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      MaxLG @Franziskaner
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      @Franziskaner:

      hola yo con ( palabra que un dia de estos edito la firma ) mi equipo :
      M4N82 Deluxe
      AMD 965
      2 de 2Gigas a 800 DDR2
      GTX 660 gigabyte
      lo muevo en Full a 1920 1080
      por tanto con una 660 o 760 lo mueves a tope.

      lo cual no quiere decir que este de acuerdo con tu idea, es mas, estoy en descuerdo ( y no por lo de la cabeza ? )
      creo que seria mas recomendable que ahorraras y actualizaras el PC entero ¿por que? por que lo que tu quieres hacer lo intente yo y la verdad no suele resultar :eoh:
      antes tenia lo mismo que ahora excepto el micro y la grafica 9950 y una GTX280. la gráfica no es problema, pero el micro ….. lo máximo que soportaba mi placa era un 9xx y si cambiaba de placa no me servían ni las DDR2 ni el micro
      en resumen que es mejor que te pases a intel ?
      listado de micros soportados :
      AMD FX-8140 3200MHz 1MBx8 8MB Bulldozer 32nm B2 95W 5200 FDD
      AMD FX-8120 3100MHz 1MBx8 8MB Bulldozer 32nm B2 95W 5200 FDD
      AMD FX-8100 2800MHz 1MBx8 8MB Bulldozer 32nm B2 95W 5200 FDD
      AMD FX-6200 3800MHz 1MBx6 8MB Bulldozer 32nm B2 125W 5200 FDD
      AMD FX-6120 3500MHz 1MBx6 8MB Bulldozer 32nm B2 95W 5200 FDD
      AMD FX-6100 3300MHz 1MBx6 8MB Bulldozer 32nm B2 95W 5200 FDD
      AMD FX-4170 4200MHz 1MBx4 8MB Bulldozer 32nm B2 125W 5200 FDd
      AMD FX-4150 3900MHz 1MBx4 8MB Bulldozer 32nm B2 95W 5200 FDD
      AMD FX-4100 3600MHz 1MBx4 8MB Bulldozer 32nm B2 95W 5200 FDD
      saludos
      P.D mi opinión una 660 o una 760 y problema resuelto y si después quieres mas ahorras vendes placa micro y memos y pegas el salto a un I5

      Yo creo que su equipo es mas que suficiente? yo no lo cambiaria

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        luis032 @MaxLG
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        Thanks to both of you for responding so quickly…
        The option of changing the entire PC is not viable since I would see myself with the tower in one hand and the suitcase in the other...:dead:
        Could I, for the moment (it would be a couple of years), just change the graphics card??? I mean... would it be worth it to put a Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 in this computer??? With this graphics card could I manage for the moment or would it create the famous bottleneck??
        What I wouldn't like is to buy a card that is not enough for me or another one that is too much...

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          Franziskaner @luis032
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          I don't have a bottleneck and I have a micro a little better than yours, some worse memories and a motherboard I think worse, the graphics with a 660 you can run it at full speed if you want to spend more later
          regards

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            MaxLG @Franziskaner
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            I don't know about that, I've never experienced a bottleneck in my neck, and I don't know how bad a processor has to be for it to bottleneck with the graphics

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              Franziskaner @luis032
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              @luis032:

              Thanks to both of you for responding so quickly…
              The option of changing the entire PC is not viable since I would see myself with the tower in one hand and the suitcase in the other...:dead:
              Could I, for the moment (it would be a couple of years) just change the graphics card??? I mean... could I just put a Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 in this computer??? With this graphics card could I manage for the moment or would it cause the famous bottleneck??
              What I wouldn't like is to buy a card that is too weak or another that is too strong...

              Even though it would cause a bottleneck (which I doubt) your micro is a BE and I think you can easily get 3.9 out of it, which would solve the problem.
              This is a pain ;D
              gtx660 173
              Gigabyte GeForce GTX 660 OC 2GB GDDR5 GV-N660OC-2GD Graphics Card
              780 same assembler 212
              Gigabyte Radeon HD 7870 OC 2GB GDDR5 GV-R787OC-2GD Graphics Card
              comparison 7870 & 660
              AnandTech | Bench - GPU12
              As you can see, the 7870 is clearly superior except in BF ;D
              Best regards
              P.D. I mention the 660 bare, but if you can afford a TI or a 760, the better.

