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    • RevdinR Desconectado
      Revdin @Revdin
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      And the operations to make the circle in the methacrylate?
      the first link is complicated to take the photos because they don't appear directly apparently.

      Thanks

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        Revdin @Revdin
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        I was thinking about the possibility of using screws from the back, on one side, and on the other a tab that holds the case. This way, the acrylic would be seen on the side without any fastening.

        One of the photos I saw had a very ingenious fastening for the sata cables so that they go up in order.

        You can see the mess of cables. I have four hard drives in this pc (in another I have 7 sata hard drives... inside a thermaltake mozart TX.

        Is there anything to group them? Maybe a mesh or something?

        The solution you provide for hard drives leaves a considerable space between them. I had thought of the option where you can fit three sata in the equivalent of two 5 and 1/4 inch bays.

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          Revdin @Revdin
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          so far i have not done how to remove the cover with fans installed.

          What type of connections are usually used?

          Thanks

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          • RevdinR Desconectado
            Revdin @Revdin
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            I think I would be better off with two 120 mm fans, one at the bottom in the center to bring in air
            and another at the top, but below the power supply, to blow air out.

            In the current state it wouldn't be necessary, but with the change of motherboard, CPU and disks I think I will put quick-release disks at the bottom, which eliminates one of the front fans, and the removable ones are closer together.

            As it is, it's a cool computer. It has a powerful power supply. I usually don't turn it off.

            Right now I've gotten used to having it without the cover on, which makes it cooler…..

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              To make the circle in the methacrylate you can use crown drills, of this type:

              For the fans, cable connection to the board or to mólex generally, quite long if possible to be able to maneuver when removing them.

              The idea of the methacrylate without apparent fastening is not bad, but the methacrylate screwed by the edges will tend to open.

              Greetings

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                Revdin @Sylver
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                I think 120 mm ones are not that big.
                But anyway, making a circle and then holes.
                I must have the minibosch somewhere. And with patience, it will surely come out. The thing is that it looks decent when seen from outside the box.

                I mentioned the cables because I have been noticed for the crucifix of cables I have.

                How do they clean the heatsink of the micro of the cpu?

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                  Revdin @Revdin
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                  "The idea of methacrylate without apparent fastening is not bad, but the methacrylate screwed by the edges will tend to open."

                  Great observation. It is convenient that the tab is wide to avoid that bending.

                  Or several tabs distributed. I think the best would be glued with crystal glue. Maybe it can be done with small pieces of the same methacrylate. As it has a certain thickness, add something that makes it fit with the box.

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                  • FranziskanerF Desconectado
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                    @Revdin:

                    I was thinking about the possibility of using screws from the back, on one side, and on the other a tab that holds the case. This way, the acrylic would be seen on the side without any fastening.

                    In one of the photos I saw, the fastening of the sata cables to go up in order is very ingenious.

                    You can see the mess of cables. I have four hard drives in this pc (in another I have 7 sata hard drives... inside a thermaltake mozart TX.

                    Is there something to group them? Maybe a mesh or something?

                    The solution you provide for hard drives leaves a considerable space between them. I had thought of the option where you can fit three sata in the equivalent of two 5 and 1/4 inch bays

                    this is usually done if you mount a fan to cool the hard drives (if they are "stuck" you cool what I know)

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                    • FranziskanerF Desconectado
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                      @Revdin:

                      of 120 mm I think they do not come that big.
                      But anyway, making a circle and then little holes.
                      Somewhere I must have the minibosch. And with patience it will surely come out. The thing is that it ends up being something decent seen from outside the box.

                      The thing about the cables I was saying because they have drawn my attention because of the crucifix of cables I have.

                      How do they clean the heatsink of the micro of the cpu?

                      you dismantle it and put it under the tap, nail brush and that's it. The other option is to use a compressed air compressor (pressurized air) they also sell some compressed air sprays (but it is more expensive) obviously if you give it a shower you have to dismantle the fan and let the heatsink dry well before mounting it.
                      regards

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                        Without wanting to offend, I would and do the same with my windowless tower xD, so as to see what's inside it's better not to put a window :ugly:

                        The modding I would do to that case is an adaptation of the hole for the power supply, preparing it so that it can be turned over. You would need a dremelada at the top and a homemade or prepared filter, if it's 14 it's better. This way you will get something useful, you will gain a lot in power supply temperature by bringing in fresh external air and not the reheated air from the inside. Although it will need fewer RPM to cool, I suppose you will hear it more for giving to the outside but well, you can't have everything xD

                        Editing: If you want to complicate things more you can repeat the trick at the back by perforating to put a 12 or 14 fan. You would be amazed by the performance/noise ratio of a SilentWings 2 14cms. compared to those 2 of 8.

                        Editing 2: I got a bit excited, I doubt that a 14 would fit there jejeje, if anything a 12. It's all about measuring or doing it on the ceiling and even putting a bottom one at the base of the tower with a filter.

