Intel will solder the microchips to the motherboards

[cobito]

According to what I read here, Intel has decided that in its new generation of processors, it will stop using sockets and these will be soldered to the motherboard, preventing them from being replaced.

It seems to me a too radical change to give it credibility, but everything is possible.

[deeiivid]

I think it's not very convenient for them to do that... Many enthusiasts change microprocessors more often than motherboards, if they do it they will lose market share and also annoy people xD

[Tecnho]

I see it as very radical as you rightly say cobito and it would seem very strange to me because they would lose a very important market right now, that of enthusiasts like me and many others, then they would have to agree with all the motherboard brands.
I imagine it would be more focused on low-mid range computers and for OEM equipment from brands if not, it doesn't add up much for me but well if something like this happened with all future processors, AMD would be welcome.

[Franziskaner]

I find it very strange, it's like going back in time :facepalm:
at very low ranges and if they are price cuts (I3?) it may be possible, but in the rest of the range ….. I don't think so
if that's the case, the next thing will be to solder the heatsink to the micro (like many years ago) :ugly:
regards

[Sylver]

I think the same, if anything in basic home equipment or HTPC, maybe… But as the mid-to-high range ones are like this, Intel's blunder will be huge :facepalm:
Anyway, what a surprise the news is!

[Franziskaner]

In the worst/best of cases we will learn to perform micro welding :troll:
Regards

[cobito]

I'm with Tecnho. This must be a way to reduce costs in the lower end of the desktop in the same way they already sell Atom boards with the processor soldered.

[Franziskaner]

what is still a pipe dream is that the guys at intel stretch and come up with the equivalent of the raspberry pi, just thinking about it makes my mouth water :sisi:
regards

[Kernel1.0]

@cobito:

I'm with Tecnho. This must be a way to reduce costs in the lower range of the desktop in the same way they already sell Atom boards with the processor soldered.

That's what I was going to say, they already do it with the Atom and it's normal that they continue to do it but in that price/performance range if it doesn't go my***a, imagine a top-of-the-range i7 stuck to a 300 euro board, something breaks and goodbye.:facepalm:

[_Neptunno_]

Well, my opinion is the same as everyone else's, this will at most be in the low range, or low-mid range. The rest will continue to be a matter of being able to change the motherboard and CPU.
Although the constant change in sockets lately... well, what can I say, you almost always end up changing the motherboard when you change the CPU :troll:

Another problem would be with RMA, if the motherboard dies, which statistically is more likely to fail than the CPU, it will always be more costly for companies, I think. Because they will have to either demount the CPU and put it back on the new motherboard, or give you one with a new CPU and that's an additional cost.
Maybe I'm wrong and it doesn't affect them, but... I find it hard to believe that this doesn't pose an economic problem for motherboard manufacturers.

Regards!!

[kynes]

My opinion is that we are four cats, Intel makes money in other market segments, and the advantages in them make it possible for them to compensate for the move. Get used to the idea...

[cobito]

@kynes:

My opinion is that we are four cats, intel makes money in other market segments, and the advantages in them make it possible for them to compensate for the move. Get used to the idea...

It is also possible. Since tablets have become popular, I think the home desktop PC is doomed to die. I have noticed that the vast majority of PC users can do everything they did with the limited functions of a tablet.

The desktop PC will be left only for enthusiasts, gamers, professionals and offices; basically the same ones who used PCs before the Internet boom in the early 2000s.

[packosoft]

my download PCs have the micro soldered xDDD
from what I've read around, they say that using a socket causes limitations when scaling due to the losses produced by the connection between the pins and the micro.
Of course I can already see PCs with the 3 red lights or the yellow ring of the moment because the temperatures have caused the solder to fail and come together…

[Sylver]

@packosoft:

my download PCs have the micro soldered xDDD
from what I've read around, they say that using a socket causes limitations when scaling due to the losses produced by the connection between the pins and the micro.
Of course I can already see PCs with the 3 red lights or the yellow ring of the day because the temperatures have caused the solder to fail and come together…

Well they are baked like XaviJS's graphics and that's it

[fjavi]

It's been a while since the thread, but it seems that Intel will continue to use the LGA socket for a while, the BGA must be for cheaper computers.

Intel will support socket formats in the "foreseeable future"

That is, they will possibly leave only LGA for high-end ranges and BGA for laptops and builder computers, it seems that Haswell could be the last LGA, although they must release something in socket 2011 after Haswell.

regards

[Falkemberg]

mmm but I've read that this was only aimed at computers assembled by assemblers (DELL, HP..etc) and/or equipment sold by intel for companies… that is, for the business sector both large and medium and small businesses... that support would continue to be given to the average user as before but with some types of micro, not all. P.D:....by the way...since 2005 without entering :wall::wall:

[deeiivid]

@Falkemberg:

mmm but I've read that this was only aimed at computers assembled by assemblers (DELL, HP..etc) and/or equipment sold by intel for companies…that is, for the business sector both large and medium and small businesses...that support would continue to be given to the average user as before but with some types of micro, not all.

P.D:....by the way...since 2005 without entering :wall::wall:

But equally this closes a lot of work for those of us who professionally or to make a little money (like me) dedicate ourselves to repairing computers of that type… Or even to give them a second life in the future.

[Wargreymon]

They will only be mid and low ranges, which are supposed to be alternatives, that is, the i7 and i5 will continue to be normal LGA or perhaps they will change them to LC-PGA, and the low-end Pentium and i3 will continue to exist normally in LGA (Pins on the Motherboard) or LC-PGA (Pins on the CPU) and also soldered to boards as an alternative. Perhaps this will stop selling mini-ITX boards as they are sold now and will switch to selling almost all with BGA CPU soldered.

[Falkemberg]

@deeiivid:

But equally, this closes a lot of work for those of us who professionally or to make a little money (like me) dedicate ourselves to repairing computers of that type... Or even to give them a second life in the future.

Well yes... but they have done this like the cars.... you can't even change a headlight without dismantling half the car... so only the workshops could repair (with the subsequent economic anger of the normal user).... well, almost the same thing... only the assemblers could repair their equipment... making a profit from it.