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                whoololon Veteranos HL @Franziskaner
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                Month 1: GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 760 WINDFORCE 3X
                Month 2: G.Skill 8GB DDR3 PC3-10666 Kit (2*4GB)
                Month 3: GIGABYTE GA-970A-DS3P
                Month 4: AMD FX-6350 (if you get it "inbox" it's almost "unbox and ready")
                …and if you let me, I would tell him with roses. ;D

                ...me lo dicen las voces...

                hlbm signature

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                  ferelxyx Veteranos HL @whoololon
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                  don't get scammed, put a good heatsink on the micro and an AMD 7850/7870 2GB DDR5 or Gigabyte GeForce GTX 660 OC 2GB GDDR5 and you don't need anything else. greetings
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                    amd125 Veteranos HL @ferelxyx
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                    We don't know what source you have, but I think that with a graphics change you should be able to enjoy BF4 without problems. Regarding the model, why buy it now? Wait for the game to come out and see what graphics are available within your budget. I think that starting from an Ati 7870 or an Nvidia 660 GTX you would already notice a good jump.

                    I would actually put a graphics card like the ATI 7950-7970 which are a bit more expensive but perform very well, and in the future I would change the whole team, but honestly I think you have a good team, I don't see the need to change except for the graphics and maybe in the future an expansion of RAM. The graphics to move a Full HD resolution better that they go over. Many graphics when they come out move most games in Full HD but they don't go over and in a short time they go just right. Better to go over with the GPU.

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                      luis032 @amd125
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                      Thank you so much to everyone…;D
                      I'm going to listen to all of you at once...
                      MaxLG...why do I need more ram??¿¿If I put 16gb of 1600 will it be better for gaming??
                      Franziskaner…¿¿Do you know any tutorial for super newbies so I can overclock the micro???...the tutorials I see seem to be in Chinese...:frio:...of the two cards...¿¿Would it be better for my team to get an ati??..since I'm not a fan-boy of any brand..I just want it to work perfectly for gaming...
                      whoololon…not even with a field of roses could I convince her to change the whole team..:nono:
                      ferelxyx…¿¿Which coolers do you recommend??...of course they should be good...beautiful and above all cheap...:troll:
                      amd125…The power supply is 700w..I think it's my best option now...wait and see if the prices drop in these 3 months...and I can get something better than my budget is around 190€ to 200€...in the meantime try to do a little oc to the team...and if something breaks I already have the excuse..;D
                      Seriously thank you so much to everyone...
                      Best regards.

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                        Franziskaner @luis032
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                        hello
                        4*2 =8 right? i highly doubt you need more ram

                        they go up almost by themselves;D
                        you'll find tons of stuff like this on the net

                        i'm not a fan of anything ( except myself;D )
                        i guess you say that because your M.B will be ready for ATI cross fire configurations, but unless you want to set up a second graphics card tomorrow you don't have to set up ATI
                        if you give me a choice between the 660 and 7870 ( and you give it to me ) i'll choose the 7870 to sell it;D;D
                        if i have to choose between the 660 and the 7870 ( to play BF ) i'll choose the 660
                        if it's true that BF4 will ask for the same as BF3 660;D
                        but as they tell you very well wait until BF4 comes out the 660 will continue to drop some price and the 760 as well.
                        for the heatsink you can use the excuse that it gets very hot and the micro can burn;D
                        an expensive one ( the most i would spend )
                        Thermalright HR-02 Macho Rev.A HR-02-MACHO-REV.A Fan/Cooler
                        a cheap one ( i have my doubts for doing OC, but better than the stock one )
                        Scythe Katana 4 SCKTN-4000 Fan/Cooler
                        regards

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                          luis032 @Franziskaner
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                          Correct, it's 8 gb at 1333... the motherboard supports 16gb at 1600... it would be the limit... but they cost more than 100€ and if I'm not going to notice much difference, I'll stick with the ones I have...
                          The heatsink excuse I see as perfect ;D
                          The one you put me (the expensive one) they say it's very big, bulky and a bit complicated to assemble...
                          ¿¿what about this one??
                          http://www.pccomponentes.com/thermaltake_contac_39_cpu_cooler.html
                          It's because it's a little smaller and has the blue leds (it looks cooler ;D)...

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                            ferelxyx Veteranos HL @luis032
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                            if you don't want to spend a lot of money or size on the one you put or this
                            Cooler Master Hyper 412S CPU Cooler

                            regards

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                              MaxLG @ferelxyx
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                              I'm not sure if your processor is unlocked, if it is, it's very easy.
                              If not, you would have to increase the FSB frequency, which means overclocking the entire board, and it's not very recommended, although I do it on my laptop.
                              To do it, you have to open the computer, and look near the processor, there should be a chip with some letters and numbers and a small logo of the brand (usually ICS)

                              You write down the numbers of the last row, download a program called Setfsb and choose your PLL (that's what this chip is called).
                              If you don't understand how Setfsb works, there are several tutorials on Google.
                              Above all, increase the frequency little by little

                              Best regards

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