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                          Revdin @Obione
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                          Obione will be attempted. Thank you very much.

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                          • FranziskanerF Desconectado
                            Franziskaner @Obione
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                            in the Obione line ….
                            is that tower one of the tall ones, right? look if you have space to put the F.A on the "floor" but with the ventilation down. drill or stick a series (generous) of holes where the fan goes in front of the power supply, mount a 140 fan blowing air in (if 2 or two 120 fit) and on the top of the tower put either two 140 or two 120 blowing air out.
                            make the holes for the fans with a jigsaw jigsaw and if they don't fit well then this for the cables I've always used the plastic coated wires that come to collect the cables from any component but if you want something more fancy although I'm a fan of duct tape :ugly: on the meshes meshes avoid the packs (they're expensive and a pain, then they come with covers you don't want for anything and they're useless. I buy them separately) to close them either pull duct tape or [="http://www.tienda-traxtore.com/tienda/index.php?page=pp_productos.php&tbusq=1&ref=ref-506&md=1"]this shrinks with heat (logical, right?) from a hair dryer for example.
                            anyway I left that tower "clean" without buying any of the above, it's just a matter of a little ingenuity and materials around the house.
                            regards
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                            • FranziskanerF Desconectado
                              Franziskaner @Franziskaner
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                              the last one is missing

                              if any moderator gets involved and wants to edit it, thanks. otherwise, to see it, you know: :troll:
                              greetings

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                                Before you cut a side panel, you should consider a couple of things.

                                The fact of making a side window is purely aesthetic, if it were about improving temperatures, the thing would be to make a couple of holes and put in fans and that's it.
                                Being aesthetic, the interior has to be very well organized and clean, keep in mind that the more fans you put in, the more dust will enter and you will have to clean more often, here it helps that the work environment is as clean as possible.

                                To help you hide elements that you don't want to be visible I would opt for cutting the side, making a drawing, there's no need to make an artwork of course.
                                For example, the area of the bays I would leave "behind the sheet" and thus I would take advantage to pass the cables there so that they are not seen or are seen as little as possible.
                                If you make the entire side in methacrylate you will have the pc in "balls" and for a pc like this to look good aesthetically... there you have to be an artist hiding cables.

                                If you decide to cut the side and screw in the methacrylate, keep in mind:
                                -The edges of the cut sheet must be perfectly polished, if not it will look "ugly".
                                -It would be convenient to paint the side, when cutting you will see the "live" metal, so a little paint on the edge.
                                -Use "allen" type screws or at least not the typical ones of all time, it seems like an unimportant detail but it will give it a touch of distinction.

                                As for ventilation, I never liked side fans, they cover too much side in my opinion.
                                I currently have a box from the pile, with 2x120 bringing in air and 1x120 taking out (plus the 140 from the power supply"), although I once had a box with 11 fans at low rpm ;D

                                And that's it, I think it had been years since I wrote so much in this section, in the end the itch is biting me and all...
                                Regards.

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                                  hello everyone.
                                  in case anyone didn't notice, I can't edit.
                                  the reason I think is clear, right?
                                  With 2 balls, edit it you lazy one xD
                                  P.D it seems we are still the same or worse
                                  regards
                                  about what Gaitero says... almost everything is fine, but the cables are better if you pass them on the right side of the tower (behind the bays) so you will surely not see any
                                  regards

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                                    This morning I ran into a neighbor of mine who told me where to get the acrylic sheet cut cheaper.
                                    And that for the holes he uses a drill and a jigsaw. He's into acrylic.

                                    My computer is currently cool because no matter how much we mess with it, it has fans bringing in air at the front and the two rear ones plus the FA blowing out….

                                    There's no more carbon no matter how many hard drives you put in.

                                    I think a couple of 5 1/4 to 3 1/2 bay adapters would be worth it for me. The ones that convert two into three bays.

                                    And I say this thinking about the future new motherboard.

                                    And I've also seen adapters to transform a 3 1/2 space into six 2 1/2 spaces I think for the SSD series.

                                    The acrylic side panel would be for show.
                                    Right now the computer is on the floor. Always on and cool.
                                    What has never failed me so far is a good FA. Always oversized.
                                    And over the years I do notice it gets a little hotter, but a good FA saves me the three hundred hard drives I usually put in.

                                    One question.

                                    I've seen that in terms of motherboards things are still the same.
                                    It's hard to find boards with more than 6 sata drives or connectors.

                                    Don't they make motherboards for fifteen hard drives or what?

                                    Thanks

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                                      …Mi ordenador actualmente es fresco porque por mucho que nos líemos tiene ventiladores entrando aire en el frontal y los dos traseros más la FA sacando...

                                      ¿Es que no hacen placas madre para quince discos duros o qué ?

