Make a new pc - Which RAM do I put…
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Hello. First of all, I want to introduce myself and say that I am new here. (I'm not sure if this should go here or in the RAM section, since the question is about RAM but for a specific computer
)I'm building a new PC that I will use for Autocad, rendering, video editing (vegaspro, etc.), photoshop and of course also for gaming
Initially, the configuration will be as follows, but I have a question about the RAM.
Motherboard: Asus Maximus V Formula
CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K
Graphics: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 2GB GDDR5 (initially just one, but I'm considering the possibility of putting 2 of these in SLI)
Hard drive: One SSD and one mechanical for secondary things, saving files, etc.
RAM: 16 Gigas (or 32??) but here's the question.I've been looking at the RAM and I have a question about Latency vs Frequency. For the use I'm going to give it, what would be better? For example, I'm considering 2 options: 1600 CL9 or 2133 CL10.
How good is Corsair brand RAM?
Best regards and thanks in advance.
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Hello and welcome
if you can afford them these are more than enough:
G.Skill Ripjaws Z DDR3 2133 PC3-17000 32GB 4x8GB CL9 - 266 euros
regards
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Hello and welcome
if you can pay for them, these are more than enough:
G.Skill Ripjaws Z DDR3 2133 PC3-17000 32GB 4x8GB CL9 - 266 euros
I can afford it, but the store where I planned to buy the parts (not online) told me the other day that they don't supply that brand. They offered me these:
Vengeance
— 16GB Dual Channel DDR3 Memory Kit (CMZ16GX3M2A2133C10) - Vengeance - Memoria por gama de productos
I would have to buy 2 packs of 16gb. They have a frequency of 2133 but the latency compared to the ones you mentioned is worse since these are CL10. Would the difference be noticeable? Not on paper with the brands' data (you know they always exaggerate), but in real operation.Thanks.
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From the reviews I've read, you won't notice the CL10 over the CL9, compared to having 32gb for demanding programs. In fact, if you look at the increase in latencies every time the ram has changed, you'll notice that we went from 2-2-2-5 to 4-4-4-7 or 5-5-5-11 to 9-9-9-31. If you notice, it can be said that it would be equivalent to good ddr, and we're going to 2133, which I don't think you'll notice. As long as the motherboard supports that frequency, get the one you like the most and that have a good warranty. And a tip, don't get them in blister packs, because if one fails, you'll have to send them all back. Or at least that's what I'm forced to do in Lanzarote. I was without memory for 2 months because of the damn pack.
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the ones you put are good, just keep in mind that the memory heatsinks don't bother you with the micro heatsink
about the packs I disagree with garfield but it's better in pack
you live in canarias for these and many other things it's a pain
because everything takes too long or it's not availableregards
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Well for now I'll stick with the ones I put up before.
I had already thought about the heatsink issue and I don't think I can use the 2 I had in mind with those megas. I'll keep looking to see what I can find around here. Any suggestions?
Regards.
Edit:
I'm immediately ruling out heatsinks of this type with the megas I mentioned before:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/11559_199773921583_1563034_n.jpgBut with these, I assume that with most of them I shouldn't have any problems:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/13744_188290011583_7793018_n.jpg -
hello.
autocad 2d or 3d
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hola.
autocad 2d o 3d
saludosFor me 2D, but for a person in my family I will have to do something in 3D… so directly 3D.
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It depends on the area where you live. If the summers are very hot, the homemade option is the cheapest: leave the case open on both sides and place a desktop fan blowing towards the inside.
A brush like the one for dye, well passed two or three times a year, dismantling the heatsink, and no problems.
The RAM, well, it depends on two things: the budget and the need. And in a middle point is what is recommended... it sounds like a nonsense (and it is) but that's how I see it. If you put the maximum in quantity and quality, and you really don't need it, apart from the whim you won't see the point; and on the contrary you will have a brick with a monitor that will need to use virtual memory all the time, with the drop in performance that this implies.
You can try to put 32 GB in more humble modules that come out at a good price, with or without heatsink (you can always buy them later).
In any case, to set up a plant or even for a rendering presentation with Modular Kitchens, with that beast you have more than enough.
Normally (be careful with this) the heatsinks for the micro usually don't cause space problems with respect to the RAM modules, especially if the modules don't use a heatsink... which doesn't seem to be the case.
The ones you indicate have a pretty high profile, but I also don't know what heatsink we are going to mount. You can opt (which is the healthiest) for them to assemble it in the store and test it, it will cost you about 40€ more but you will have more options of not having surprises when using it.
Last but not least, welcome and thank you for trusting our criteria for your future PC.
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Normally (be careful with this) the heatsinks for the micro usually do not cause space problems with respect to the RAM modules, especially if the modules do not use a heatsink… which does not seem to be the case.
The ones you indicate have a pretty high profile, but I also do not know what heatsink we are going to mount. You can opt (which is the healthiest) for them to mount it in the store and test it, it will cost you about 40€ more but you will have more options of not getting surprises when using it.In principle I was thinking of a heatsink of this type that is the ones I believed would cause less problems with the ram:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/181754_10150149635351584_4487679_n.jpgBut I see that a RAM module could not be placed. In the case of the heatsink in the photo if it is the noctua I think it can be placed with 1, 2 or without fan, so it could be placed only with the fan on the opposite side to the megas… but as you say the best thing is to test it in the store and they will see what is better to put.
