.

El Kindle 4 viene sin publicidad, el touch que yo compre si lleva publicidad, pero no molesta PARA NADA, solo aparece cuando aparece el salvapantallas(se puede cambiar), pero no cuando se esta leyendo que es lo importante.

Con el Kindle Touch aun no se puede entrar en la tienda Amazon.es para comprar libros, cosa el K4 si que puede, ya que el Touch no esta de forma oficial en España.

En cuanto a la bateria, lo tengo desde el 3 de enero, y solo lo he cargado una vez. El K4 tiene una duracion menor, pero creo que sera suficiente, ya que se carga rapido, y lo bueno que tienen los ereaders es que no consumen practicamente nada si no lo utilizas, solo consume al cambiar de pagina, wifi y todo eso. Lo que viene a decir que no merece la pena apagarlo.

Y tambien tienes disponibles varios servicios de amazon, como 5gb de almacenamiento en la web, para ebooks; enviando cualquier archivo compatible al correo del Kindle, al enchufar el wifi y darle a sincronizar se descarga solo.

Tienen funciones muy interesantes y comodas estos Kindle por lo que la eleccion es tuya; si quieres saber quien lo vende el Touch en españa, avisa y te paso donde lo puedes encontrar.

Saludos y espero haberte ayudado.

EDIT: Firmwares Oficiales Amazon

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[deeiivid]

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A mi hermana le compraron un kindle (el de 99€) para navidad y la verdad es que lo he estado usando y es una maravilla, funciona perfecto y el catalogo de la tienda está muy bien.
He visto otros de sony, pero vamos me quedo con el kindle.