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    • xXIAldonIXxX Desconectado
      xXIAldonIXx
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      Hello, greetings to all, this is my first post on a blog, so I hope to make it as clear and concise as possible.
      I am studying a cycle of computer science, so it's about time I build a good computer to work on it and especially to game :troll:
      So I need an expert opinion, to see how this composition is, which is a CPU without any kind of peripheral, which I already have scattered around…
      I will build the computer by the summer because I will already have the money xD, besides, the new generation of Intel processors will have already come out and I hope they lower the prices of the current ones jeje
      Well, to the point, this is what I propose:

      Processor: Intel Core i5 2500 3.3Ghz Price: 178€ > I chose this because when I looked into it, I saw that this processor for gaming performed better than many i7.

      Motherboard: Asus P8Z68-V LX Price: 99€ > I am in doubt between the first one and this Asus P8P67-M PRO B3.
      The difference is that the Asus P8Z68-V LX has the Z68 chipset but does not have CrossFireX or Nvidia SLI, and the Asus P8P67-M PRO B3 does have that quality but does not have such a powerful chipset as the P67.
      (The image is of the Asus P8Z68-V LX )

      Graphics: Sapphire Radeon HD 6870 1GB GDDR5 Price: 139€ > Excellent value for money of this graphics card

      Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X DDR3 1600 PC3-12800 8GB 2x4GB Price: 48€ > They seemed to me quite good in terms of quality price.

      **Case: **AeroCool VS-3 Advance Gaming USB 3.0 Price: 38€

      Hard Drive: WD Caviar Blue 500GB SATA3 Price: 74,95€

      Power Supply: Thermaltake LitePower 700W Price: 52€

      That would be all, let me know what you think, 700W should be enough for the equipment, but I don't know much about power supplies, so I don't know if this brand is good or bad and I'm also not sure if I should change the stock cooler that comes with the processor.

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        Well, welcome, if you want to start learning about hardware and computing this is the right place.

        The i5 2500 does NOT perform better than the i7 2600, if anything it performs the same or similar. The Z68 chipset is NOT more powerful than the P67. You don't need to buy a cooler if you don't do OC. With 600W you would have enough. ATI has already officially presented almost all of its 7000 series with relatively good performance and Nvidia will do so soon with its new series, it would be good to wait and see.

        The reason for all these affirmations is detailed throughout the forum, use the search to clarify your doubts.

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          You will have new processors soon, if you can wait a couple of months it's better, by the way you will have the mid-range AMD graphics, the 7850 will not cost much more than what you propose for the 560 which, by the way, if it's not the Ti I would go for the 6870 from Sapphire for 140€.

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            I've already looked at the chipsets and you were right, they are equally powerful, but they have these qualities that differentiate them:

            P67. It allows you to overclock but you can't use the integrated graphics card.

            H67. You can use the integrated card and all its capabilities but you can't overclock.

            Z68. You can use both functionalities. Also, Intel decided to add SSD caching. However, since it's ultimately up to the motherboard manufacturers to decide which connectors to include, you'll find 2 versions with this chipset. One with these and one without them in case you want to use SSD acceleration but not the integrated graphics card. Also, this chipset supports Intel HD Audio Technology, which is no longer just an improvement of the integrated sound card.

            I mentioned the i5 because I was looking for something in terms of quality price but adjusting to the fact that I don't have that much money to put in a good i7, since the 2600 at 3.4 GHz costs 256€, so I'll put in the i5 2500 and maybe the 2500K to overclock. Thanks for the input Bm4n

            Obione I looked at the AMD 7850 and it needs a PCIx16 3.0 slot that my motherboard doesn't have, I'll leave you the link in case you want to see it
            http://www.noticias3d.com/articulo.asp?idarticulo=1593
            I looked at the other one you recommended, the 6870, and it's great in terms of price and quality, I just haven't seen a comparison between the 6870 and the GTX 560 yet, so I haven't decided yet, but this card looks very good to me, when I look at the comparison I'll see if I tweak the post a bit

            Thanks to both of you, goodbye ?

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              Hello, here I leave you an approximate comparison between both graphics. They are equalized but the 6870 is a little above, missing the FPS mark.
              GeForce GTX 560 vs Radeon HD 6870 – Performance Comparison Benchmarks @ Hardware Compare

              Best regards

              >> i7-2600K Sandy Bridge @4.4GHz || Noctua NH-D14 || ASRock Z77 Extreme4 || 4x8Gb G.Skill Ripjaws X DDR3 1600MHz || XFX RX 5700 XT 8Gb || SSD Samsung 850 PRO 256Gb & 850 EVO 500Gb || WD Caviar Green 1Tb || Barracuda 1Tb || Corsair TX650 V2 || M-Audio Fast Track Pro || KRK RP8 RoKit G3 || BenQ GW2750 27"
              >> Athlon 64 X2 5600+ Brisbane @2.9GHz || Gigabyte GA-M61PME-S2 || 2x2Gb DDR2 Kingston 800MHz || Sapphire Radeon HD 5850 Xtreme 1Gb || Maxtor 320Gb SATA2 || OCZ ModXStream 500W Modular || TEAC PowerMax 120/2 || Acer X243w 24"
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                @Sylver:

                Hello, here I leave you an approximate comparison between both graphs. They are equalized but the 6870 is a little above, lacking the FPS mark.
                GeForce GTX 560 vs Radeon HD 6870 – Performance Comparison Benchmarks @ Hardware Compare

                Best regards

                Thanks for the Benchmark comparison you saved me a lot of time I opted for the 6870 which is slightly better but is much cheaper hehe.

                Thanks for the contribution Best regards ?

                P.D: Browsing through Pccomponentes I came across this board ASRock Z68 Pro3 Gen3 that costs 101€ and has Z68 chipset, integrated graphics and a PCI Express 3.0 x16 slot (PCIE3 @ x16 mode) (PCI Express 3.0 with Intel® Ivy Bridge, PCI Express 2.0 with Intel® Sandy Bridge). How good would this be?. I know my graphics card wouldn't take full advantage of 3.0 (I think) but it would go faster, right? I mean, a bit more relaxed.

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                  Think that in a few months you will probably get a Z77 board, an Ivy, one of the new graphics cards like the 7850, and who knows, even an SSD that supposedly will drop in price this year. So don't speculate too much because things change, the PCIe 3.0 is not going to be a difference with a 2.0 graphics card and maybe not even with a mid-range 3.0, but it's about having room for maneuver, especially for the future.

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                    @Bm4n:

                    Think that from here to a few months you will probably get a Z77 motherboard, an Ivy, one of the new graphics cards like the 7850, and who knows even an SSD that supposedly will drop in price this year. So don't speculate too much because things change, the PCIe 3.0 is not going to be a difference with a 2.0 graphics card and maybe not even with a mid-range 3.0, but it's about having room for maneuver, especially for the future.

                    You're right, besides I'm going to build the computer in the summer and from here to there things can change a lot thanks for the advice.

                    Regards.

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