Kingston 120 GB HyperX 3K

[boncoe]

Well I know that the book of tastes is written in blank, as well as that there will be people who say that this model is bad and others good.
I would like to see your opinions about this model in particular, I have looked at several reviews and opinions and it seems to be a good product, but I would like to know the opinion of the administrators and the people who have it installed on their computer. I have in mind next month to buy an SSD of 120 or 128 GB and I am between the Kingston, the Samsung 840 Pro, SanDisk Ultra Plus 128GB, Toshiba Q-Series 128GB.
Let's see if you can give me your opinions

[boncoe]

No any opinions on this model?

[Fassou]

If you want an opinion, limit the choice between the Samsung and the Sandisk.

And buy the Samsung 840.

Salu2!

[boncoe]

@Fassou:

If you want an opinion, limit the choice between the Samsung and the Sandisk.

And buy the Samsung 840.

Salu2!

Thanks for the advice, for some special reason? what do you base it on?

[Bm4n]

Everything that has sandforce controllers will continue to have our distrust, while the Samsung for the moment seems reliable and performs well, not as much as the 256, but it's not bad either. Unfortunately, almost all SSDs have drawbacks so you have to think about it carefully.

[Fassou]

I put a picture, just to document the post.

Salu2!

[boncoe]

@Fassou:

I'm adding a picture, just to document the post.

Cheers!

Thanks for your contribution, very good contribution. So you recommend the Marvell controller over Sandforce? And I wonder at this point, haven't they improved Sandforce's errors with updates?

[Fassou]

I don't have a lot of money to spare, and when I buy an HDD it's to last a few years, without having to worry about mysterious data loss due to corruption, or having to change the firmware. Performance is important, but once certain minimums are reached, reliability and the proper functioning of the warranty service are more important. Best regards!

[boncoe]

Within the range of SanDisk SSDs, the only ones that have a Marvell controller are the Ultra Plus, since the rest, like Sandisk and SanDisk Extreme, have the Sandforce controller. Could you confirm this for me?

[ferelxyx]

SanDisk SSD Ultra Plus, based on Marvell SS889175 6Gbps SATA/NAND controller.
SanDisk Extreme SSD (SandForce SF-2881)

the ultra plus is a little faster than the Crucial M4

I have the 64MB Crucial M4 and I am very happy, considering that it is much slower than the same in 128MB and 256MB

regards

[boncoe]

Well I think I have it clear, I will opt for the Marvell controller and within this Sandisk Ultra Plus or failing that Crucial M4 all this in 128 Gb.
Thanks for your advice

[Bm4n]

The Samsung 840 pro 128gb is a bit more expensive but also performs a bit more, it is also an option.

[boncoe]

@Bm4n:

The Samsung 840 pro 128gb is a bit more expensive but also performs a bit more, it is also an option.

It probably has a bit more performance, but in an APP store near my house there is a price difference right now of 44€ compared to the Sandisk ultra Plus of 128Gb, I think it does not compensate for a bit more performance for that difference. Apart from this, the leap I am going to make in the equipment will be beastly since my operating system is installed on a WD Caviar Blue HDD of 500 Gb at 7,200 Rv of 16 Mb of buffer.

Taking advantage of the thread as you can see this option in terms of performance reliability and price compared to the Sandisk Ultra Plus:

• **Sandisk Ultra Plus 128 Gb SDD 91.80€
• PLEXTOR PX-128M5S M5S SSD 128GB 2.5 SATA3 105,10 €**

[Bm4n]

They also spoke very well of the plextor, I'm not sure if it was that particular model, if it is I would go for it.

[ferelxyx]

it's not worth it, it doesn't have trim and it consumes a lot
buy the sandisk or the crucial

regards

[Bm4n]

@ferelxyx:

no tiene trim

:( that's weird... it's worth saving and spending on one with good capacity and performance. At least I don't regret spending the money in the slightest.

[boncoe]

@ferelxyx:

it's not worth it, it doesn't have trim and consumes a lot
buy the sandisk or the crucial

regards

Can you explain what exactly trim is, and regarding consumption, generally SSDs usually consume the same amount, right?