Regarding the need, in principle I prefer to have more than enough ram because I will need it, if anything I will look for some more economical module.
Thanks for your answers
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The last RAM modules I bought were specifically looking for low profile ones (vengance LP 4x4GB) because otherwise, for those of us who do OC, it forces you to put some RL kit... And those horns they put on them now are more decorative than anything else.
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In principle, it's not my intention to OC.
By the way (I'm completely out of date on hardware), looking at the motherboard specifications, I've seen that they have the following: 1 x CMOS reset button with LED
I imagine this will be to reset the CMOS if you OC it and leave it as it came from the factory, right?
And if you press it by mistake while cleaning, moving the PC or plugging in the cables, would something happen or do you have to press it at a specific time for it to work?Another question.
Which would perform better, putting in a graphics card with 4 gigabytes of RAM, like this one:
http://www.coolmod.com/product/18368/0/0/1/T-Grafica-Gigabyte-GeForce-GTX670-OC-4GB-DDR5-Juego-Metro-Last-Light.htm
Or look for 2 lower-end ones with 2 gigabytes each, so you would have 4 gigabytes in graphics and the performance of the 2 graphics would be more than that of the individual one -
The switch will not work if the jumper is not in the right position, so you don't have to worry about that.
Regarding the GPU, we need to make a few clarifications.
The SLI (nVidia) system or Crossfire (ATI) is true that allows you to mount two cards to work in parallel, but that doesn't mean that the specifications are duplicated. It will depend largely on the optimization of the software you use with respect to said technology, and on very rare occasions the improvement will mean an increase of 80% or 90%, pushing very high. In others, you will barely notice an increase of 5%.
That said, the higher the resolution, the more efficient.
But decidedly, if we have 2 GPUs with 2GB VRAM each, in total we have… 2 GPUs with 2GB VRAM each, the VRAM values do not add up.
To work with AutoCAD, you have long exceeded the optimal configuration, if what you really want is to work for Pixar, you are on the right track. ;D -
For working with AutoCAD, you have long exceeded the optimal configuration, if what you really want is to work for Pixar, you are on the right track. ;D
Haha, I wish working for Pixar were true…
I ask about the graphics thing because of the games, since I will also use it for that, and for games, graphics are necessary.
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Jajaja, I wish working for Pixar were true…
I ask about the graphics thing because of the games, since I'll also use it for that, and for games you do need graphics.
Ah, got it, then "it's for judging, and using AutoCad occasionally". ;D
So it's just a matter of whim and budget. I explain, what you spend is amortized "only in satisfaction", so you have to make sure that this lasts for the longest possible period of time.
I built my last computer in 2004, it was "pretty good", nothing out of this world, and it lasted until the summer of 2011, when the graphics card (an MSI RX9800-TD128, bless it) literally "exploded" (even the heatsink mounts came off).
With this example, I come to tell you several things, first that a high initial investment allows you to delay the aging of the equipment: you'll be able to play last-generation games for longer, although little by little you'll see that you'll have to lower the level of detail to get a decent FPS. Second, that the more powerful the components, the more heat you'll have to dissipate, and heat does much more damage to a PC than you can imagine. And third, that in the end, things break, all of them.
In any case, take a look at this. You have to update it but even so it will guide you better than I can.
Help topic: What do I need? - HardLimit -
Ah, I see, so "it's for judging, and using AutoCad occasionally".
You caught me, haha. :verguen: :rollani:
With this example, I come to tell you several things. First, a high initial investment allows you to delay the aging of the equipment: you will be able to play the latest games for longer, although little by little you will see that you will have to lower the level of detail to get a decent FPS. Second, the more powerful the components, the more heat you will have to dissipate, and heat does much more damage to a PC than you can imagine.
That's why I'm wanting to make something powerful now, I can tell you that same example firsthand. In 2006, I built the PC that I still use today: a decent dual core (I can't remember the model now), 2 gigabytes of RAM, a good graphics card... and it has lasted me a long time; except for the RAM, two years ago I tried to expand it to 4 gigabytes and couldn't find ones the same as mine or with the same performance (they were DDR2, all that was left in stock was very expensive and with inferior characteristics to what I needed). Until about a year and a half ago, I could play almost everything by lowering the details and with fewer FPS, but it worked fine. That's why now I want to do something similar, if I can go 4-5 years without having to expand anything (unless out of necessity, or a breakdown), then that would be luxurious.
Regarding the graphics card, I think I'll put the Gigabyte GeForce GTX670 OC 2GB (I ruled out the 4GB one, plus it takes up 3 slots) or the Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 OC 2GB (the price difference isn't much and the 770 performs better according to what I've seen in tests). With that, I currently think it's enough for both AutoCad and gaming, and later if I'm in a hurry regarding graphics, it can be solved by changing it or mounting another one in SLI. Good idea, right?
Regards.
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if you are going to spend a lot, get the latest and don't bother
Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5Ghz Box Socket 1150 - 315 euros
ASRock Z87 EXTREME6 - 178 euros
G.Skill TridentX DDR3 2133 PC3-17000 16GB 2x8GB CL9 - 137 eurosa good heatsink and a good power supply, large and ventilated case, and you have a great rig
regards
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caja grande y ventilada
Speaking of cases, what do you think of this one:
http://www.corsair.com/es/pc-cases/graphite-series-pc-case/graphite-series-600t.htmlBest regards