                                      Ahí está el problema, que en la parte superior tienes el punto más caliente y las fuentes no son ventiladores xD

                                      Para 15 discos pilla placa decente con 8 SATA y varios PCIe para añadir controladoras, cambia la caja por una de servidor, o mejor compra discos de 3TB y funciona con 7 discos + SSD sin controladoras dedicadas.

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                                        Gracias Obione.
                                        me acabas de confirmar.
                                        la placa que tengo en el ordenador más reciente tiene 8 SATA y le puse una tarjeta de esas con salidas para discos duros adicionales.
                                        Asus P7P55D EVO

                                        Oye qué opinas del precio de los discos duros ?
                                        Dicen por las inundaciones, pero yo creo que es el monopolio que se tienen montado Seagate y Western Digital que no los deja bajar…..

                                        Discos de 3 TB (ya he visto de 4 TB) no me los admite windows xp pro fácilmente.

                                        Aunque el ordenador nuevo estaría montado sobre windows 8 de futuro.

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                                          Ahí está el problema, que en la parte superior tienes el punto más caliente y las fuentes no son ventiladores xD

                                          Para 15 discos pilla placa decente con 8 SATA y varios PCIe para añadir controladoras, cambia la caja por una de servidor, o mejor compra discos de 3TB y funciona con 7 discos + SSD sin controladoras dedicadas.

                                          Oye de verdad. Que mi ordenador no lo apago sino de san juan a corpus. Y es un ordenador fresquísimo. La fuente es buena. Tiene ya bastantes años y noto un poco más de calor, pero trota que no veas.
                                          Espera que te diré la marca y modelo.

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                                            Antes de meterte a una ventana lateral deberías tener en cuenta un par de cosas.

                                            El hecho de hacerle una ventana lateral es puramente estético,si se tratara de mejorar temperaturas la cosa es hacerle un par de agujeros y meterle ventiladores y punto.
                                            Al ser estético,el interior tiene que estar muy bien organizado y limpio,ten en cuenta que cuantos más ventiladores le metas más polvo entrará y tendrás que hacer limpieza más a menudo,aquí ayuda que el entorno de trabajo esté lo más limpio posible.

                                            Para ayudarte a ocultar elementos que no quieras que sean visibles yo optaría por cortar el lateral,haciendo un dibujo,no hace falta hacer una artistada por supuesto.
                                            Por ejemplo,la zona de las bahías la dejaría "detrás de la chapa" y así aprovecharía para pasar los cables por ahí de manera que no se vean o se vean lo menos posible.
                                            Si haces el lateral completo en metacrilato tendrás el pc en "pelotas" y para que un pc así quede bien estéticamente…ahí sí hay que ser un artista ocultando cables.

                                            Si te decides por cortar el el lateral y atornillar el metacrilato,ten en cuenta:
                                            -Los bordes de la chapa cortada han de estar perfectamente pulidos,si no quedará "feo".
                                            -Convendría pintar el lateral,al cortar verás el metal "vivo",así que una pintadita al canto.
                                            -Utiliza tornillos tipo "allen" o al menos no los típicos de toda la vida,parece un detalle sin importancia pero le dará un toque de distinción.

                                            En cuanto a la ventilación,nunca me gustaron los ventiladores laterales,tapan demasiado lateral a mi gusto.
                                            Yo ahora mismo tengo una caja del montón,con 2x120 metiendo aire y 1x120 sacando(mas el de 140 de la fuente"),aunque llegué a tener una caja con 11 ventis a bajas rpm ;D

                                            Y toma tocho,creo que hacía años que no escribía tanto en esta sección,al final me está picando el gusanillo y todo...
                                            Saludos.

                                            Al final me van a convencer y no haga nada más que meter ventiladores alante y atrás.
                                            Los ventiladores laterales montarían torbellinos.
                                            De todas formas la tapa metálica tiene de fábrica unos orificios refrigeración.
                                            Y la idea de poner la tapa de metacrilato si está sujetada con facilidad me parece buena, aunque en la ubicación de la cpu actual (en el suelo y con la tapa pal otro lao no se ve, ni se vería nada…)

                                            A mí lo que me gusta es verle las tripas a la bestia, por eso me compré la mozart TX con el ordenador nuevo.

                                            Y bueno que se aproximan los discos SSD con menos calor.

                                            Mis ordenadores son ruidosos la verdad. La Thermaltake Mozart TX tiene puestos y funcionando 9 ventiladores grandes de 120, uno pequeño de led azules, más la toma de la fuente de alimentación que en la mozart está muy bien diseñada. Toma el aire directamente del exterior y lo lanza al exterior.

                                            A cambio es un ordenador fresco y espacioso. La mozart es una burrada. Un pedazo de caja para meterle de presente y de futuro todo lo que vaya saliendo.

                                            Por lo mismo no me gusta cambiar cajas ni persigo efectos estéticos apreciables. Sólo la funcionabilidad....

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