[Sylver]

@boncoe:

Can you explain exactly what TRIM is?

I asked the guru and he said this:

! In computing, a TRIM command allows an operating system to communicate to a solid-state drive (SSD) which data blocks are no longer in use, such as data left behind when files are deleted. An OS operation like a delete usually only marks the involved blocks as unused. TRIM allows the OS to pass that information to the SSD's controller, which would otherwise not know which blocks it can delete.
! The purpose of the instruction is to maintain the speed of the SSD throughout its entire lifespan, avoiding the slowdown that early models suffered when they reached writing to all cells at least once.1
! Although there were already tools to reset some SSD models to their original state, they could not be considered optimization tools since they needed to erase all the data on the drive.
! The initial cause of the problem is that SSDs do not know which blocks are actually in use and which are free. SSDs do not understand the structure of the file system used by the computer's operating system and cannot access its list of unused clusters. This causes problems in two places:
! SSDs can write 4KiB blocks, but due to hardware limitations, they must erase larger blocks (e.g., 128KiB-512KiB). Because the drive cannot know which of the 4KiB blocks is still in use if it has been written before, each write requires a larger read-erase-modify-write cycle, assuming that no additional free blocks are available on the SSD (e.g., after all blocks have been marked as at least partially written). The term for this phenomenon is write amplification.2 3 4
! Wear levelling allows a drive to re-arrange its data so that writes are not confined to one corner of the flash chip. Flash cells only tolerate a limited number of writes before failing, so some SSDs move data around to distribute the write load more evenly across all blocks in the drive. Because the drive does not know which blocks are actually in use by the file system, each block of data written by the drive requires an additional write due to the displaced block.
! The specifications for the TRIM command5 are being standardized as part of the ATA interface standard, led by the T13 Technical Committee of the International Committee for Information Technology Standards.6

Source: TRIM - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Best regards

[boncoe]

@Sylver:

I asked the guru this question and he told me this:

! In computing, a TRIM command allows an operating system to inform a solid-state drive (SSD) which data blocks are no longer in use, such as data left behind when files are deleted. An OS operation like a delete usually only marks the involved blocks as unused. TRIM allows the OS to pass this information to the SSD controller, which would otherwise not know which blocks can be erased.
! The purpose of the command is to maintain the speed of the SSD throughout its lifetime, avoiding the slowdown that early models suffered when they had to write to every cell at least once.
! Although there were already tools to reset some SSD models to their original state, they could not be considered optimization tools since they needed to erase all the data on the drive.
! The initial cause of the problem is that SSDs do not know which blocks are actually in use and which are free. SSDs do not understand the structure of the file system used by the computer's operating system and cannot access its list of unused clusters. This causes problems in two places:
! SSDs can write 4KiB blocks, but due to hardware limitations, they must erase larger blocks (e.g., 128KiB-512KiB). Because the drive cannot know which of the 4KiB blocks is still in use if it has been written to before, each write requires a larger read-erase-modify-write cycle, assuming that no additional free blocks are available on the SSD (e.g., after all blocks have been marked as at least partially written). The term for this phenomenon is write amplification.
! Wear levelling allows a drive to re-arrange its data so that writes are not confined to one corner of the flash chip. Flash cells only tolerate a limited number of writes before failing, so some SSDs move data around to distribute the write load more evenly across all blocks in the drive. Because the drive does not know which blocks are actually in use by the file system, each block of data written by the drive requires an additional write due to the displaced block.
! The specifications for the TRIM command[5] are being standardized as part of the ATA interface standard, led by the T13 Technical Committee of the International Committee for Information Technology Standards[6].

Source: TRIM - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Best regards

Haha, needless to say. …., we'll look it up in the wikiespavilaburros

[krampak]

I seem to have read somewhere that you could save yourself the TRIM by leaving the PC on in the BIOS overnight with the garbage collector XD I'm saying this from memory and I'm not sure if the terms I mentioned were exactly these… :ugly: