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      recoco
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      Hello everyone,

      You see, I've been doing some PC maintenance for a couple of days, including installing Windows 8 (64-bit), making sure the temperatures are correct, and finally, getting the PC up and running.
      Temperatures:

      CPU: Core i7 860 –----------> 35ºC all its cores and 60ºC at full.
      Motherboard: P7P55D-E ------> 40ºC
      Hard Drive: WDC ------------> 40ºC
      GPU: PNY GTX 560 Ti XLR8 -> 39ºC and 90ºC at full!!!!

      All components are from 2010. Until a week ago, everything was running at temperatures between 60º-70º. Last week I noticed the motherboard was beeping strangely, so I checked and it was because the GPU was reaching 85ºC -90ºC in 3-4 minutes of gaming. And when I stopped playing, the graphics dropped to 40ºC in about 2-3 minutes. I
      took it apart to remove the fluff and dust and that's it.

      Right now, without the case on, the GPU is at 38ºC.

      Any suggestions? Any help is welcome and appreciated.

      Regards

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        Clean the heatsink with compressed air, or disassemble it and clean it thoroughly, I wouldn't put the last three or four drivers, they heat up the graphics more, although it's hot but you could also make a fan profile at 560 with the EVGA precision, if you set it to accelerate when it passes 55º it will surely heat up less.

        but some of the latest drivers heat up my cards more, it's not because of summer because the previous ones were hot and didn't heat up as much, especially the last official driver heats up more.

        regards

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          Perhaps this will help you.

          I also had this problem with the ASUS 8800 GT, the one with the big fan. At first, the graphics card at full load did not exceed 65 or 70 degrees Celsius. However, when the thermal paste dried out, it had some temperature spikes that sometimes reached almost a hundred degrees, in addition to the performance getting worse.

          I solved that problem when I cleaned the GPU and put new thermal paste on it. The graphics card was like new again.

          So, you should clean the graphics card, especially the heatsink. Dust raises the temperatures of all components a lot.

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            Well, I'll do what you say: I'll disassemble the GPU, both the casing and the heatsink, and clean it thoroughly, change the thermal paste, and do the stability tests. Then I'll get to it and I'll keep you informed. Thanks. One detail, does the thermal paste from my Noctua work the same for the GPU?
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              @recoco:

              Well, I'll do what you say: I'll disassemble the GPU, both the casing and the heatsink, and clean it thoroughly, change the thermal paste, and do the stability tests. Then I'll get to it and I'll keep you informed. Thanks. One thing, does the thermal paste from my Noctua work the same for the GPU?

              If that thermal paste works, that one is usually better than the one that comes with the graphics cards, even if you don't want to disassemble anything, you can make a fan profile with EVGA precision or MSI Afterburner, because the factory profiles from Nvidia accelerate very late and so they get hotter, but also if you clean it you should notice it quite a bit.

              regards

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                recoco @fjavi
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                @fjavi:

                If that thermal paste is worth it, it's usually better paste than the one that comes with the graphics cards, even if you don't want to disassemble anything, you can make a fan profile with EVGA precision or MSI Afterburner, because the factory profiles from Nvidia accelerate very late and so they get hotter, but also if you clean it you should notice it quite a bit.

                regards

                Alright. The curious thing is that at idle it has reached up to 38ºC but it's not understood that in less than 2 min it's already at 80-90ºC when I open a game.

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                  Another problem I have, for the past 1 week I have been hearing beeps (pipipi would be 1 beep), sets of 5 beeps, 9 beeps, 17 beeps, 20 beeps... in a random way. What could this be due to?

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                    fjavi @recoco
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                    @recoco:

                    Another problem I have, for 1 week now I have been hearing beeps (pipipi would be 1 beep), sets of 5 beeps, 9 beeps, 17 beeps, 20 beeps... randomly like that. What could this be due to?

                    As for the beeps, check that the card is properly connected, I mean the power supply, check that no connector is slightly loose.

                    Then if the card is heating up so quickly it's because it's not dissipating heat well, it must have a very dirty heatsink, anyway you should make a more aggressive fan profile until you clean that heatsink, also make sure the fan speeds up, it's the same as being fixed at some revolutions and that's why it heats up so quickly.

                    regards

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                      recoco @fjavi
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                      @fjavi:

                      Check that the card is properly connected, I mean the power supply, check that no connector is slightly loose.

                      Then if the card is heating up so fast, it means it's not dissipating heat well, the heatsink must be very dirty, anyway you should make a more aggressive fan profile until you clean that heatsink, also make sure the fan is spinning up, it's stuck at some RPM and that's why it's heating up so fast.

                      regards

                      The thing is, the beeping started before I took it apart, I mean after 2 years of being mounted in the PC, last week it started beeping several times randomly, without having taken anything apart before and as I say my graphics card was running at 70 degrees at most under full load.
                      Yesterday I tried to take the GPU apart and I removed all the screws except for the two corners of the connections and it wouldn't budge, I mean it was like it was soldered in.

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                        hello
                        about the heatsink it could be for two reasons.
                        because you have to remove some more screws ;D
                        or because the thermal paste is like a rock :wall: in the second case do not pull the heatsink try to turn it slowly until it comes off, as if it were the CPU, you never remove it by pulling it always remove it by turning it a little
                        .
                        regards

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                          @Franziskaner:

                          hello
                          about the heatsink it could be due to two things.
                          because you may have to remove some more screws ;D
                          or because the thermal paste is like a rock :wall: in the second case don't pull the heatsink try to turn it slowly until it comes off, like it would be the CPU one, which you never remove by pulling it always remove it by turning it a little
                          .
                          regards

                          The most curious thing is that after having dismantled it I don't go above 80º C without changing thermal paste or anything. I will try what you say, perhaps it is like a rock. The only screws I have left are 2 of the corners that hold the connection support.

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                            if you have never disassembled a graphics card, the truth is that the first time it is difficult and gives you a certain feeling, for fear of breaking something, but with care nothing happens.
                            I can't remember if the asus 560 is closed on both sides (top and bottom), if so it has tabs that are usually undone with toothpicks (on a gtx 280 I saw them and wished for them ;D)
                            be careful not to lose the thermal pads on the memos.
                            regards

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                              recoco @Franziskaner
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                              @Franziskaner:

                              if you have never disassembled a graphics card, the truth is that the first time it costs and gives you a certain feeling, for fear of breaking something, but with care nothing happens.
                              I don't remember if the asus 560 is closed on both sides (top and bottom) if so it has tabs that are usually nullified with toothpicks (in a gtx 280 I saw them and I wished them away ;D)
                              be careful not to lose the thermal pads on the memos.
                              regards

                              Now you've caught me ? If it's the first time you disassemble it since I have never had temperature problems with the graphics cards, so I don't exactly know what that thermal pad thing is.
                              I have removed all the screws except the one on the front of the connections and the result was that it moved slightly to one side and the other side was just as firm as with screws.

                              Regards

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                                remove all the screws you see ;D
                                the stock heatsinks and all the others (except some quality RL blocks) all make direct contact with the GPU pure none with the GPU memory modules to correct this they usually mount this
                                http://www.tienda-traxtore.com/tienda/index.php?page=pp_productos.php&tbusq=1&ref=ref-517&md=1
                                here they explain more or less how it is done and what thermal pads are
                                regards

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                                  @recoco:

                                  The thing is, the beeping started before disassembling it, that is, after 2 years of being mounted on the PC, last week it started beeping several random beeps, without having disassembled anything before and as I say, my graphics card was working at 70 degrees at most under full load.
                                  Yesterday I tried to disassemble the GPU and I removed all the screws except for the two corners of the connections and it wouldn't move at all, that is, as if it were soldered in place.

                                  But it could be what I'm telling you, sometimes the connection comes loose a little and the graphics card has a beep when it doesn't have the power supply connected, it often happens that over time and when moving the cables a bit, a connection gives way a little, it seems connected but it stays a bit upwards, it's just about securing the connectors to the bottom and making them bottom out properly.

                                  Then to remove the heatsink it's usually enough with the 4 screws at the bottom, the ones with the spring, the thermal paste dries up and it may seem like it doesn't come out but by moving it little by little to the sides it ends up coming out well, that is, if it's a standard model, custom models may have more screws.

                                  If you find it difficult to remove the heatsink, I would take the whole graphics card to a gas station and blow compressed air into it, to blow out the dust from the fins,

                                  regards

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                                    @fjavi:

                                    But it may be what I tell you, sometimes the connection comes loose a little and the graphics card has a beep when it doesn't have the power connected, it often happens that over time and by moving the cables a little, some connection gives way a little, it seems connected but it stays a little upwards, it's just about securing the connectors to the bottom and making them bottom out properly.

                                    Then to remove the heatsink it's usually enough with the 4 screws at the bottom, the ones with a spring, the thermal paste dries up and maybe it seems like it doesn't come out but by moving it little by little to the sides it ends up coming out well, that is if it's a standard model, custom models may have more screws.

                                    If you find it difficult to remove the heatsink I would take the whole graphics card to a gas station and blow compressed air into it, to blow out the dust from the fins,

                                    regards

                                    Nothing, there's no way. My graphics card is this one: http://www3.pny.com/font-color999999GTX-560-Ti-1024MB-PCIefont-P2961C396.aspx

                                    I've removed all the screws and nothing. Not by rotating, not by shaking, not by throwing it against the wall (:P), it seems like a rock.

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                                      Learning is fun.
                                      The reason I advise against buying GPUs from certain manufacturers is not because of the performance or the output, it's simply because the components are not of such high quality (read: Miss Pepis' heatsinks stuck on with chewing gum and Meccano parts), and sometimes because of poorly applied designs.
                                      In my case, they almost always die from overheating, the most significant was that of a POV that had its heatsink "detached" after six months.
                                      Just because PNY handles Quadros does not mean that the rest of their production has the same quality.
                                      Don't waste your time with that graphics card, get rid of it, sell it while it still works, and buy one from a manufacturer that takes heat dissipation more into account.

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                                        I wouldn't dare to disassemble a graphic card like that, I can play everything even if I have to lower some detail, besides this PNY is the same as the EVGA or all the series models, it's very normal for the heatsink to get dirty, but it's not worth spending money with how expensive the cards are and having a decent one, I would at least disassemble it and clean it and I know that in the end it's not a low-quality card, here in this video we see the Zotac and EVGA 560 and they are similar to that PNY the EVGA is the same, they are series models and they are usually manufactured by a single manufacturer, whether it's Asus or any other and the quality is the same, I see less quality components in 660 even the 670 short than that 560ti. here they show how to disassemble it.



                                        The EVGA puts too much thermal paste, with putting a little and spreading it as thin as possible it's enough, I at least put little paste and spread it as well and as thin as possible, with a bag like the ones for garbage on a finger or a latex glove, I use my finger to spread it well and thin.
                                        greetings

                                        @recoco:

                                        Nothing, there's no way. My graphic card is this one: http://www3.pny.com/font-color999999GTX-560-Ti-1024MB-PCIefont-P2961C396.aspx

                                        I've removed all the screws and nothing. Not even rotating, shaking, or throwing it against the wall (:P), it seems like a rock.

                                        look at those videos I posted and I'm sure yours comes with the same screws, in the 470 and 480 if I remove the heatsink I only remove the 6 screws from the bottom of the GPU or processor but looking at the 560 Ti it seems to have many more, it all comes out as one piece, the EVGA is like yours even if it has a black PCB and yours is green, the Zotac is also the same except the casing is a bit different but it should be the same with the same screws.

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                                          @recoco:

                                          I've removed all the screws and nothing. Not even by rotating, shaking, or throwing it against the wall (:P), it seems like a rock.

                                          Thermal paste dries out over time and, if we also have serious temperature problems like in your case, it ends up cooking and consequently acquires more the consistency of cement than that of a putty. There is a big difference between dismantling a heatsink that has been running for months and a new one.
                                          I strongly advise against dismantling the heatsink and I maintain my stance from the previous message.
                                          However, if you are determined to do it, make sure not to remove a single screw, keep the equipment turned on for a good while and after turning it off, and with the card still hot, proceed to dismantle it.
                                          Once you have made sure that the only thing keeping the heatsink attached to the card is the thermal paste, try to detach it by exerting horizontal torsion, alternating directions, and finally, with a firm blow. Do not use tools to pry it open, nor try to insert blades between the heatsink and the processor to separate it, use only your hands.
                                          Needless to say, after cleaning it thoroughly, the most complicated part is putting it back together. Make sure, after tightening all the screws, that the board is not warped or bent, as it might not be in contact with the heatsink block at some point.
                                          Good luck. ?

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                                            I disagree with whoololon
                                            tin melts from 185 degrees the graph reaches 90 degrees, according to there are another 90 degrees to melt the tin but I wouldn't pull any electronic components with the tin at those temperatures (GPU and memories) that then a false contact can mean new graph :wall:

                                            I also don't think PNY is a bad brand

                                            disassembling a stock cooler has its work and requires time and patience (the first time I disassembled the GTX 280 it took me almost an hour to disassemble and reassemble it, after that I did it in 20 minutes)

                                            I repeat look at the videos that Fjavi has sent you and make sure you are not leaving any screws
                                            think that the thermal pads are adhesive and it is possible that this is what prevents you from being able to disassemble the cooler

                                            the thermal pads

                                            as you can see it has 10
                                            greetings and good luck

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